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ksadler
Member since Feb-07-02 · Last seen Jul-09-19
My name is Kirk Sadler and I Am Canadian. I am webmaster of Alekhine Game Of The Week (http://www.geocities.com/alekhine_g...). My alias on ICC and FICS is kirksadler. I am currently playing through the game collections of Paul Morphy , Jose Raul Capablanca , Siegbert Tarrasch and Wilhelm Steinitz .
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   ksadler has kibitzed 608 times to chessgames   [less...]
   Jul-16-16 Movsesian vs Z Varga, 2005 (replies)
 
ksadler: This line I like because it is the battle of the passed pawns versus piece play for Black. Even though Black lost, he had many pieces swirling around White's King. Although this line may fail at the GM level it should be fine for most Alekhine players.
 
   Nov-04-08 G Mahia vs Larsen, 2008
 
ksadler: It is extremely interesting that Larsen opens his kingside as quickly as possible in every game. Perhaps he was forced to play in this and didn't want to? Doubtful that he'll get invited back. Or maybe some of his opponents needed GMs in the tournament to get norms or something?
 
   Nov-04-08 S Fowler vs Short, 2008
 
ksadler: TheaN is right...that is a gambit that is normally used after Black already moves his d-pawn (see Spielmann vs S Landau, 1933 for a great example!)
 
   Oct-22-08 J Corzo vs Capablanca, 1901 (replies)
 
ksadler: I don't understand 34. Nh3. Unless he was trying to blockade the pawn, but 34. Ng4 and then centralizing his knight is a better idea I think.
 
   Oct-19-08 B G Smith vs Shabalov, 2007 (replies)
 
ksadler: An unbelievable game! Great confidence by Shabalov to play that long without his queen and his king exposed!
 
   Jun-02-07 Leko vs Ivanchuk, 2007
 
ksadler: I agree Ulhumbrus...9. .. a5 seems a little premature. I prefer in this line to work in the middle as well with either 9. .. e5 or 9. .. f5.
 
   Jun-02-07 Alekhine's Defense, Modern (B04) (replies)
 
ksadler: What's the big deal? I'd recommend .. e6 here or even .. d5. The thing people have to remember about the fianchetto is that it is a long-term strategy. If the center is closed until about move 20 it is ok! An example is: Ljubojevic vs Alburt, 1990 (a very messy game for both sides).
 
   Jun-02-07 Alekhine's Defense (B02) (replies)
 
ksadler: <TheChessExpress> I have one annotated game of 1. e4 Nf6 2. Bc4 b5 here: http://www.geocities.com/alekhine_g...
 
   Mar-31-07 S Petrosian vs Degraeve, 2007
 
ksadler: I find this line difficult to play as Black. I prefer 9. .. e5 or 9. .. f5 to get some more counterplay as Black.
 
   Feb-11-07 Blackburne vs Steinitz, 1883 (replies)
 
ksadler: An incredible finish by Blackburne! Great game!
 
