|Jul-25-07|| ||Caissanist: FM, son of IM Larry Kaufman. Reuben Fine noted that parent-child masters are quite rare (much rarer than sibling masters) and considered this to be evidence of the Oedipal nature of chess. Besides the Kaufmans, the only parent-child titled players that I know of are the Needlemans. |
|Jul-25-07|| ||Benzol: <Caissanist> The Vidmars also come to mind. Are there any others?|
|Aug-09-07|| ||Caissanist: Thanks Benzol, I'd forgotten about them. There's one more--GM Thomas Paehtz and IM Elisabeth Paehtz.|
|Aug-19-07|| ||whiteshark: Father: Michael Stock and daughter:
|Dec-04-08|| ||sisyphus: Ray Kaufman is now an International Master; title approved at the 79th FIDE Congress which was held 16-26 November 2008 in Dresden, Germany.|
|May-30-09|| ||sisyphus: I saw Ray Kaufman at the Arlington [Virgina] Chess Club last night; he was there for a blitz tournament. |
Afterwards, he was in the skittles room, playing cards – I presume poker. I don't know what the stakes were. But all the chess players who've taken up poker make me wonder if I could cash in.
|Jun-28-10|| ||Benzol: If I'm not mistaken Michael is the father of Jennifer and Greg.|
|Jun-28-10|| ||Jim Bartle: Yes, according to an article in the Smithsonian on Jennifer Shahade from 2003, her father Michael was Pennsylvania state champion several times.|
|Feb-27-11|| ||wordfunph: Philadelphia 1999, National Chess Congress:
National Master Raymond Kaufman is the son of GM Larry Kaufman. In the first round, they were somehow paired against each other. Larry protested and they were re-paired. As a result, both of them lost: Raymond to Yury Lapshun and Larry to the young Canadian player Zhe Quan.
(Source: Play 1.b4! by Yury Lapshun & Nick Conticello)
|Feb-27-11|| ||FSR: As usual, Wikipedia has the answer(s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...|
|Feb-27-11|| ||perfidious: One which might be missing: the Yudoviches, Mikhail Sr and Jr.|
|Feb-27-11|| ||FSR: <perfidious> I've added them. Thanks.|
|Oct-11-12|| ||Maatalkko: So, is there a parent-child set of GM's out there? I don't think so. There are famous father & son duos in baseball, boxing, driving, and American football. You'd think that, of the hundreds and now thousands of Grandmasters out there, some of whom even marry strong female players, one of them would have a child who is just as strong.|
On the other hand, lots of strong players, perhaps even most, have a father who is an amateur player. It seems that being better than your dad is one of the main draws in chess, while having an indomitable father is just discouraging.
The same thing happens with brothers, I think; if one brother is always stronger than another, the weaker one tends to quit chess. Asoka Nakamura is a famous example, and my own brother is another. I would take a large bet that Adream Liang won't be playing tournaments as an adult.
Sisters tend to fare better, so much so that I think the ladies would put up a good fight in a "sisters versus brothers" match of the top sibling teams.
It definitely helps to have a family who understands or at least respects chess. However, my theory is that chess is such a test of pride and ego that it's very difficult to compete, even indirectly, against those closest to you.
|Oct-11-12|| ||SteinitzLives: Chess brothers are more common than one would think:|
The Byrne Brothers,
The Bolbochan Brothers (or were they cousins?)
Lajos Portisch and his brother IM Ferenc Portisch,
The Horvath brothers (both GMs)
The Pert brothers, one IM and one GM, and they are twins,
The Agdestein Brothers,
The Orso Brothers,
and lest we forget: The Pirranha brothers; "born on probation".
|Oct-11-12|| ||perfidious: <SteinitzLives> Per the reference provided by <FSR> above, the Bolbochans were brothers.|
|Oct-12-12|| ||Maatalkko: <SteinitzLives> Good info. I always thought there was only one Horvath. Still, the Polgars are stronger than any of those, and there are also the Kosintsevas (both GM's) and the Muzychuks (GM and IM). I don't know if the Vasilevich women (both IM) are sisters or not. In the distant past, Vera Menchik had a less famous sister, Olga. |
I guess I thought there were more sisters in top level chess than there really are because the Muzychuks, Kosintsevas, and Polgars are so famous. I do think those families would beat the top three brothers in a team tournament, however. That would be a fun idea for a team tournament similar to the veterans vs young ladies match.