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Jun-15-20
 | | saffuna: I believe Reshevsky is a player, definitely a genius, who was considered lazy, and lost a number of games due to lack of preparation. I have read that Casablanca did not work hard, was just a natural genius. Not sure. Maybe he was the exception. |
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Jun-15-20
 | | moronovich: <I have read that Casablanca did not work hard, was just a natural genius. Not sure. Maybe he was the exception.> Capas wife said he worked hard.
When she was interviewed by Sosonko. |
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Jun-15-20
 | | saffuna: Thanks. |
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Jun-15-20 | | JimNorCal: No one cares what I think about it, but I'm gonna tell you anyway :) :)
"That's the kind of self-congratulating thing immensely talented people say." It's a self-deprecating statement like "aw shucks, I ain't no genius". But actually they DO have talent, they're just being modest. And indeed, OCFs mule can practice all it wants. I won't win the Derby. It's also true that talented people work hard at their craft and don't just coast along depending on innate ability. |
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Sep-17-20
 | | OhioChessFan: <OhioChessFan: That's the kind of self-congratulating thing immensely talented people say.> <Fusilli: Interesting... I think this has two possible interpretations:> It was neither of those. I think people who are massively talented have a strong tendency to not realize (or possibly admit) how innately gifted they are. Sure, they work hard, as any chess player has to, but it's not the work that makes them so good. It's their raw talent. No talent plus hard work makes a decent chess player, but not elite. I daresay there are tons of chess players who work as hard as the elite GM's and never come close to that level. If a person is lucky, they discover they have innate talent in some field they enjoy. I am unimpressed with people who won't acknowledge that they were simply born with a gift that others would kill to have. |
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Sep-17-20
 | | perfidious: There was a virtuoso musician who commented once to the effect: < I practise twelve hours a day and they call me a genius.> |
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Sep-18-20
 | | moronovich: <I practise twelve hours a day and they call me a genius.>> Well,that is the appproach that always has appealed to Joe the Plummer. Even Mozart worked very very hard.
I like Kasparov who emphazied that hard work is also a talent.
He worked immensely hard himself.
All that being said:There are more intelligent ways of "working hard" than others. |
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Sep-18-20
 | | Fusilli: <OCF> Ah, ok, that makes sense to me. There is the additional point that hard work has to be well organized and structured. I think I had some baseline talent, but I was rather lazy to study chess AND my study was chaotic (as in, often, pick up magazine and study random article, or grab book and look at random chapter). My coach provided some structure, but I got little coaching. I saw a research article, long ago, where the authors had used fMRI to see which parts of the brain lit up when GMs and club players looked at given positions. Turns out they used different parts of the brain. That may have not been the only thing that the researchers did, but I remember the conclusion that, in order to reach GM level, people did in fact need to be born with certain kind of brain setup, and if you lacked that, no amount of work would take you there. So, apparently chess talent has a direct brain anatomy translation. (A little discouraging, I suppose... No wonder that study did not get much traction in the world of chess as it may have in the world of neurology.) I'll try to find the study and post the link. |
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Sep-18-20
 | | Fusilli: <saffuna: ... I have read that Casablanca did not work hard> No one worked hard in Casablanca! They were all partying and gambling at Rick's cafe all the time. I'd be shocked, SHOCKED to see anyone working hard there. :D |
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Sep-18-20
 | | saffuna: I plead spellcheck! |
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Sep-18-20
 | | perfidious: <saffuna>, that excuse is for suckers and losers. |
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Sep-18-20
 | | chancho: <No one worked hard in Casablanca! They were all partying and gambling at Rick's cafe all the time. I'd be shocked, SHOCKED to see anyone working hard there.> 🤣😂😂🤣 |
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Sep-18-20
 | | moronovich: <saffuna: I plead spellcheck!> "Don´t Bogart that joint..." ;) |
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Dec-30-20 | | Messiah: About ten years ago I had the opportunity to play with GM Portisch on a simul. I had an unusually long time to prepare, some 4-5 days, so I memorized lots of things, one of them was a sideline of a Benoni on the Black side, that featured an idea of a not always perfectly sound exchange sacrifice on e8 in some variations, to press the e file forever. This particular sideline, that did not exist in GM practice, appeared on the board, and I boldly sac'd the exchange against the legend and went full blast attacking after he accepted it. He neutralized my attempts almost without thinking. Like it was trivial. Like he played from the book. Is it possible that he knew the variation? I will never ever ever forget that day. I was frightened, demoralized and destroyed - how could anyone defend with this precision, without thinking? By then, I already lost games against GM Gurevich and GM Nikolaidis, but never felt so helpless. Sadly, the game score is almost certainly lost. There is one city, not so extremely far from here, where I might find it - as soon as the COVID enables, I will go there trying my luck. |
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Apr-01-21 | | thegoodanarchist: <Messiah: About ten years ago I had the opportunity to play with GM Portisch on a simul... Sadly, the game score is almost certainly lost. There is one city, not so extremely far from here, where I might find it - as soon as the COVID enables, I will go there trying my luck.> For the sake of chess, let us all hope you find the game score! |
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Apr-01-21
 | | moronovich: We can hardly wait. |
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Dec-14-21 | | stridergene: My personal choice of GOAT of Hungarian Chess is Lajos Portisch. Imagine being a candidate through interzonal 8 times not including the interzonals in which he narrowly missed the last qualifying spot for the candidates. He was the top board for the Hungarian team that upset Soviet Union in the 1978 Olympiad. He defeated Vasily Smyslov, Mikhail Tal, Tigran Petrosian, Boris Spassky, Anatoly Karpov. He has one of the most number of appearances in Chess Olympiads. He was among the elites from early 60s to late 80s. I am pretty sure many will say Judit Polgar or Peter Leko as their GOAT of Hungary's chess. Its your opinion. |
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Dec-27-21 | | Abdooss01: <About ten years ago I had the opportunity to play with GM Portisch on a simul. I had an unusually long time to prepare, some 4-5 days, so I memorized lots of things, one of them was a sideline of a Benoni on the Black side, that featured an idea of a not always perfectly sound exchange sacrifice on e8 in some variations, to press the e file forever. This particular sideline, that did not exist in GM practice, appeared on the board, and I boldly sac'd the exchange against the legend and went full blast attacking after he accepted it.
