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Dec-12-21
 | | beatgiant: <moronovich>
Thanks. Two questions:
(1) Your device has a key for the 'æ' character? (2) What did your preview look like? Did the 'æ' character appear, or <?> The question applies to both the preview box and the edit message box. |
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Dec-12-21
 | | moronovich: Hi <beatgiant> ! Thanks for asking.But I just did some random hitting here on the keyboard.Æ/æ is a special danish letter which consists of a+e making and æ-sound.Like in Abraham. Cheers. |
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Dec-12-21
 | | beatgiant: <moronovich>
And the preview? Did that look correct to you? |
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Dec-12-21
 | | Tabanus: Æ e i a æ å. |
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Dec-12-21
 | | beatgiant: <Tabanus>
Thanks. Can you report what the preview looked like? The two boxes, the preview box labeled "This is what your message will look like once posted" and the edit box labeled "You may edit your message below" |
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Dec-12-21
 | | Tabanus: The preview of my "Æ e i a æ å." ?? It looks fine to me. The "You may edit your message below" I can't find :) |
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Dec-12-21
 | | Tabanus: Oh I see. The preview if fine in both. |
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Dec-12-21
 | | Tabanus: ø æ å Ø Æ Å á ö, no problem. |
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Dec-12-21
 | | moronovich: Sorry,dont know what the preview means): |
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Dec-12-21
 | | Diademas: <moro> when you kibitz you get the option of <Prewiew Kibitz> and <Post Kibitz>.
If you choose the first you will get exactly that, a preview of how your post will look like. |
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Dec-13-21
 | | moronovich: Thanks <Diademas> ! I understand,now ;) <beatgiant> it seems to work. |
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Dec-13-21
 | | keypusher: Hi, <beatgiant>, hope you're well. The weird punctuation happens when I post from my iPhone. When I post from my Mac I have no issues. |
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Dec-13-21
 | | beatgiant: <keypusher>
That is very useful information. I have seen this type of content in some user game collections too, and this will save a lot of time while investigating it. I'll see what can be done about this. And yes, I'm well and hope you are too. |
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Dec-13-21
 | | diceman: <keypusher: Hi, <beatgiant>, hope you're well. The weird punctuation happens when I post from my iPhone. When I post from my Mac I have no issues.> I've seen this also, but not with a phone.
With a Windows 10 computer. |
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Dec-13-21
 | | beatgiant: <diceman>
Can you point to any example of such a kibitz? The timing is important, because we changed things within the last week. |
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Dec-13-21
 | | diceman: On rogoff, I was trying to type the word <healthcare> in a post. It looked something like this in the preview: <healt- hcare> with a dash and
space inserted.
I tried retyping it several times, and couldn't get it to work, so I just left it out. <healt- hcare>
Not sure that was the exact spot, but it was a dash and space. It's the first time I've seen something look different in preview. If I come across it again, I will post to see if it posts that way. |
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Dec-13-21
 | | beatgiant: <diceman>
Thanks.
Here's an attempt to reproduce that behavior:
asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf-
asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfadsfasdfasdf-
asdf
What I see in the preview is a hyphen after the first 48 characters, a second line with a hyphen after 48 characters, and then a space and a final 'asdf' I doubt it's a new thing caused by the recent change in the kibitzing previews, but I will investigate and see if there is any easy fix for that. |
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Dec-22-21
 | | beatgiant: <keypusher>,<OhioChessFan>
It looks like this iPhone issue might be affecting many kibitzers, so I'd like to get some more details. Can you (either of you) describe your keyboard layout settings? Are you able to customize it to different languages? Also, can you post here from your phone a test sentence with diacritical marks, as below? Hübner didn’t play …0—0 in a Réti and scored ½. He was not born in Mähren like Takács was. |
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Dec-22-21
 | | beatgiant: <keypusher>,<OhioChessFan>
My first guess is your phones are using a proprietary Mac character encoding like MacRoman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_O.... I'd need some more sample posts to make sure. Also can you check which version of MacOS your phone is running? |
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Dec-22-21
 | | OhioChessFan: As conversant as I am with the computer, I am as slow witted with the cell phone. I'll try to figure out what you're asking for here. It's an Android by the way. |
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Dec-23-21
 | | beatgiant: <OhioChessFan>
If it's an Android, your case is probably different than <keypusher>'s. Forget about the questions. Can you please try posting the test sentence from your phone? As below: Hübner played …0—0 in a Réti and scored ½. He wasn’t born in Mähren like Takács was. |
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Dec-23-21