   Feb-11-07 Wilhelm Steinitz (replies)
   Feb-11-07 Steinitz vs A Mongredien, 1862 (replies)
   Feb-04-07 Steinitz vs Winawer, 1882 (replies)
   Feb-04-07 A Volokitin vs Ivanchuk, 2006 (replies)
   Dec-23-06 Santa Claus (replies)
   Jul-15-06 T Bryn vs P Royset, 2006
   Jun-02-06 Alekhine's Defense (B03) (replies)
   May-16-06 MTel Masters (2006) (replies)
   May-13-06 Chessgames Bookie chessforum (replies)
   Apr-23-06 Hikaru Nakamura (replies)
   Apr-16-06 S Bogner vs R Zelcic, 2006
   Apr-11-06 Fischer vs Mednis, 1957 (replies)
   Mar-27-06 Alekhine vs P S Leonhardt, 1910 (replies)
   Feb-12-06 French, Winawer, Advance (C19) (replies)
   Feb-12-06 AgentRgent chessforum (replies)
   Feb-12-06 G Neumann vs Steinitz, 1870 (replies)
   Oct-24-05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern (B05) (replies)
   Sep-03-05 R Nezhmetdinov vs V Sergievsky, 1966 (replies)
   Aug-09-05 Kramnik vs Polgar, 1997 (replies)
   Jul-13-05 Tarrasch vs Schlechter, 1911 (replies)
   Jul-13-05 F Hallebeek vs G Welling, 1988 (replies)
   Jul-05-05 M Thinius vs V Beim, 1993 (replies)
   Jun-30-05 Sergey Karjakin (replies)
   Jun-27-05 Schlechter vs Tarrasch, 1911 (replies)
   Jun-26-05 Pillsbury vs Chigorin, 1896 (replies)
   Jun-24-05 Charousek vs Englander, 1894 (replies)
   Jun-24-05 A Sokolov vs Kasparov, 1988 (replies)
   Jun-24-05 Garry Kasparov (replies)
   Jun-24-05 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav, Meran (D48) (replies)
   Jun-23-05 Sutovsky vs F Berkes, 2005 (replies)
   Jun-23-05 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
   Jun-23-05 Kasimdzhanov vs Accoona Toolbar, 2005 (replies)
   Jun-22-05 S Campbell vs G Pickler, 1967 (replies)
   Jun-17-05 Tarrasch vs Lasker, 1908 (replies)
   Jun-13-05 Tarrasch vs Janowski, 1907 (replies)
   Jun-13-05 Queen's Gambit Accepted (D20) (replies)
   Jun-10-05 Kosteniuk vs C P Gouw, 2000 (replies)
   Jun-09-05 Tarrasch vs Chigorin, 1893 (replies)
   Jun-07-05 Hydra (Computer) (replies)
   Jun-06-05 Marshall vs Tarrasch, 1905 (replies)
   Jun-05-05 Kasparov vs Sting, 2000 (replies)
   May-31-05 Taubenhaus vs Tarrasch, 1905 (replies)
   May-31-05 Tarrasch vs Marshall, 1905 (replies)
   May-29-05 Teichmann vs Tarrasch, 1905
   May-18-05 Topalov vs Anand, 2005 (replies)
   May-17-05 O Dementiev vs Dzindzichashvili, 1972 (replies)
   May-16-05 Schlechter vs Tarrasch, 1903 (replies)
   May-10-05 J Mason vs Tarrasch, 1903 (replies)
   May-01-05 Max Judd (replies)
   May-01-05 Ljubojevic vs N Padevsky, 1974 (replies)
   Apr-30-05 G Marco vs Tarrasch, 1898
   Apr-24-05 Tarrasch vs G Marco, 1898 (replies)
   Apr-24-05 Tarrasch vs Lipke, 1898 (replies)
   Apr-09-05 Steinitz vs Lasker, 1894 (replies)
   Apr-05-05 H Caro vs Tarrasch, 1898 (replies)
   Mar-27-05 Tarrasch vs Schiffers, 1896 (replies)
   Mar-18-05 Chigorin vs Tarrasch, 1896 (replies)
   Mar-16-05 Lasker vs W Napier, 1904 (replies)
   Mar-13-05 Chigorin vs Tarrasch, 1896 (replies)
   Mar-13-05 Steinitz vs W J Wilson, 1862 (replies)
