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|Feb-06-11|| ||Lil Swine: lillienthal forged fischer's name.|
|May-05-11|| ||Penguincw: Happy Birthday to the oldest chess player I ever knew!|
|May-05-11|| ||eternaloptimist: wow what a long life...he almost made it to 100 years old!! From his cg profile: "He has the distinction of having met or played every World Chess Champion (with the exception of Steinitz) and was the world's oldest living grandmaster for quite some time". that had to be really enjoyable 4 him. he saw A LOT of chess theory & ideas evolve over that span of time which i'm sure he contributed many ideas to as well. he was truly a great player. i'm surprised that he has only 532 games in the cg database considering he played in tourneys 4 a REALLY long time.|
|May-05-11|| ||WhiteRook48: Happy birthday!!|
|May-06-11|| ||HeMateMe: In one of his last tweets, he said "I'm gonna show that young pup Korchnoi how this game is played!"|
|May-25-11|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <Andor Lilienthal>
Correct pronunciation of his name-
Audio/visual file: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuX9...
|Jan-13-12|| ||Petrosianic: <Lil Swine> <lillienthal forged fischer's name.>|
...and arranged to have Kirsan hand Fischer a briefcase full of money...
Wait a minute, run that by me again???
|May-03-12|| ||thomastonk: I have found the following game in a newspaper from September 1934, which is from the first round of a 4-player event hosted of the Amsterdamsche Schaakclub in occasion of Lilienthal's visit.|
The player with the white pieces is still unknown here, and the other participants were H Van Hartingsvelt and F Wackers.
[Event "4-Player-Event A.S.C"]
[White "Karper, J.G."]
[Black "Lilienthal, Andor"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 c5 5. e3 cxd4 6. exd4 Nc6 7. Nf3 d5 8. a3 Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Qc7 11. O-O Bd7 12. Re1 Ne7 13. Bd3 Rc8 14. Bd2 Ned5 15. Re5 h6 16. Qb3 Qb6 17. Qxb6 Nxb6 18. Ra5 Ra8 19. Ne5 O-O 20. Rb1 Rfd8 21. Nxd7 Nfxd7 22. c4 Nf6 23. Be3 Rac8 24. c5 Nbd7 25. Rxb7 Nxc5 26. dxc5 Rxd3 27. h3 Nd5 28. Raxa7 Nxe3 29. fxe3 Rxc5 1/2-1/2
White almost won!
|Sep-07-12|| ||Karpova: Milan, 1934 or 1933
1. Lilienthal 4.5
2. Karlin 4.0
3. Gandolfi 3.5
4. Napoli 2.0
5. Biava 1.0
6. Ferrantes 0.0
This tournament was played because of the three guests (Lilienthal from Hungary, Karlin from Sweden and Ferranets from Argentina) visiting Milan.
From page 29 of the 1934 'Neue Wiener Schachzeitung'
|May-05-13|| ||brankat: R.I.P. GM Lilienthal.|
|May-05-14|| ||offramp: His name is rather beautiful; it means Lily of the valley.|
|May-05-14|| ||Refused: Wouldn't it be <valley of lilies>?|
At least that's would sound like the natural translation to me.
Yours would be Tallilie.
|May-05-14|| ||offramp: < Refused:.. Yours would be Tallilie.>|
That is indeed the Latvian for Offramp.
|Aug-19-14|| ||Mr. V: Does anyone know if his autobiography and game collection was ever translated into the English language?|
|Oct-18-16|| ||whiteshark: Here's an obituary / a tribute by Mark Crowther
http://theweekinchess.com/chessnews... with many crosstables and annotated games|
|May-05-17|| ||carpetshark: I have his autobiography in Hungarian and it would be worth translating as it's full of interesting anecdotes and stories and analyses. I just never had the time. Perhaps some time in the future.|
|Feb-10-18|| ||morfishine: Great player. Only 602 games archived for him? Seems like a small amount|
|Feb-11-18|| ||whiteshark: <morfishine> There are 812 game of Andor Lilienthal in Megabase 2018.|
For example there are 331 games here until 1945 whereas Megabase has 412 of them.
I saw -on a quick review- games missing for
2 matches vs Tartakover in 1933, Barcelona 1934,
Trade Unions Ch 1936, Trade Unions Ch 1938 (only 2/21 here), Kuibyshev 1942 (4/11), a few Semi-Final Ch games.
It all mounts up...
|Feb-11-18|| ||morfishine: Thanks <whiteshark>! I've noticed the "modern" GM's have way more games recorded than the old greats. For example, Carlsen has 2,802 games, Kasparov 2,386 & Anand 3,287, while Botvinnik has a "mere" 1,184 games archived at <CG>|
|Feb-11-18|| ||whiteshark: <morfishine>
Lilienthal learned chess at the age of 15, and started tournament play at the age of 19 (1930).
1st: Compared with todays 'prodigies' that's as old as the hills.
From 1951 until 1960 he was also Tigran Petrosian's trainer
2nd: with reduced tournament play.
And 3rd: you won't find a flood of rapid and blitz games
|Feb-12-18|| ||Telemus: <whiteshark: Lilienthal learned chess at the age of 15> In his biography Lilienthal wrote that his brother introduced him to chess around 1924. Furthermore he gave 1926 as the year, when he gave already odds to his opponents.|
|Oct-21-18|| ||0ZeR0: For my first post, I must comment on the great Lilienthal... I have respect for his chess. It seems hard for me to describe; both universal and unique. There's nothing too heavy about it and in his best games, a model of efficiency and effectiveness emerges. As a result I find his games to be most instructive.|
|Nov-14-18|| ||Violin sonata: In the bio, its written that he <having met or played every World Chess Champion (with the exception of Steinitz) and was the world's oldest living grandmaster for quite some time.> I'm curious, has he ever played with world champions today? Besides that, I was rather surprised that he was almost 1 century-old (Only need one year old again) !!|
|Nov-14-18|| ||MissScarlett: <<having met or played every World Chess Champion (with the exception of Steinitz)>|
I think this part can safely be removed.
|Nov-14-18|| ||Olavi: <Telemus: <whiteshark: Lilienthal learned chess at the age of 15> <morfishine> > And in the 1996 New in Chess interview he gave a different story again, stating that he began when much younger. So it goes.|
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