He neutralized my attempts almost without thinking. Like it was trivial. Like he played from the book. Is it possible that he knew the variation? > Messiah, GMs spent more time on chess. So YES, most probably they knew that variation. I have a young friend, he can beat GMs, but only in Rapid and Simul. But I like your optimistic attitude - GMs are human too, once in a while they will and can lose tou us mere mortals! |
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Dec-27-21
 | | perfidious: Well do I know that feeling: my only wins vs GMs were in blitz play. At slower tempo, I usually got done over, vanishing without trace. |
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Apr-04-22 | | diagonal: Not Player of the day, but Birthday kid:
Congratulations to Lajos Portisch on his 85th anniversary, a beautiful day, good health and happiness for you! Portisch has beaten six World Champions in classical chess: Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky, Karpov, and Anand, virtually all top stars of his prime time: Korchnoi, Keres, Geller, Stein, Polugaevsky, Beliavsky, Andersson, Larsen, Miles, Nunn, Short, Timman, Hübner, Unzicker, Uhlmann, Mecking, Najdorf, Torre, Reshevsky, Browne, Seirawan, Ljubojevic, Gligoric, Ivkov, Pachman, Hort, Szabo, etc. Highest ranking of GM Lajos Portisch: =2nd of the world, together with Korchnoi, behind Karpov in 1981 (January-June list) at Elo 2650. Best nominal rating: Elo 2655 in 1980 (January-December list), then as 4th of the world. Super solid Portisch played in twelve consecutive (!) Interzonal cycles between 1962 and 1993, qualifying eight times (!) for the World Championship Candidate’s, namely at IZT 1964, 1967, 1973, 1976, 1979, 1982, 1985, 1987; missing the qualification for the Candidate’s only in the Interzonals 1962, 1970, 1990 (swiss system), 1993 (swiss system). He co-won two Interzonals. Impressive Palmares of international invitation tournament triumphs: 4 wins at Wijk aan Zee and former Beverwijk (Hoogovens), 3 wins at IBM Amsterdam, 3 wins at Bosna Sarajevo, 2 wins at Hastings Congress, winning at Tilburg, Las Palmas, Skopje/Ohrid, San Antonio, Monte Carlo, Vidmar Memorial twice, Reggio Emilia twice, and several more, plus nine times National Hungarian Champion. A member of twenty Hungarian Olympiad teams between 1956 and 2000 (board one 1962-88) where he won all in all eleven Olympiad medals (team and individual points or performance). In total, he played 260 Olympic Games. Of course, Lajos Portisch also played on board one for his team (together with Ribli, Sax, Adorjan, Csom, and Vadasz) to win the Gold medal for Hungary at the Chess Olympiad in Buenos Aires 1978. A true Chess Ambassador: http://www.chessdiagonals.ch/402840... |
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Apr-14-22 | | Albertan: Lajos Portisch celebrates his 85th birthday:
https://www.fide.com/news/1680 |
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Jun-12-22 | | devere: < wordfunph: "Talent is 99% diligence."
- GM Lajos Portisch>
Pithy but mistaken. If you were not born with talent all the diligence in the world won't develop it. |
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Feb-10-23
 | | Fusilli: <Abdooss01> Wonderful anecdote. Thanks for sharing it. <Albertan> Great article, with nice photos too. But I like the photo of this page best. How is he doing healthwise? He looks very healthy. I bet Portisch or F. Olafsson will beat Yuri Averbakh's record to become the longest-lived GM. But of course we'll have to wait a while to know. |
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Apr-08-23 | | Messiah: Forgot to post this: https://www.fide.com/news/1680 Victory!
-- CG Liberation Front -- |
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Apr-08-23 | | Messiah: <Messiah: Forgot to post this: https://www.fide.com/news/1680 Victory!
-- CG Liberation Front -->
I'm a complete idiot, this entry is from 2022. Whatever. Victory!
-- CG Liberation Front -- |
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