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| Mar-10-21 | | Whitehat1963: To me, Tal is a “loud”player, that is, his sacrifices and attacks often make audiences gasp in disbelief as he bangs his opponent over the head with a hammer or goes straight for the direct frontal chokehold. Petrosian, by contrast, is a quiet player. His moves are usually more obscure, subtle, and often make the audience shake their heads and ponder quietly. All the while, he is applying a variety of limb-breaking leg locks that may not always look exciting to the audience but are just as effective as one of Tal’s punches in the face. I’m interested in seeing games in which the roles are reversed, when a Tal or Keres uses very quiet and subtle moves to gradually suffocate his opponent, or a Petrosian or Smyslov delivers a roundhouse kick in the face and finishes his opponent with a couple of loud sacrifices. Can someone point out some examples? |
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Apr-05-21
 | | Stonehenge: I had no idea he spoke Serbian that well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieY... |
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May-24-21
 | | HeMateMe: Tal v. Spassky, 1954 USSR junior championship, first game ever <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd9...> |
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May-25-21
 | | SteinitzLives: <Whitehat> Take a look at this one: Petrosian vs Dzaparidze, 1945
Petrosian plays the Kings Gambit. |
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Jul-29-21
 | | gezafan: <kingfu: From the movie , "Hard Times" .
James Coburn: "The only thing better than playing and winning is playing and losing."> I think the quote is "The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing" |
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Sep-08-21
 | | kingscrusher: Question guys:
From this extended Tal quote on the Hippo story: "The sacrifice was not obvious; there was a large number of possible variations;
but when I began to study hard and work through them, I found to my horror that
nothing would come of it. Ideas piled up one after another. I would transport a
subtle reply by my opponent, which worked in one case, to another situation
where it would naturally prove to be quite useless. As a result my head became
filled with a completely chaotic pile of all sorts of moves, and the infamous
"tree of variations", from which the chess trainers recommend that you cut off
the small branches, in this case spread with unbelievable rapidity.
And then suddenly, for some reason, I remembered the classic couplet by Korney
Ivanovi? Chukovsky <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korney...> : "Oh, what a
difficult job it was. To drag out of the marsh the hippopotamus"" etc My question actually relates to this part:
"from which the chess trainers recommend that you cut off
the small branches, in this case spread with unbelievable rapidity.
" I don't remember this tip in Kotov's "Think like a Grandmaster" - could some expand on this for me please. What does the tip actually mean?! The forcing variations or something? |
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Sep-08-21
 | | OhioChessFan: <Whitehat: or a Petrosian or Smyslov delivers a roundhouse kick in the face and finishes his opponent with a couple of loud sacrifices. Can someone point out some examples?> Not quite what you're asking for, but the exchange sac is always exciting. O Troianescu vs Petrosian, 1953 |
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Sep-08-21
 | | keypusher: <when a Tal or Keres uses very quiet and subtle moves to gradually suffocate his opponent, or a Petrosian or Smyslov delivers a roundhouse kick in the face and finishes his opponent with a couple of loud sacrifices.> Tal vs Kavalek, 1979 Smyslov vs Ribli, 1983 Petrosian vs Simagin, 1956 |
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| Sep-10-21 | | login:
Cut off the small branches
'.. concentrating on speculative chess knowledge within the evaluation function; and the use of forward pruning techniques which rely on this evaluation function knowledge ..' https://www.chessprogramming.org/Ch...
Unrelated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topiary
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| Sep-10-21 | | Z truth 000000001: Unrelated on the unrelated!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099487/
(Winona was good, but she was even better here:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt010253...) |
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Sep-12-21
| | kingscrusher: <Whitehat1963> I am quite impressed by the positional finesse of Tal in this game - the Na2 move is actually the engine's top choice as well. Tal vs Andersson, 1975 White starts to get a big positional advantage against the great draw master Ulf Anderssen after this quiet little Na2 move. Perhaps Tal is under the influence of Karpov playing in this "super-tournament" |
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Sep-17-21
| | kingscrusher: Having analysed hundreds of Tal's games recently, one of my conclusions is that Tal essentially created a massive infrastructure around the quotation by Tartakower: "The blunders are all there waiting to be made". - Saveilly Tartakower Examples :
1. Maximising complexity -> Helps create more blunders 2. Being very sensitive to any time of self-destruct move e.g.
self-deflect
self-pin
self-decoy
self-interfere
self-unprotect-piece
3. Being so sensitive to 2 and be able to force such matters to realise any subtlety there 4. Being sensitive to 2 also increases one's confidence that opponents will self-blunder in difficult to calculate positions 5. Having a very strong intuition to manage complexity oneself as well as very strong calculation ability - particularly of forcing move variations. In this respect, I think he is a bit like Lasker who also was a very "practical player" - and realised the limitations of human opponents. They both understood well that to maximise win probability you can take risks as long as the downsides are not that exploitable. |
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Sep-17-21
 | | 0ZeR0: <kingscrusher> I just want to say that I have been thankful of your recent Tal analyses. I’ve discovered many of his games I wouldn’t otherwise be aware of, and I’ve found your comments to be instructive and helpful. It makes sense that his approach to the game would be similar to Lasker’s as Lasker was his favorite player. |
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| Sep-17-21 | | Bartleby: Nice change of Tal picture for his chessgames.com page. I prefer the young, swashbuckling Magician from Riga to the villain from a Roald Dahl story. |
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Sep-18-21
| | kingscrusher: <0ZeR0> Thanks :) BTW I wasn't quite aware that Lasker was his favourite player - do you happen to know where he mentioned that? |
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Sep-18-21
| | kingscrusher: There is a very interesting Kasparov transcript about Mikhail Tal here: https://www.chess.com/news/view/gar... "Tal played 'wrong' chess - entertaining, spectacular, dramatic, combinational..." He sure did :) |
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Sep-18-21
| | 0ZeR0: <kingscrusher> https://www.chess.com/blog/kamalaka... In this article Tal is quoted as saying, <The greatest of the champions was, of course, Emanuel Lasker. At the chess board he accomplished the impossible!......He was an amazing tactician, winning games that were apparently quite hopeless.> Unfortunately, I am unsure as to the original source of the quote but I think I remember seeing it somewhere awhile back. |
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Sep-18-21
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<0ZeR0> that is an interesting chess.com article on <Lasker> you provided. It was written by User: kamalakanta , who remains an active cg.com member who regularly posts interesting material here at our website as well. |
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Sep-19-21
| | 0ZeR0: <jfq>
Thanks for the info. Perhaps if <kamalakanta> happens to see this, they could provide the source for the Tal quote. |
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Sep-19-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<0ZeR0> lol I was thinking the same thing... He is active at the moment so maybe he will turn up eh? |
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Oct-03-21
 | | fredthebear: Tal explains why he lost the rematch to Botvinnik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYU... |
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| Oct-19-21 | | Albertan: Riga to host Lindores Abbey Blitz in honour of Mikhaïl Tal’s 85th Birthday: https://www.fide.com/news/1375 |
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| Nov-09-21 | | Albertan: In Memory of Mikhaïl Tal:
https://en.chessbase.com/post/in-me... |
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Nov-09-21
| | 0ZeR0: Happy birthday and rest in peace to the unparalleled Magician from Riga, Mikhail Tal. Wherever there is still chess being played, your games and memory will live on forever. |
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| Nov-13-21 | | Albertan: The first and last games of Mikhaïl Tal:
https://www.chess.com/blog/whatagoo... |
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