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Member since Jun-05-04 · Last seen Mar-22-23
An American amateur.

Following are positions on many hot-button issues of the site.

Greatest player of all the 18th century? Philidor.

Who would have won a hypothetical Staunton-Steinitz matchup? Steinitz.

Was there an unwritten "win by two" clause in the Lasker-Janowski (1910) match? No.

Did Alekhine deliberately throw the 1935 title match, so as to get a rematch and thus be paid twice for playing Euwe? Hmmm....

Did Stalin order Flohr not to try hard to beat Botvinnik? No.

Who would have won a never-played Fischer-Gligoric match? Fischer.

Did Kenneth Rogoff write an update to "Eight Centuries of Financial Folly" called "Nine Centuries of Financial Folly"? No.

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   beatgiant has kibitzed 5566 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Mar-22-23 Winawer vs Englisch, 1883
beatgiant: <FSR> The interesting thing is after 49...Rbb7 50. axb6+ Rxb6 51. Rxc5 <Ra6> and surprisingly, Black gets enough counterplay for a draw. To prevent this, what if White first transfers his king to the queenside? Consider the following position: [DIAGRAM] and here 1. b4
   Mar-21-23 Walter Wittman
beatgiant: Any objection to merging this player with Walter Wittmann ? Olimpbase gives the second game here as Karpov-Wittmann with the latter spelled with 2 n's.
   Mar-20-23 L Day vs Francisco Silva, 1971
beatgiant: Olimpbase shows an F. Silva as 4th board for Mexico in this event:
   Mar-18-23 Petrosian vs Geller, 1953 (replies)
beatgiant: <Olavi> It's not entirely true that "Chigorin never played a short draw in his life." Gunsberg vs Chigorin, 1890 drawn in 13 moves. Chigorin vs S Rosenthal, 1883 drawn in 20 moves. He had a few others drawn in 21, 22 or 24 moves. It's easy to find those here with a search by
   Mar-15-23 Grace Co Estur vs Ayemou Akissi Victoire Sinchie, 2022
beatgiant: White is winning even in the final position where a draw was agreed. For example, 44. h3 Ke6 45. g4 hxg4 46. hxg4 Kd6 47. Kd4. White has the opposition and her king will outflank Black's king next move.
   Mar-14-23 Kenneth Rogoff (replies)
beatgiant: <keypusher> If a person is running several tech startups at once, ongoing payroll costs alone will easily go much above $250k. There is overhead in running 50 bank accounts; there is also cost in running one huge bank account and buying private deposit insurance for the ...
   Mar-14-23 Nepomniachtchi - Ding World Championship Match (2023) (replies)
beatgiant: <MissScarlett> I see the news that Kosteniuk has moved to Switzerland and switched her federation there, not that she "was deported." Were you speaking figuratively, or can you point to a real source for this claim?
   Mar-14-23 NN vs Staunton, 1857 (replies)
beatgiant: Shouldn't Staunton have won this? <20...Ne3> looks like a big improvement, and so does <22...Rd2>. On 20...Ne3 21. Rf2 Nxg2+ at least winning a lot of material. Or on 22...Rd2 23. Qxf5+ Kb8 24. Qg4 Qxc3 with unstoppable threats.
   Mar-14-23 Alekhine vs Capablanca, 1927 (replies)
beatgiant: <boz> You can track the match score here: Capablanca - Alekhine World Championship Match (1927) . This was the 12th game. Alekhine had just won the 11th game Capablanca vs Alekhine, 1927 , and before this game the match score stood at 2 wins each.
   Mar-13-23 Euwe vs Alekhine, 1935 (replies)
beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> 36...Ree8 37. Rg5 Re7? <38. Rf5> is an immediate win. 36...Ree8 37. Rg5 Rf7 does seem to hold out for the moment. Maybe now 38. Kg2 preparing for a queen trade and big endgame advantage for White. To paraphrase an old kibitzer, "Show us your drawing ...
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Feb-07-22  login:

Next point.

