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Andre Lilienthal

Number of games in database: 775
Years covered: 1929 to 1980
Last FIDE rating: 2385
Overall record: +263 -163 =349 (56.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database.

With the White pieces:
 Nimzo Indian (57) 
    E46 E24 E33 E53 E40
 King's Indian (45) 
    E80 E60 E70 E67 E81
 Orthodox Defense (44) 
    D51 D50 D61 D55 D59
 Queen's Gambit Declined (32) 
    D37 D30 D31 D38 D06
 Slav (30) 
    D19 D18 D11 D10 D13
 French Defense (25) 
    C12 C13 C07 C15 C18
With the Black pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (68) 
    C98 C77 C84 C86 C90
 French Defense (50) 
    C14 C01 C11 C13 C00
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (46) 
    C98 C90 C84 C86 C92
 Grunfeld (39) 
    D85 D97 D98 D95 D96
 King's Indian (35) 
    E67 E68 E60 E69 E90
 Nimzo Indian (27) 
    E38 E33 E46 E30 E53
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Lilienthal vs Capablanca, 1935 1-0
   Lilienthal vs Najdorf, 1948 1-0
   Lilienthal vs Bondarevsky, 1940 1-0
   Lilienthal vs Botvinnik, 1940 1-0
   Lilienthal vs Flohr, 1935 1/2-1/2
   Lilienthal vs Smyslov, 1941 1/2-1/2
   Koblents vs Lilienthal, 1945 0-1
   Botvinnik vs Lilienthal, 1941 0-1
   Lilienthal vs Tolush, 1947 1/2-1/2
   Lilienthal vs G Negyesy, 1931 1-0

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Ujpest (1934)
   Warsaw Olympiad (1935)
   Sitges (1934)
   USSR Championship (1940)
   Moscow Championship (1949)
   Hastings 1933/34 (1933)
   Trade Unions Championship (1938)
   Moscow Championship 1944/45 (1945)
   Stockholm Olympiad (1937)
   Moscow Championship (1942)
   Saltsjobaden Interzonal (1948)
   Ukrainian Championship (1957)
   USSR Championship (1945)
   USSR Championship (1948)
   Folkestone Olympiad (1933)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Moscow 1936 by JoseTigranTalFischer
   Moscow 1936 by igiene
   Moscow 1936 by suenteus po 147
   TITANS vs. GIANTS by laskereshevsky

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(born May-05-1911, died May-08-2010, 99 years old) Russia (federation/nationality Hungary)
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Andre Arnoldovich Lilienthal was born in Moscow to Hungarian parents. He was taken to Hungary at the age of two, but emigrated to the Soviet Union in 1935.

Awarded the GM title in 1950 he won the Moscow Championship 1939-40 and became (jointly with Igor Bondarevsky) USSR Champion in 1940 [rusbase-1] ahead of Vasily Smyslov, Paul Keres, Isaac Boleslavsky and Mikhail Botvinnik. He retired in 1976, returned to Hungary and remained well liked and respected.

He had the distinction of having met or played every World Chess Champion (with the exception of Steinitz) and was the world's oldest living grandmaster for quite some time.

