< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 78 OF 100 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Mar-23-14 | | diagonal: Happy Birthday, Viktor Lvovich!
<From Levenfisch & Lilienthal to Carlsen & Caruana> Viktor Korchnoi faced and beat players from four to five player generations: > winning among others versus the following notable chess players already active on a high level before World War II: mentioned Levenfish, Lilienthal; Lisitsin, Sokolsky, Mikenas, Guimard, Barcza, Golombek, Rossolimo, Bondarevsky, Kluger, Nezhmetdinov, Stahlberg, Pirc, Prins, Paoli, Flohr, Najdorf, Reshevsky, Keres, and Botvinnik, > winning versus Smyslov and the rising post-war youngsters — Korchnoi's generation: Bronstein, Geller, Petrosian, Tal, Polugaevsky, Stein, and Spassky, as well as versus Fischer, Larsen & Co., > winning vs. the (then new) Karpovian generation, suceeded by Kasparov and his computer followers, with Karpov always 20 years younger, Kasparov 32 years younger than Viktor the Terrible > winning with about 40 year-odds vs. elite players as Gelfand, Ivanchuk, Shirov, Topalov, Svidler, Leko, Judit Polgar, with having still a substantial lifetime plus against players about forty years younger of a calibre as eg. Akopian, Lautier or Piket. > winning with about 50 year-odds vs. Vallejo Pons (born 1982), Ponomariov (b 1983), Bacrot (b 1983), Grischuk (b 1983), Gashimov (b 1986, R.I.P. 2014), Carlsen (b 1990), Caruana (b 1994) > Oldest great player against whom Korchnoi won (1953): GRIGORY LEVENFISH, born 1889, GM 1950 (GM title inauguration) > Youngest great player (2700+) against whom Korchnoi won (2011): FABIANO CARUANA, born 1992, GM since 2007 (There are even later born players beaten by Korchnoi under regular tournament conditions, but these players are at that time too young to be considered as already at top level, among others: Hou Yifan, born 1994) > First win against (future) World Champion: 1952 versus GM Smyslov at Moscow, 20th USSR Championship > Last win against (future) World Champion: 2004/05 versus GM Carlsen at Drammen (with Carlsen beating Shirov) Happy Birthday, good health and recovery to the man who has spent his whole life and love for the royal game! |
|
Mar-23-14 | | sire: Happy birthday Viktor. |
|
Mar-23-14
 | | Joshka: Yes salute Victor!! It was your match with Karpov that really got me hooked on chess back in October of 1978. Walked into a bookstore without realizing it was a chess bookstore. They were scoring the match on the wall as you walked in, think it was right before Victor had scored his 2nd win in a row! Was so impressed by all the chess books, that I had no idea that they actually wrote books on chess!! Think I went to that store daily for about 3 months!!LOL Newbury Street, Boston, Ma. |
|
Mar-23-14
 | | WannaBe: Seen/met the man once, Las Vegas National Open, he was guest of honour and played table/board 1 every game, regardless of standing. Glad to be able to say I have seen him. Still a grouch, though. =)) |
|
Mar-23-14
 | | Joshka: <WannaBe> I envy you for sure in meeting Victor!! I got to meet Karpov,but I really think having a chat with Victor would have been more exciting. Thanks for sharing! |
|
Mar-23-14
 | | perfidious: <Joshka> 'Twas a sad day indeed when that store closed-only got to visit twice, also in October '78, then again the following June. Was closed by the time I moved to Boston in spring 1982. |
|
Mar-24-14
 | | offramp: I shook hands with the hand that shook the world! |
|
Mar-25-14 | | diagonal: Remake – Match between the old 'Leningrad boys' Viktor Korchnoi (aged 83) and Boris Spassky (aged 77), both suffered severe health problems, we know. It will be great to see them doing again, what they love most! <Schach-Event der Extraklasse in Leipzig 2014>, Veranstaltung auf Initiative von Dr. Gerhard Köhler, ORWO Net AG, Wolfen, Deutscher Schachbund DSB, Emanuel-Lasker-Gesellschaft und der Universität Leipzig: If health allows, then Viktor Lvovich and Boris Vasilievich will play four games, from (this) Friday, 28th march 2014 on, with live coverage. The official announcements:
<http://www.pressetext.com/news/2014...> <http://www.schachgemeinschaft-leipz...> <http://www.schachbund.de/news/schac...> For Viktor Korchnoi it is not a come-back, it is a continuation and the first public games after he suffered a stroke in september 2012. And the city of Leipzig creates also reminiscences of his first Chess Olympiads for the USSR in 1960 on board 4, whith Tal, Botvinnik, Keres, Korchnoi and Smyslov, Petrosian as reserve - what an incredible line-up! Even a formation of the then not nominated Bronstein, Spassky, Geller, Stein, Polugaevsky, Taimanov would be most certainly better that time than every other nation on this planet. A survey of Leipzig 1960 with pictures of young Bobby Fischer, the wizard Tal, Korchnoi (once called the Tal in-reverse), elder statesman Max Euwe, sixteen years young Vlastimil Hort (doesn't he looks a bit like Carlsen?) or Manuel Aaron, the first indian International Master who did much for the popularization of the game in India: <http://de.chessbase.com/post/schach...> After Korchnoi's attempt to play at the Zurich Christmas Open 2013 had to be declined because of health issues, the chess community keeps fingers crossed for Viktor Lvovich and Boris Vasilievich to a delicious next chess summit. I suppose, it couldn't be a better time and feeling as playing simultaneously during the present Candidates. |