There is no need to ask a third party about you as crtisism of members operating withing the CG guidelines is never aimed to hurt feelings. When someone is exploiting a certain role (coming with considerable duties) on the other hand that is difficult to ignore. It gets really ugly when someone is pushing into a role that is not appropriate to the community well-being (like cancerous 'selfless' Caissa bashing). You are far from that.

Susan Freeman the person is none of my business, still she uses (regrettably from early on) only one 'Susan Freeman' handle mixing up privat/job regularly. That leads to the strange behavior that almost everything that targets site issues will be addressed to the much more 'responsive' casual Susan persona. The same for stevemcd87 and you beatgiant. Everyone can take it 'personally' to their liking because all roles are shared by one handle. This invites speculation on your part towards my motives which is perfectly normal. To me there is an immanent flaw using one handle for different roles for more sensible discussions. Probably slowing things down on CG when several exchanges cannot pass the point of personal (not very productive) misconceptions so easily. Understand I post in beatgiant's forum but I need 'you both' to listen. Of my concern is 100% the dev only.

Attention: Never must members be allowed posting under more than one handle (abuse is wide open) in this context, totally different back office-staff (here this should be mandatory).

If you know a solution on how I can address beatgiant/dev without interfering with beatgiant/beatgiant in the future that would be most helpful.

That is my bottom line.

Now it's late and a busy week lies ahead.

Delete after reading.


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  beatgiant: <login>
Everyone is always welcome to give opinions about things like priority of issues, whether it's worth it to shut down for days for repairs, etc. Those kind of user opinions are a major help for setting our priorities. I want to be absolutely clear here. If anyone posts opinions about the repairs they care about, I will always take it into account.

But what's disappointing is to read vague remarks about taking "months" for something I delivered days after it came to my attention, assuming something is "easily fixable" although you can't have any idea what exactly caused that particular error, etc. Those reflect on my workmanship here. Yes, I haven't yet made everything absolutely perfect in a few months, but do you understand the scale of the tasks required?

My remark about joining this team was aimed at another kibitzer, but truthfully, I have no role in recruitment here and I agree it was out of place for me to say that.

To your point about identities, there is no separation between "beatgiant the repair worker fixing the damage on the site" and "beatgiant the community member." I'm doing these tasks because I'm so far the only one who has come forward with both the ability and the willingness. Could I be doing something lucrative instead of this? Hint: <jnpope> posted that he won't work here because <Susan> can't afford his services.

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  beatgiant: <login>
Now the most important question you raised is: repair first the game collections, or the kibitzing from a mobile device?

Game collection errors do snowball. During the time I've been repairing them, already some collections were promoted to historical event pages. Before the repair, those almost always had glitches in the ½ characters in crosstables and score reports, often also in the player names, place names, punctuation marks etc.

Users also often clone collections from other users. I've repaired many of the same errors several times over because a collection and its clones all shared the error.

I've also seen it happen that a user deleted his broken collection before I had time to deploy the repair for it.

So there are a few reasons why game collection repairs have some urgency.

On the other side, yes there are still annoying errors in kibitzing, but it's a lot rarer than it was before the repairs last fall, and it doesn't look like it's making many contents illegible. There are still at this moment quite a few game collection contents that are in a much worse state.

All things considered, I think it makes sense to finish fixing the game collections first. But again, I welcome all opinions here and if you bring any other strong reasons or preferences around the matter, I'll take them into account.

Feb-08-22  login:

Please, remember without site premium search one has to put some time into finding specific postings in time. There were no current updates on the issue to my knowledge and I wasn't in the the mood to go through a 'fresh' database dump for the date. Still a (formally correct) offhand remark like 'months' was not my brightest hour, lesson learnt.

The separation of roles was hinted at the impossibility to address something professional here without allowing recipients a chance to fall back on a personal level with a much more complicated outcome for both. My short statement made you disappointed which in the end does not help keeping motivation high to remove certain persistent hickups best which is for the benefit of everyone. I shoot myself (∈ ∀) in the foot so it should have been formulated with more care.

