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May-01-22
 | | harrylime: There are Table tennis options for Boris in Wandsworth jail I've heard. Loike. |
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May-01-22
 | | MissScarlett: Now that we're out of the EU, I trust <Boom-Bust> will be deported upon his release. |
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May-01-22
| | harrylime: Boris has lived in London for over 8 years ..
Once he's served his time ...
He needs to be installed on Daytime TV here in Britshire .. He is an Honorary BRIT |
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May-01-22
 | | HeMateMe: no love for a fellow German in the family? England's ruling family, the Windsor's, intermarried into the royal German Hohenzollern family. In the 1930s some suspected the Windsors were secretly nazi lovers, fascists. In 1940 Hitler could have carpet bombed the beach at Dunkirk, a small, cramped area that held 350,000 British and French troops. The Germans controlled the ground and had absolute air supremacy. It would have been a turkey shoot. Instead, these troops were allowed to escape and later destroyed Germany in 1944. Any truth to the royal family as being secret German lovers? Who knows. the Windsors are very strange people, almost like a secret cult. Those who know the whole truth have never spoken up. |
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May-01-22
| | harrylime: Any subversive PRO Ruskies who think he should be deported should move to MOSCOW PRONTO. |
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May-01-22
| | harrylime: <<HeMateMe: no love for a fellow German in the family? England's ruling family, the Windsor's, intermarried into the royal German Hohenzollern family. In the 1930s some suspected the Windsors were secretly nazi lovers, fascists.
In 1940 Hitler could have carpet bombed the beach at Dunkirk, a small, cramped area that held 350,000 British and French troops. The Germans controlled the ground and had absolute air supremacy. It would have been a turkey shoot. Instead, these troops were allowed to escape and later destroyed Germany in 1944.Any truth to the royal family as being secret German lovers? Who knows. the Windsors are very strange people, almost like a secret cult. Those who know the whole truth have never spoken up.> > What's all this about ETHNIC CLEANSING and GENOCIDE going on in the USA in the 19th century ??? I'm refusing to believe it gotta say. Loike. |
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May-01-22
| | HeMateMe: the USA in the 19th century was WIDE OPEN. Anyone who wanted to come over was welcome. We weren't anti sematic, like the Russians, balkans countries and the English. |
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May-01-22
| | harrylime: <<HeMateMe: the USA in the 19th century was WIDE OPEN. Anyone who wanted to come over was welcome. We weren't anti sematic, like the Russians, balkans countries and the English.>> And The NATIVES are Reeeht behind you. Loike. |
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May-01-22
| | HeMateMe: only in England and France would Dreyfus have gotten a 20 year prison term for being Jewish. |
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May-01-22
| | harrylime: BOOM BOOM BORIS
Will be back ...
Let people judge him ...
I'm sure he's made a few mistakes .. as we ALL do... fooook the Tax Man and folk who judge him are no Angels ... Social Media loves a WITCH HUNT Boris will always have a SWEET SPOT in my heart .. HE WILL BE BACK |
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May-01-22
| | HeMateMe: You think BoJo is a Free Mason? what about Prince Charles? |
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May-01-22
| | harrylime:
<<HeMateMe: You think BoJo is a Free Mason? what about Prince Charles?>> Whadda boooooot
FOOOOOOOOOOK OFF lol lol lol |
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May-01-22
| | HeMateMe: I've always thought that Prince Charles might secretly be a necrophiliac. I have no proof, but I trust my 'gut' on these sorts of things. |
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| May-05-22 | | diceman: <The three-time Wimbledon champion was convicted earlier this month on four charges under the Insolvency Act and had faced a maximum sentence of seven years in prison.> How could he be convicted under the Insolvency Act? Acting like he was insolvent, was what he was doing. |
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| Nov-14-22 | | savagerules: Boris is out of jail and headed back to Germany. Maybe he studied chess while in the slammer. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar... |
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| Nov-15-22 | | unferth: <HeMateMe: In 1940 Hitler could have carpet bombed the beach at Dunkirk, a small, cramped area that held 350,000 British and French troops. The Germans controlled the ground and had absolute air supremacy. It would have been a turkey shoot. Instead, these troops were allowed to escape and later destroyed Germany in 1944.> pedantic footnote to this footnote: no, the Germans did not have air supremacy over Dunkirk, or even more than occasional air superiority. if they had, Goering's bluster that the Luftwaffe alone could destroy the Allied pocket would've proved correct. instead, they got in a multi-day knife fight with the RAF, which was able at great cost to provide the protection necessary for the evacuation to succeed. |
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Nov-15-22
 | | perfidious: One rather suspects that Hitler and Goering would not have missed the chance to deal what might well have been the death blow to Britain's chances of staying in the fight had they actually possessed such total control, as is claimed here by <HMM>. |
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Nov-15-22
 | | keypusher: < unferth: <HeMateMe: In 1940 Hitler could have carpet bombed the beach at Dunkirk, a small, cramped area that held 350,000 British and French troops. The Germans controlled the ground and had absolute air supremacy. It would have been a turkey shoot. Instead, these troops were allowed to escape and later destroyed Germany in 1944.>
pedantic footnote to this footnote: no, the Germans did not have air supremacy over Dunkirk, or even more than occasional air superiority. if they had, Goering's bluster that the Luftwaffe alone could destroy the Allied pocket would've proved correct. instead, they got in a multi-day knife fight with the RAF, which was able at great cost to provide the protection necessary for the evacuation to succeed.> Not really very pedantic, unferth.