   Mar-13-05 Tarrasch vs Janowski, 1896 (replies)
   Mar-12-05 Sicilian, Scheveningen, Classical (B85) (replies)
   Mar-12-05 Oll vs M Ulybin, 1989 (replies)
   Mar-12-05 Von Popiel vs Tarrasch, 1896 (replies)
   Mar-12-05 Steinitz vs Blackburne, 1862 (replies)
   Mar-05-05 Kasparov vs F Vallejo Pons, 2005 (replies)
   Feb-14-05 Winawer vs Tarrasch, 1896 (replies)
   Feb-14-05 Steinitz vs Tarrasch, 1895 (replies)
   Feb-01-05 Steinitz vs Blackburne, 1863 (replies)
   Jan-19-05 Chigorin vs Zukertort, 1883 (replies)
   Jan-18-05 Dubois vs Steinitz, 1862 (replies)
   Dec-28-04 Blackburne vs Tarrasch, 1894 (replies)
   Dec-19-04 Spielmann vs Tarrasch, 1912 (replies)
   Nov-29-04 Nakamura vs Kudrin, 2004 (replies)
   Oct-21-04 H R Jung vs O Nezirovic, 2004 (replies)
   Oct-11-04 Bob Baker vs J Langreck, 2004 (replies)
   Oct-07-04 Kramnik vs Leko, 2004 (replies)
   Aug-18-04 J Beutel vs Ponomariov, 2004 (replies)
   Jul-07-04 A Prokhorov vs V Turkin, 2001
   Jun-27-04 Adams vs Nakamura, 2004 (replies)
   May-18-04 Tarrasch vs Gunsberg, 1885 (replies)
   May-04-04 M Dzhumaev vs Mamedyarov, 2004 (replies)
   May-04-04 P Smirnov vs A Beletsky, 2004 (replies)
   Apr-18-04 Short vs Kasparov, 1993 (replies)
   Mar-12-04 A Skripchenko vs S Conquest, 2004
   Mar-12-04 Rozentalis vs A Minasian, 2004 (replies)
   Mar-12-04 Areshchenko vs A Minasian, 2004 (replies)
   Mar-12-04 S Belouadah vs S Fruteau, 2004
   Mar-12-04 B Le Corre vs U Schulze, 2004
   Feb-26-04 Shirov vs Radjabov, 2004 (replies)
   Feb-13-04 Henry Bird (replies)
   Jan-27-04 Rafael Vaganian (replies)
   Jan-26-04 D Pavasovic vs M Etmans, 2004 (replies)
   Jan-17-04 Albin vs Bird, 1895 (replies)
   Jan-13-04 Lilienthal vs Capablanca, 1935 (replies)
   Jan-09-04 Lutikov vs Korchnoi, 1951 (replies)
   Dec-10-03 Zukertort vs Steinitz, 1886 (replies)
   Dec-10-03 Steinitz vs Gunsberg, 1891 (replies)
   Dec-10-03 Zukertort vs Steinitz, 1886 (replies)
   Nov-28-03 V G Kostic vs T Luther, 2003
   Nov-28-03 Bromberger vs Rozentalis, 2003 (replies)
   Nov-28-03 Kasparov vs Palatnik, 1978 (replies)
   Nov-28-03 Tal vs Ljubojevic, 1987
   Nov-16-03 A Y Afinogenov vs Yurtaev, 1994 (replies)
   Nov-16-03 F Egido vs J Sanchez Almeyra, 1992 (replies)
   Nov-16-03 Suttles vs Lengyel, 1969
   Nov-15-03 S Solovjov vs V Shpagin, 2003 (replies)
   Nov-12-03 Suttles vs Fischer, 1970 (replies)
   Nov-06-03 Scandinavian (B01) (replies)
   Oct-31-03 O Gerasimchuk vs A Oglobilia, 1999
   Oct-21-03 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack (B77) (replies)
   Oct-19-03 Ivanchuk vs Kramnik, 1993 (replies)
   Oct-09-03 E Paehtz vs T Yilmaz, 2003 (replies)
   Oct-09-03 Sutovsky vs Carlsen, 2003 (replies)
   Sep-28-03 Jose Raul Capablanca (replies)
   Sep-19-03 XINIX vs Tao, 2001 (replies)
   Sep-19-03 Hirschfeld vs S Urusov, 1866 (replies)
   Sep-14-03 Bishop's Opening (C23) (replies)
   Sep-12-03 Morphy vs NN, 1858 (replies)
   Sep-12-03 Morphy vs NN, 1858 (replies)
   Sep-12-03 C Lutz vs Van Wely, 2001
   Sep-12-03 J Corzo vs Capablanca, 1913 (replies)