'Do you understand the scale of the tasks required'

That's part of my critisism and yes, I do think so by abstraction. Patching might 'never' end - see the 'snowball' example (severity of exacerbating feedback) later on. Giving a considerably short downtime a shot (hit or miss) remains my preferred scenario. Being aware what you and more so stevemcd87 are dealing with here - the difficulty working for a most voluntile and free spinning backoffice, I fear this might not going to end well. To jnpope he (with the help of certain sponsors) is selling himself very well, not sure if that's backed by reality most of the time. The owner is loaded due to personal circumstances and money should not be of a great concern. The site is doing ok during special times.

One more example why 'patching/fixing' on CG to me does not solve a root issue:

Remember fixing these ugly exuberant bios of all these old, famous, more or less interesting chess personalities? The godsend were overly happy and that theme (thankfully) never returned on the daily drama channels. But it is not gone at all unfortunately, still in plain 'sight'.

Give me a random ID that was affected/posted in the Bistro back then and I look it up.

Feb-08-22  login:

Following an advice that repeating once is already one time too many future remarks will concentrate on encouraging team 'patching' - a most practical choice.


- Kibitzing (this steamship's fuel) is always my first priority as it generates most traffic, members staying on the site the longest all while it produces new content for different interests for free. At the same time 'it [a replacement character in kibitzing] doesn't look like it's making many contents illegible' is true at least for my reading experience. Corrupted input is/was my main concern, right now we are talking cosmetics.

- "Register now. It's quick, free, and anonymous. This will allow you to "kibitz" in our discussion forums, make game collections, and use other powerful features. " Game collections might be the most iconic CG feature ever, but I miss the love and willingness to make it more intuitively available for newcomers. Under normal circumstances not a priority at all, but snowballing within any system (living or dead) should be fought at all costs (nobody can predict where it breaks out). A bit undecided here. Gut feeling taking your observations more serious collections should be locked or stay untouched until a possible repairing schedule is created that is considerably faster and in effect able to catch up with possible new error production. Just a typical race scenario.

Boiling it down to something meaningful:

With a knife on my throat collections are my prio over kibitzing under this circumstances.

Again all this can go smoothly in the bin after reading, not much to add at this point.


Feb-09-22  Z free or die: At the risk of butting in (forum bombing?!?) on a thread I've really over just skimmed over...

From a past exchange, elsewhere, on analysis I've come to suspect that <beatgiant> is a pretty sharp card.

I also know, from reading various technical posts (and sometimes having to reread them), that the same can be said about <login>.

For whatever reason I just wanted to add my 2¢.

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<Z> I think the same. We are lucky that <beatgiant> agreed to join the Admin team eh...

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  jnpope: <beatgiant>, are there any plans to expand the Source and Event fields (and perhaps Site fields ) to a varchar(255) size?

It's nothing urgent, but it would be nice to not have to abbreviate or truncate certain sources or event names just to shoehorn them into the current allotted field size.

Just something more for you to add to the TODO list when you have the time. Again, nothing urgent, but a nice "to have" item.

Feb-12-22  Z free or die: As requested, a snippet reposted from the Bistro:

<PS- All PGN tags should go with varchar(255) to match the standard.>

Biographer Bistro (kibitz #23264)

Feb-13-22  Z free or die: <beat> might like to make a selection here:

Avatar Area

maybe. (The default is a little, er, generic)

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  beatgiant: Testing, 1, 2, 3, testing...
Jun-10-22  Z free or die: The beat is back!
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  beatgiant: Testing
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  Messiah: <beatgiant: Testing>

Test failed.

Jun-10-22  Z free or die: Sorry to be so obvious, but here ya go!


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  beatgiant: Testing... 看不出來嗎
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  beatgiant: Testing... What if I'm using punctuation
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  beatgiant: What if I’m using European punctuation
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  beatgiant: Testing... 看不出來嗎
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  beatgiant: I’m punctuating...
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  keypusher: Black’s 19th move and the continuation is featured in Aagaard’s Positional Play. After 19….d4


— Aagaard.

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  keypusher: looks good, beatgiant. feel free to delete these obviously.
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  keypusher: Incidentally I was going to post from my phone on the Karpov-Campos page and noticed the same problem as before. So I used my desktop instead.
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  keypusher: And happy Thanksgiving to you!
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  MissScarlett: How about <Abhi> instead? Re-submit, if agreeable.
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