Wikipedia article: Andor Lilienthal

Last updated: 2017-11-28 03:02:24

 page 1 of 31; games 1-25 of 775  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Lilienthal vs Kertesz 1-0311929BudapestA50 Queen's Pawn Game
2. Lilienthal vs M Romi 1-0311930Paris-chTA50 Queen's Pawn Game
3. M Romi vs Lilienthal  0-1331930ParisA45 Queen's Pawn Game
4. Lilienthal vs Tartakower 1-0421930ParisB29 Sicilian, Nimzovich-Rubinstein
5. J Mieses vs Lilienthal 1-0161930ParisC01 French, Exchange
6. T Regedzinski vs Lilienthal  1-0421930Stubnianske TepliceA15 English
7. Pirc vs Lilienthal  0-1601930Stubnianske TepliceE16 Queen's Indian
8. Lilienthal vs H Steiner  1-0211930Stubnianske TepliceA04 Reti Opening
9. Lilienthal vs D May 1-0321930Stubnianske TepliceC13 French
10. Lilienthal vs J Szekely 0-1361931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialD43 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
11. L Steiner vs Lilienthal  1-0441931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialC14 French, Classical
12. Lilienthal vs G Negyesy 1-0251931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialD41 Queen's Gambit Declined, Semi-Tarrasch
13. J Michlo vs Lilienthal 0-1771931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
14. Lilienthal vs S Gruber  1-0281931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
15. Maroczy vs Lilienthal  ½-½351931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialC46 Three Knights
16. Lilienthal vs R Pikler  1-0521931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
17. G Lovas vs Lilienthal  0-1321931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialA46 Queen's Pawn Game
18. Lilienthal vs E Steiner  ½-½361931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
19. K Havasi vs Lilienthal  1-0351931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialD51 Queen's Gambit Declined
20. Lilienthal vs M Szigeti  1-0251931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialD61 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox, Rubinstein Attack
21. L Wiesel vs Lilienthal  0-1231931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialA46 Queen's Pawn Game
22. Lilienthal vs P Rethy  1-0531931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialD02 Queen's Pawn Game
23. K Sterk vs Lilienthal  ½-½311931HUN-ch Szavay MemorialC01 French, Exchange
24. Lilienthal vs K Sterk  ½-½381932BudapestB80 Sicilian, Scheveningen
25. Lilienthal vs B Orvenyi  ½-½391932BudapestA33 English, Symmetrical
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  eternaloptimist: wow what a long life...he almost made it to 100 years old!! From his cg profile: "He has the distinction of having met or played every World Chess Champion (with the exception of Steinitz) and was the world's oldest living grandmaster for quite some time". that had to be really enjoyable 4 him. he saw A LOT of chess theory & ideas evolve over that span of time which i'm sure he contributed many ideas to as well. he was truly a great player. i'm surprised that he has only 532 games in the cg database considering he played in tourneys 4 a REALLY long time.
May-05-11  WhiteRook48: Happy birthday!!
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  HeMateMe: In one of his last tweets, he said "I'm gonna show that young pup Korchnoi how this game is played!"
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Andor Lilienthal>

Correct pronunciation of his name-

Audio/visual file:

Jan-13-12  Petrosianic: <Lil Swine> <lillienthal forged fischer's name.>

...and arranged to have Kirsan hand Fischer a briefcase full of money...

Wait a minute, run that by me again???

May-03-12  thomastonk: I have found the following game in a newspaper from September 1934, which is from the first round of a 4-player event hosted of the Amsterdamsche Schaakclub in occasion of Lilienthal's visit.

The player with the white pieces is still unknown here, and the other participants were H Van Hartingsvelt and F Wackers.

[Event "4-Player-Event A.S.C"]
[Site "Amsterdam"]
[Date "1934.08.27"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Karper, J.G."]
[Black "Lilienthal, Andor"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E38"]
[Annotator "thomastonk"]
[PlyCount "58"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 c5 5. e3 cxd4 6. exd4 Nc6 7. Nf3 d5 8. a3 Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Qc7 11. O-O Bd7 12. Re1 Ne7 13. Bd3 Rc8 14. Bd2 Ned5 15. Re5 h6 16. Qb3 Qb6 17. Qxb6 Nxb6 18. Ra5 Ra8 19. Ne5 O-O 20. Rb1 Rfd8 21. Nxd7 Nfxd7 22. c4 Nf6 23. Be3 Rac8 24. c5 Nbd7 25. Rxb7 Nxc5 26. dxc5 Rxd3 27. h3 Nd5 28. Raxa7 Nxe3 29. fxe3 Rxc5 1/2-1/2

White almost won!

