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Jan-07-06 | | veigaman: Paradox that an attacking player as Tal would have so many problems with the king gambit |
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Jan-07-06 | | talisman: SO many problems? wha 2? |
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Jan-08-06 | | Giancarlo: <Re:Paradaox, Tal>
Paradox that apparently a God created man, yet he cannot keep them under wraps :-) |
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Jan-13-06 | | Sasportas: It was early in 1991 when I met Tal at breakfast in a Berlin hotel. He obviously loved to talk to a complete stranger, a patzer who identified himself as a fan of his. He was friendly, very polite, and after a while he started to tell about very personal things: the separation of his family between Latvia, Belgium, and Israel, his health situation, his skepticism about the merit of being a chess champion. "I'm only something like a circus clown", he said. Modesty? Melancholy? Asked why he stayed in Riga as the only member of his family, he anwered: "I must stay near the graves of my parents." A sad man, a sick man, but suddenly hilarious when asked about recent chess events. We spoke about younger chess players, and he told me he expected Vishy Anand to become the next world champion after Kasparov ... and while we talked he managed to have his breakfast - scrambled eggs with bacon in a quantity hardly bearable for someone with his heart and kidney problems. - A year and a half later, he died. Does anyone know if he is buried besides his parents in Riga? |
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Jan-13-06 | | talisman: BRANKAT:thanks for the response!I think we are all interested in what you have to say. |
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Jan-13-06 | | talisman: Sasportas:I wonder why he said "i'm something like a circus clown"? Modesty? meloncholy? elaborate please. |
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Jan-13-06 | | brankat: <talisman> The source of the following is a book: "Grandmasters up-Close" by a Yugoslav chess reporter Dimitrije Bjelica ( chess master himself), published in Sarajevo, 1967. I don't know if there is an English translation of this book. Bjelica and M.Tal were close personal friends since Portoroz, 1958. It was Tal himself that wrote the preface for the book. In it he says: " Dimitrije writes only about things that really happened". Anyway, here are the anecdotes.
1. At the end of the tournament in Zurich, 1959, Tal played a simul
on 38 boards. After it was over, a player that won a game approached
Tal and asked him if he would to comment on the game. Tal replied:"I
could have played better my 17th move." "You are not saying You memorized
a simul game?", was the players reply. Tal: "I memorize all the games".
There was a small wager placed, and Tal wrote down all 38 games without looking at the board! 2. In Portoroz, 1958. in his game against Tal, Roseto's position was somewhat better. Roseto offered a draw and Tal just gave him a real surprised look and immediately made his move. Roseto had an appearance of being hypnotised. His position collapsed in a few moves. It has been since then that people talk about Tal's "magic". 3. Tal has often been compared to Dr. Lasker. Once, when somebody
brought it up, Tal responded: "No. There is a big difference there. Lasker, they say, had been lost in every second game he played.
I, they claim, have been lost in every game."
4. After Tal's win over Keres, 3rd round, Candidates Tournament, Zagreb,
1959. Bjelica asked him: "When did Keres make a mistake?" Tal's reply
was: "At 9:30". Then he added: "Actually his mistake was 1.e4." 5. During the USSR Championship in Moscow, 1957. Tal had his game
vs Boleslavsky adjourned. Going home after the game he got stopped by a traffic policeman for jay-walking. Since Tal didn't have his ID on him,
the officer took in to the police station, and straight to the duty
officer. At that moment the officer was analizing the very same game Tal had played. His position was lost. When asked what his name was he said: "Tal". "I have enough problems with this chessplayer Tal, don't need another one." They started to analize the game together and went on till the morning, but no solution . That was when Tal admitted who he was. 6. Once, while he was in a hospital, Tal played a blindfold simul against
four opponents. Later, when asked about the score he said: "I won 2 and drew 1 game." "Well, what about the fourth?" Tal: " Oh, that one. My position was bad, but I won anyway. The opponent resigned, had to undergo a surgery." 7. Tal arrived to Sarajevo for a tournament on a March morning, 1966, by train from Belgrade. Bjelica was waiting for him at the railway station
and Tal said he had not slept the whole night and was tired.
Bjelica suggested that Tal should postpone his first round game. Tal asked: "Which pieces do I have today?" "White, against Damjanovic." was
the answer. "Then I will play. I have never postponed a game with white pieces." Tal won this game in his true style. Well, folks. That's all.