   Sep-12-03 Steinitz vs Zukertort, 1886 (replies)
   Sep-12-03 Zukertort vs Steinitz, 1886 (replies)
   Sep-10-03 Capablanca vs J Baca Arus, 1912 (replies)
   Aug-31-03 Capablanca vs C Jaffe, 1910 (replies)
   Aug-25-03 Morphy vs Paulsen, 1857 (replies)
   Aug-24-03 Spassky vs Fischer, 1972 (replies)
   Aug-24-03 Steinitz vs Zukertort, 1886 (replies)
   Aug-24-03 Morphy vs T Lichtenhein, 1857 (replies)
   Aug-23-03 Kasparov - Ponomariov World Championship Match (2003) (replies)
   Aug-21-03 Anatoly Karpov (replies)
   Aug-21-03 Morphy vs Anderssen, 1858 (replies)
   Aug-21-03 Capablanca vs Marshall, 1910 (replies)
   Aug-21-03 J Schulten vs Morphy, 1857 (replies)
   Aug-21-03 Caro-Kann, Panov-Botvinnik Attack (B14) (replies)
   Aug-20-03 Dutch (A80) (replies)
   Aug-20-03 Bareev vs Grischuk, 2001 (replies)
   Aug-19-03 Kasparov vs Short, 2002 (replies)
   Aug-19-03 Vienna (C25) (replies)
   Aug-14-03 Fischer vs Fine, 1963 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 R Oomen vs W van Vugt, 1989 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 R Haataja vs K Eloranta, 1988
   Aug-13-03 Spassky vs Najdorf, 1962 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Gelfand vs Leko, 2003
   Aug-13-03 Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Kasparov vs P Nikolic, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Kramnik vs Topalov, 1998 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Svidler vs Kasparov, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Anand vs Ivanchuk, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Timman vs Piket, 2000 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Morozevich vs A Aleksandrov, 2000 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Piket vs Van Wely, 1994
   Aug-13-03 Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Kasparov vs Hracek, 1996 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Kasparov vs Deep Blue, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Shirov vs Polgar, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Seirawan vs A Fishbein, 2002
   Aug-13-03 de Firmian vs Yermolinsky, 2002 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Seirawan vs I Ivanov, 2002 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 M Mulyar vs Kudrin, 2002
   Aug-13-03 Shabalov vs A Fishbein, 2002
   Aug-13-03 L Christiansen vs I Foygel, 2002 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 A Ambartsoumian vs J Shahade, 2002 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 L Christiansen vs Yermolinsky, 2002
   Aug-13-03 Kasparov vs Deep Blue, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Korchnoi vs Kasparov, 2000 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Kasparov vs Deep Blue, 1997 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Bird's Opening (A02) (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Lasker vs Steinitz, 1894 (replies)
   Aug-13-03 Shirov vs Leko, 1991 (replies)
   Aug-12-03 Kramnik vs Bologan, 2003 (replies)
   Aug-12-03 Karpov vs Vaganian, 1973 (replies)