Sep-07-12  Karpova: Milan, 1934 or 1933

1. Lilienthal 4.5
2. Karlin 4.0
3. Gandolfi 3.5
4. Napoli 2.0
5. Biava 1.0
6. Ferrantes 0.0

This tournament was played because of the three guests (Lilienthal from Hungary, Karlin from Sweden and Ferranets from Argentina) visiting Milan.

From page 29 of the 1934 'Neue Wiener Schachzeitung'

May-05-13  brankat: R.I.P. GM Lilienthal.
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  offramp: His name is rather beautiful; it means Lily of the valley.
May-05-14  Refused: Wouldn't it be <valley of lilies>?

At least that's would sound like the natural translation to me.

Yours would be Tallilie.

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  offramp: < Refused:.. Yours would be Tallilie.>

That is indeed the Latvian for Offramp.

Aug-19-14  Mr. V: Does anyone know if his autobiography and game collection was ever translated into the English language?
Oct-18-16  whiteshark: Here's an obituary / a tribute by Mark Crowther with many crosstables and annotated games
May-05-17  carpetshark: I have his autobiography in Hungarian and it would be worth translating as it's full of interesting anecdotes and stories and analyses. I just never had the time. Perhaps some time in the future.
Feb-10-18  morfishine: Great player. Only 602 games archived for him? Seems like a small amount
Feb-11-18  whiteshark: <morfishine> There are 812 game of Andor Lilienthal in Megabase 2018.

For example there are 331 games here until 1945 whereas Megabase has 412 of them.

I saw -on a quick review- games missing for

2 matches vs Tartakover in 1933, Barcelona 1934, Trade Unions Ch 1936, Trade Unions Ch 1938 (only 2/21 here), Kuibyshev 1942 (4/11), a few Semi-Final Ch games.

It all mounts up...

Feb-11-18  morfishine: Thanks <whiteshark>! I've noticed the "modern" GM's have way more games recorded than the old greats. For example, Carlsen has 2,802 games, Kasparov 2,386 & Anand 3,287, while Botvinnik has a "mere" 1,184 games archived at <CG>


Feb-11-18  whiteshark: <morfishine>

Lilienthal learned chess at the age of 15, and started tournament play at the age of 19 (1930).

1st: Compared with todays 'prodigies' that's as old as the hills.

From 1951 until 1960 he was also Tigran Petrosian's trainer

2nd: with reduced tournament play.

And 3rd: you won't find a flood of rapid and blitz games

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  Telemus: <whiteshark: Lilienthal learned chess at the age of 15> In his biography Lilienthal wrote that his brother introduced him to chess around 1924. Furthermore he gave 1926 as the year, when he gave already odds to his opponents.
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  0ZeR0: For my first post, I must comment on the great Lilienthal... I have respect for his chess. It seems hard for me to describe; both universal and unique. There's nothing too heavy about it and in his best games, a model of efficiency and effectiveness emerges. As a result I find his games to be most instructive.
Nov-14-18  Violin sonata: In the bio, its written that he <having met or played every World Chess Champion (with the exception of Steinitz) and was the world's oldest living grandmaster for quite some time.> I'm curious, has he ever played with world champions today? Besides that, I was rather surprised that he was almost 1 century-old (Only need one year old again) !!
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  MissScarlett: <<having met or played every World Chess Champion (with the exception of Steinitz)>

I think this part can safely be removed.

Nov-14-18  Olavi: <Telemus: <whiteshark: Lilienthal learned chess at the age of 15> <morfishine> > And in the 1996 New in Chess interview he gave a different story again, stating that he began when much younger. So it goes.
May-12-20  Paint My Dragon: Nice tribute to Lilienthal at the FIDE website to mark the anniversary of his birth (5th May)

Although I'm not quite sure why they say "99 years ..."? It's 109 years by my reckoning.

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  fredthebear: There are many good links provided for this biography. Here is a short story:

The older I get, the more I realize that many a stranger has some sort of common connection. He went to the same school, or she worked with my sister, or we have the same dentist, etc.

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