Checking Horne's To Lose a Battle and Frieser's The Blitzkrieg legend, they seem to agree that the key event was the halt of the German panzers starting May 24, which gave the allies a few critical days to get their perimeter defenses organized and the evacuation fleet under way. And the key reason for the halt seems to have been concerns over an Allied counterattack on the part of the some of the German commanders, notably von Rundstedt and von Kluge. Hitler was also worried about this phantom threat. Goering's promise to win with the Luftwaffe was probably very attractive to him, because it allowed him to do what he wanted to do anyway. The Germans also wanted to husband their tanks for the final battle against France, still to come. They probably underestimated the British ability to bring troops away, but also knew that the British would have to leave all their equipment behind. Frieser, in Blitzkrieg Legend, has a very interesting suggestion -- on May 24 the German high command was in the process of taking von Rundstedt's panzer divisions away from him and giving them to another commander to finish the attack. To Hitler this would have seemed an attack on his own prerogatives as the supreme warlord. And so he countermanded the order and left von Rundstedt in charge. Von Rundstedt resumed the attack after consolidating his forces, but by then the Allies had consolidated too. Who knows?
But if the RAF hadn't been able to defend the skies, as unferth notes, it would not have mattered. |
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Nov-15-22
| | keypusher: It's kind of like saffuna's Whitey Herzog story -- "Why'd you pitch to that guy?" "Why didn't you tell me he was going to hit a home run?" The Germans who stopped the advance temporarily didn't think they were letting the British get away! They thought they were being prudent. |
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Nov-15-22
| | HeMateMe: German commanders on the ground in Dunkirk were told to hold up, because the Luftwaffe wanted the starring role in the kill. Hitler gave in to the vanity of Goring, not realizing that Herman Goring could not be trusted. The kind of grave battlefield error that Frederick the Great or Napoleon would not have made. Hitler was a politician, an orator, not a military mind. He got millions of Germans killed with imbecilic interfering in the plans of senior commanders like von Runstedt and Eric von Manstein. In his post WWII book Won Battles Lost Manstein describes how the German battle doctrine of fluidity in attack and defense had nearly bled the Russians to a collapse on the eastern front. Then, Hitler got involved and demanded that German armies dig in and hold indefensible positions, where they were ultimately surrounded and destroyed. |
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Nov-15-22
| | keypusher: <
In his post WWII book Won Battles Lost Manstein describes how the German battle doctrine of fluidity in attack and defense had nearly bled the Russians to a collapse on the eastern front. Then, Hitler got involved and demanded that German armies dig in and hold indefensible positions, where they were ultimately destroyed. >Don’t believe everything a German general tells you. After the war von Rundstedt also blamed the conveniently dead Hitler for halting the panzers at Dunkirk, thus exculpating himself. |
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| Nov-15-22 | | unferth: who knew that Jeremey Limn was such a magnet for WWII buffs? |
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Nov-15-22
| | HeMateMe: I would also question whether or not Goring even had a true green light to attack the beaches at Dunkirk. There were no prolonged aerial duels with British fighters during those several days, no waves of German planes. The Germans could have easily carpet bombed the area. Many historians felt that Hitler let the brits get off the beach so that there could later be a peace treaty and Hitler could then focus on Russia with all of his forces. If 150,000 brits were killed/wounded/taken prisoner there would never be a peace treaty, the British public would be outraged and would not allow it. In any case Germany had no means to actually house so many prisoners. In the eastern front push in 1941 the Germans took one million prisoners. They simply rolled up waves of barbed wire, put the Russians inside and let them starve to death. But this wouldn't be done to Brits or later Americans, different mentality towards fellow westerners. |
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| Nov-15-22 | | Cibator: A few comments.
Hitler's real war was in the East, that's where all his main objectives were. The Western front was pretty much an unwanted sideshow in his view. I think he always harboured hopes that Britain would come to some sort of terms and allow him to concentrate on dealing with what he perceived as the common enemy, the Soviets. And so, where British PoWs were concerned (who weren't regarded as "real" foe) the "decencies" were largely observed. Re Dunkirk: there are passages in Guy Gibson's book "Enemy Coast Ahead" which make it plain the RAF were not always in control there. He tells of meeting a traumatised soldier who'd just come off the beaches, whose first very angry question was "where was the RAF at Dunkirk?" A bit further on some of Gibson's comrades remark that it isn't safe to venture out alone in Air Force uniform, because "the brown jobs are beating up everything in blue they can see". |
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Nov-15-22
| | keypusher: <unferth: who knew that Jeremey Limn was such a magnet for WWII buffs?> To be strictly factual, this page belongs to Boom Boom Boris Becker. <In any case Germany had no means to actually house so many prisoners.> Just how many French soldiers do you suppose the Germans captured and housed? OK, I am going to stop now. |
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