 | | beatgiant: <OhioChessFan>
Actually I have an android phone too and I'll test it myself in the near future. I've always known we haven't yet done enough testing on the mobile version of the site. |
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Feb-07-22 | | login:
Reply to the Bistro posting (there it was already flooded with walls of most boring trivia/chitchat meanwhile so this is a better place) what I consider a rare proper statement of yours (as dev)
'When <login> demanded a fix for Western European inputs ..' Where did I demand anything? My posting right after the initial site update said CG (you were not even involved at that time, good observation) must have a close look especially at the 'kibitzing' as there were immediate encoding errors present. If there will not be an timely fix this would develop into a snowball because 100% members have the ability to kibitz. For testing purposes I added a data set where different errors could be examined. Months later in one single posting I took the freedom to consider a downtime of 2-3 days setting up the server from scratch my preferable solution (with reasons) and that (to this day) I don't understand what 'input fixes' even mean in practice. After that there was no posting towards the technical department. Answering a direct question by the owner with examples and correct time frame that does not require technical understanding is perfectly valid. So is your reply to it. '.. I will admit that I'm disappointed to see people who know hardly anything about the technical situation behind the site ..' At this point everyone is more or less disappointed let us skip that for now. Your next point is a much more interesting one is clearly in your favour. Technical aspects of things (access, working conditions, infrastructure) all combined I personally don't know any details and that is why there were never insinuations my criticism is based on that non existing knowledge either. 'The bottom line is, if you want it to get fixed faster, apply to join the team.' Not my line as 'time' is no issue (see the server setup posting, a resistant solution has priority). Never seeked a special role limiting my freedom hence my 'superpowers' that come with being a normal member operating within the guidelines of this site are chosen on purpose. My kink is operating on higher difficulty. |
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Feb-07-22 | | login:
Next point.
There is no need to ask a third party about you as crtisism of members operating withing the CG guidelines is never aimed to hurt feelings. When someone is exploiting a certain role (coming with considerable duties) on the other hand that is difficult to ignore. It gets really ugly when someone is pushing into a role that is not appropriate to the community well-being (like cancerous 'selfless' Caissa bashing). You are far from that. Susan Freeman the person is none of my business, still she uses (regrettably from early on) only one 'Susan Freeman' handle mixing up privat/job regularly. That leads to the strange behavior that almost everything that targets site issues will be addressed to the much more 'responsive' casual Susan persona. The same for stevemcd87 and you beatgiant. Everyone can take it 'personally' to their liking because all roles are shared by one handle. This invites speculation on your part towards my motives which is perfectly normal. To me there is an immanent flaw using one handle for different roles for more sensible discussions. Probably slowing things down on CG when several exchanges cannot pass the point of personal (not very productive) misconceptions so easily. Understand I post in beatgiant's forum but I need 'you both' to listen. Of my concern is 100% the dev only. Attention: Never must members be allowed posting under more than one handle (abuse is wide open) in this context, totally different back office-staff (here this should be mandatory). If you know a solution on how I can address beatgiant/dev without interfering with beatgiant/beatgiant in the future that would be most helpful. That is my bottom line.
Now it's late and a busy week lies ahead.
Delete after reading.
Unrelated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-j...
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Feb-07-22
 | | beatgiant: <login>
Everyone is always welcome to give opinions about things like priority of issues, whether it's worth it to shut down for days for repairs, etc. Those kind of user opinions are a major help for setting our priorities. I want to be absolutely clear here. If anyone posts opinions about the repairs they care about, I will always take it into account.But what's disappointing is to read vague remarks about taking "months" for something I delivered days after it came to my attention, assuming something is "easily fixable" although you can't have any idea what exactly caused that particular error, etc. Those reflect on my workmanship here. Yes, I haven't yet made everything absolutely perfect in a few months, but do you understand the scale of the tasks required? My remark about joining this team was aimed at another kibitzer, but truthfully, I have no role in recruitment here and I agree it was out of place for me to say that. To your point about identities, there is no separation between "beatgiant the repair worker fixing the damage on the site" and "beatgiant the community member." I'm doing these tasks because I'm so far the only one who has come forward with both the ability and the willingness. Could I be doing something lucrative instead of this? Hint: <jnpope> posted that he won't work here because <Susan> can't afford his services. |
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