   Aug-12-03 Van der Sterren vs Van Wely, 1993
   Aug-12-03 Pillsbury vs E Chatard, 1900 (replies)
   Aug-07-03 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox Defense, Classical, 13.de (D69) (replies)
   Jul-31-03 Shirov vs Motylev, 2001 (replies)
   Jul-30-03 Polgar vs F Berkes, 2003 (replies)
   Jul-30-03 Sadler vs Dreev, 1997 (replies)
   Jul-29-03 J Nogueiras vs M Gongora Reyes, 2001 (replies)
   Jul-28-03 Gufeld vs V Liberzon, 1969 (replies)
   Jul-28-03 Szabo vs P H Clarke, 1961 (replies)
   Jul-28-03 E van den Doel vs Stellwagen, 2003 (replies)
   Jul-28-03 Kosteniuk vs Karjakin, 2003 (replies)
   Jul-24-03 Steinitz vs Bird, 1862 (replies)
   Jul-24-03 Steinitz vs Lang, 1860 (replies)
   Jul-23-03 NN vs G Geshev, 1935 (replies)
   Jul-20-03 D Baretic vs B Cafferty, 1962 (replies)
   Jul-10-03 Sicilian, Nimzovich-Rubinstein (B29) (replies)
   Jul-10-03 Sicilian (B30) (replies)
   Jul-08-03 Capablanca vs Alekhine, 1913 (replies)
   Jul-07-03 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav (D10) (replies)
   Jul-07-03 Tal vs R Byrne, 1976 (replies)
   Jul-05-03 Rubinstein vs Capablanca, 1911 (replies)
   Jul-05-03 Short vs Ljubojevic, 1988 (replies)
   Jul-05-03 Capablanca vs Spielmann, 1911 (replies)
   Jul-04-03 Vasiukov vs Van Wely, 2002 (replies)
   Jul-04-03 Polgar vs Shirov, 1994 (replies)
   Jul-04-03 Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999 (replies)
   Jun-27-03 Capablanca vs Marshall, 1909 (replies)
   Jun-27-03 Morphy vs A Meek, 1855 (replies)
   Jun-26-03 Najdorf vs Gligoric, 1953 (replies)
   Jun-19-03 Charousek vs K Schneider, 1891 (replies)
   Jun-18-03 Francois Philidor (replies)
   Jun-17-03 G MacDonnell vs Bird, 1874 (replies)
   Jun-13-03 Paul Morphy (replies)
   Jun-12-03 Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 (replies)
   Jun-11-03 Leko vs Adams, 2001 (replies)
   Jun-11-03 Radjabov vs Anand, 2002 (replies)
   Jun-11-03 Spassky vs Fischer, 1992 (replies)
   Jun-09-03 Mikhail Tal (replies)
   Jun-09-03 Spassky vs Fischer, 1992 (replies)
   Jun-08-03 Alexander Kotov (replies)
   Jun-07-03 Capablanca vs J Corzo, 1901 (replies)
   Jun-06-03 Peter Leko (replies)
   Jun-05-03 I A Horowitz vs M Pavey, 1951 (replies)
   Jun-04-03 Macieja vs Karpov, 2003 (replies)
   Jun-04-03 G A Thomas vs Fine, 1937
   Jun-04-03 Letelier vs Fischer, 1960 (replies)
   Jun-04-03 M Horvath vs E Unger, 2001 (replies)
   Jun-03-03 Spassky vs A Kakageldyev, 1975
   Jun-03-03 Loewenthal vs Morphy, 1858 (replies)
   Jun-02-03 Luer vs Rattman, 1922 (replies)
   Jun-02-03 Botvinnik vs N Timofeev, 1924 (replies)
   May-30-03 Szabo vs G Kluger, 1952
   May-29-03 Fischer vs Spassky, 1972 (replies)
   May-29-03 Fischer vs Reshevsky, 1958 (replies)
   May-28-03 A Ozsvath vs K Honfi, 1953 (replies)
   May-27-03 D Gurevich vs C Hansen, 1986 (replies)
   May-26-03 Pelletier vs A Obodchuk, 2003 (replies)
   May-06-03 McDonnell vs La Bourdonnais, 1834 (replies)
   May-05-03 Kasparov vs Yermolinsky, 1975 (replies)