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Jan-14-06
 | | offramp: <brankat: <talisman> The source of the following is a book: "Grandmasters up-Close" by a Yugoslav chess reporter Dimitrije Bjelica ( chess master himself), published in Sarajevo, 1967.> Thanks, brankat, those are very interesting. Thanks for copying them out. Was Dimitrije Bjelica really a master? |
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Jan-14-06 | | brankat: <offramp> <Was Dimitrije Bjelica really a master?> Yes, he was. He was born in 1935, and was quite active as a player until about 1958., when he became a full time Chess reporter/journalist. In the following 20 years he played sparingly but still participated in about a dozen tournaments (minor ones) in Yugoslavia, Spain, Italy, Netherlands. He was awarded a Master's title in the mid-70's. I think, although I'm not sure of this, that a while later he got a FIDE Master's title. But, I may be wrong about this one. |
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Jan-14-06 | | WMD: Wasn't Bjelica a master of confabulation? And didn't he and Ray Keene once win journalism awards from an organisation that no-one had heard from before - or since? |
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Jan-14-06 | | brankat: <WMD> <Wasn't Bjelica a master of confabulation> As far as I know, he wasn't. The biographical info above is what I found in the commentary on Bjelica's work written by GM Borislav Ivkov, who knew Bjelica well. As I mentioned earlier, it was Tal himself who wrote the Preface for the book, and he certainly wouldn't put his signature on a fabrication. Bjelica also co-authored with GM Dr. Petar Trifunovic a book on RJF: "Fischer ante portas". It was sometime in the early 60's. Again, I don't know whether there is an English translation. For years he was regularly reporting for most reputable newspapers in the country. I used to read his columns between 1966 (Petrosian-Spassky match) till about 1980. He struck me as very well-informed, possibly because he had had so many close friends among the leading players of the period and was always able to get first hand information. Among others: Tal, Spassky, Fischer, Petrosian, Gligoric, Larsen. As for journalism awards with Ray Keene, I know nothing about it. |
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Jan-14-06 | | talisman: only recently have i seen remarks concerning TAL'S opium use during the late 60's.This from a supposed "friend" "susonko?"(somebody check the spelling),Can this be the truth-in the middle of the 1/2's w/ korchnoi?I find this hard to believe. |
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Jan-14-06 | | brankat: <talisman> Re: "susonko" This supposed friend is Gennady SOSONKO. I've never heard about Tal's opium use, till I read some remarks about it only recently in this database. I'm not sure that he was a "friend" of Tal's.
First, a friend wouldn't talk about it.
Secondly, in the late 60's, Sosonko was still only a master and lived in Moscow, while Tal resided in Riga. Doesn't look like they belonged to the same circle. Although I may be wrong, after all Tal was known to be on friendly terms with everybody, which is why he was so widely liked. |
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Jan-14-06 | | ughaibu: Doesn't this refer to morphine prescribed for pain relief? |
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Jan-14-06 | | brankat: <ughaibu> If anything, it does sound more likely than smoking opium. |
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Jan-14-06 | | whiskeyrebel: I personally doubt Tal ever "chased the dragon" as they say except on the chess board. It seems reasonable that his medical use of opium perhaps could have gotten out of hand. He was only human.. |
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Jan-14-06
 | | Eric Schiller: <brankat> I have an amusing photo of Bjelica in action at http://www.ericschiller.com/photos.... |
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Jan-15-06 | | brankat: <Eric Schiller>
Thank you so much Mr. Schiller for these quite fascinating
photos. How time flies. I had a chance to meet some of these people. Karpov in 1975 during a tournament in Yugoslavia, no comparisson with the current photo in this database. It is almost like: "What happened".Sure like Nakamura's pic from 1998. Looks like a baby. My fondest Chess-related memory goes back to 1961. when I was 10 years old. That was when I met a few famous GMs at Bled tournament.
Got autographs from Tal, Najdorf, Geller, Gligoric & Petrosian. Have a
photograph with Petrosian & Gligoric. Bobby F. was rarely signing autographs then, I didn't get one. During the same event somebody introduced me to old GM Borislav Kostic who was among the spectators.
Now, that was like a dream.
Re.: Your photo with M.Thacher, Karpov & Kasparov. I guess it was taken in 1985, or so. You, Sir,have not changed a bit! Btw, re: Petrosian's pic, I think it should be Bugojno, 1982., not 1992. Than You once again.
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Jan-15-06 | | brankat: <Eric Schiller> The last sentence in the above kibitz should read:
"Thank You once again" :) |
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Jan-15-06
 | | Eric Schiller: <brankat> You are right about Bugojno, it is a typo, should be 1982. I was there and had a great time. I've got more pictures from that event I'll add later. The picture with Kasparov and Karpov ignoring Thatcher is from the 1986 match, scene of many adventures. |
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Jan-15-06 | | brankat: <Eric Schiller> Thank You. Am looking forward to see some more photos. |
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Jan-15-06 | | PaulLovric: <brankat> kako si. <Eric Schiller>: thanks for the photos |
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Jan-15-06 | | DeepBlade: <Eric Schiller> Must have been a dream to see the great pioneers in chess! |
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Jan-15-06
 | | Eric Schiller: <deepblade> Well, when I think of chess pioneers I think of Staunton. I'm fortunate that my brief stay on this planet has included meetings with most of the great players of the post-WWII era. The players of that time were, on the whole, a lot more interesting than current professionals, with broad educations, well read, and interest in public affairs. Having breakfast with them has always been a delight. The master storytellers like Najdorf and Koltanowski are not around anymore. I'm off to Gibraltar in a few days as arbiter at GIBTEL, and look forward to meeting a few of the GMs for the first time. I haven't spent much time in Europe in recent years, except in London. I'll be posting regular reports here at Chessgames. |
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Jan-16-06 | | talisman: any 1st or 2nd hand accounts about tal? |
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