   May-02-03 Macieja vs Karpov, 2003 (replies)
   Apr-29-03 Fischer vs Spassky, 1992 (replies)
   Apr-22-03 Spassky vs Fischer, 1960 (replies)
   Apr-20-03 F Duz-Khotimirsky vs Schlechter, 1911 (replies)
   Apr-19-03 Euwe vs Bogoljubov, 1941 (replies)
   Apr-19-03 Queen's Gambit Declined (D37) (replies)
   Apr-17-03 Blackburne vs J B Payne, 1862 (replies)
   Apr-16-03 R Brien vs S Boden, 1851 (replies)
   Apr-09-03 Khalifman vs Dreev, 2003 (replies)
   Apr-07-03 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4 (B21) (replies)
   Apr-03-03 J Sharif Mohammad vs S Polgar, 1990
   Apr-02-03 Polugaevsky vs E Torre, 1981 (replies)
   Apr-02-03 Botvinnik vs Larsen, 1965 (replies)
   Mar-29-03 Kasparov vs F Vallejo Pons, 2003 (replies)
   Mar-29-03 Ljubojevic vs Topalov, 2003 (replies)
   Mar-27-03 Sasikiran vs I Krush, 2002 (replies)
   Mar-26-03 Kramnik vs Topalov, 2001 (replies)
   Mar-20-03 Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2003 (replies)
   Mar-20-03 Shirov vs J Lapinski, 1990 (replies)
   Mar-20-03 I Polgar vs Bronstein, 1988 (replies)
   Mar-19-03 J Thomason vs Fischer, 1955 (replies)
   Mar-18-03 Alekhine vs Tartakower, 1932 (replies)
   Mar-11-03 A Kapengut vs J Murey, 1974 (replies)
   Mar-09-03 Sicilian (B40) (replies)
   Mar-07-03 Grischuk vs Ponomariov, 2000 (replies)
   Feb-27-03 Max Euwe (replies)
   Feb-27-03 J Hector vs H Jonkman, 2003 (replies)
   Feb-26-03 Boris Spassky (replies)
   Feb-24-03 Kasparov vs Radjabov, 2003 (replies)
   Feb-22-03 Caro-Kann Defense (B12) (replies)
   Feb-22-03 Queen's Gambit Declined (D06) (replies)
   Feb-22-03 French, Winawer (C18) (replies)
   Feb-21-03 Nimzowitsch vs Alekhine, 1926 (replies)
   Feb-20-03 King's Indian, Orthodox, 7...Nbd7, 8.Re1 (E95)
   Feb-19-03 Geller vs Korchnoi, 1960 (replies)
   Feb-14-03 Spassky vs Fischer, 1972 (replies)
   Feb-14-03 Short vs Timman, 1991 (replies)
   Feb-13-03 E Kovalevskaya vs P Bjarnehag, 2002
   Feb-07-03 A Artidiello vs D Freeman, 2001 (replies)
   Jan-24-03 Bronstein vs Ljubojevic, 1973 (replies)
   Jan-23-03 Adams vs S Agdestein, 1994 (replies)
   Jan-23-03 Benoni, Four Pawns Attack (A68) (replies)
   Jan-19-03 Kasparov vs Gicin, 1977 (replies)
   Jan-19-03 Zoltan Varga (replies)
   Jan-19-03 Kramnik vs Smirin, 2002 (replies)
   Jan-16-03 W J Donaldson vs Stripunsky, 2003 (replies)
   Jan-10-03 Z Ilincic vs I Marinkovic, 1989 (replies)
   Dec-14-02 Benoni, Taimanov Variation (A67) (replies)
   Dec-14-02 V Vukovic vs Spielmann, 1922 (replies)
   Dec-12-02 Marshall vs A Beauchemin, 1898 (replies)
   Dec-12-02 B Vladimirov vs Spassky, 1953 (replies)
   Dec-11-02 Tal vs Spassky, 1954 (replies)
   Nov-25-02 J Mortimer vs Winawer, 1883 (replies)
   Nov-25-02 English, Caro-Kann Defensive System (A11) (replies)
   Nov-23-02 Reti Opening (A06) (replies)
   Nov-23-02 Polgar vs Short, 2002
   Nov-13-02 I Nataf vs A Hauchard, 2001 (replies)
   Nov-12-02 Tal vs Larsen, 1965 (replies)
   Nov-12-02 Philidor Defense (C41) (replies)
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