|
Mar-28-14 | | diagonal: <The Rolling Stone of Chess> Viktor Lvovich, is playing again! Live coverage from the University of Leipzig:
<http://www.uni-leipzig.de/~zmk/news...> Korchnoi (in wheelchair, seconded at the entry by his wife Petra) is playing against Wolfgang Uhlmann. Exhibition with one hour each. Wolfgang Uhlmann, former Candidate, 1971 quarter-final vs. Larsen, and also member of the "Rest of the World" team in the famous match vs. the USSR in 1970, leading player for decades of former East Germany and undoubtedly the GDR's most successful ever. Boris Spassky had to withdraw of health problems or / and it was a misunderstanding <http://chess-news.ru/en/node/14817>, he was greeted warmly at the Opening ceremony. Korchnoi (*1931) vs. Uhlmann (*1935): A duel of two major french defense experts! Let's go! Dr. Gerhard Köhler, an amateur player and student player in the 1970s who is also engaged in popularizing chess for kids, made this chess summit possible: <Gerhard Koehler> |
|
Mar-28-14
 | | HeMateMe: Both Korchnoi and Spassky were in Leningrad when the German armies surrounded the city in 1941. Over 1 million civilians may have starved to death. Being children, they might have been evacuated from the city, not sure. They are two different personalities, one rough and one pleasant, but I think Spassky has an inner strength that isn't so visible. They both grew up in hard times and are probably stronger for it. |
|
Mar-28-14 | | Nerwal: <Spassky were in Leningrad when the German armies surrounded the city in 1941. Over 1 million civilians may have starved to death. Being children, they might have been evacuated from the city, not sure. > Spassky as did many young children left Leningrad by train; but it's not clear when he did so : just before the siege, or following the winter 1941-42, when a railroad was built on the icy Lake Ladoga, providing an escape for citizens of Leningrad. It's also not clear when he actually learned chess, in this train as the legend says, or shortly after in the Kirov Oblast. Apparently Korchnoi, who was six years older, stayed in Leningrad the whole time. No wonder he has become such a fighter... |
|
Mar-28-14 | | diagonal: <Live from Leipzig>: Korchnoi is on the road again |
|
Mar-28-14 | | Caissanist: Korchnoi was already playing in a wheelchair in the summer of 2012 (and looking like he could barely hold his head high enough to see the board), but he never stopped fighting, and even won some nice games. As long as he can move the pieces, he will never stop playing. |
|
Mar-28-14 | | RedShield: Aside from the problems of their infamous Candidates match, I believe Spassky has long resented Korchnoi's status as a defector. In a 1988 interview, he said: <As a result of this attitude towards me [post-Reykjavik] I started to fight against the Sports Committee. I started to fight against the political system. If a professional chess player is not sent abroad he can do nothing. I would have had to change my profession. I didn't become a dissident intentionally. Because I was a dissident, Kortchnoi wasn't. At that time Kortchnoi was a typical collaborator, an opportunist. The Sports Committee played a special game with him. (In a soothing tone) They forgave him something, some of his sins, some of his interviews. But my situation was very, very critical, as I got no tournaments.> I'd like to know whether Spassky would characterise himself as a collaborator and opportunist before he fell into disfavour. Korchnoi never made a secret that his decision to defect was primarily a professional one. As far as I know, Spassky has been far more outspoken (at least, since the fall of the Soviet Union) in his anti-Communism than Korchnoi. |
|
Mar-28-14 | | Caissanist: Korchnoi was a communist party member, Spassky was not. This distinction was a pretty big deal in the Soviet Union; I believe that Spassky was the only Soviet world champion who was not a party member. |
|
Mar-28-14 | | RedShield: Was Keres a party member? |
|
Mar-28-14 | | Caissanist: I don't know about Keres, but it turns out that I was wrong, Smyslov was not a party member either. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obi... |
|
Mar-28-14 | | RedShield: Was party membership a permanent state, or could one lapse into agnosticism? |
|
Mar-29-14 | | diagonal: The first competitive game of Viktor Lvovich since severe health issues: <http://www.argedrez.com.ar/pgnviewe...> game 1 in an exhibition match against Grandmaster fellow Wolfgang Uhlmann, active chess, one hour each player, no increments, with a traditional <analog> chess clock :)) |
|
Mar-29-14 | | afabian: Korchnoi won the 2nd game:
Game 1: http://www.argedrez.com/linkgame_12...
Game 2: http://www.argedrez.com/linkgame_12... |
|
Mar-29-14
 | | perfidious: <Caissanist: I don't know about Keres, but it turns out that I was wrong, Smyslov was not a party member either.> You <do> know what the penalty is for this error??? No trip to the dacha on the Black Sea for you this summer! |
|
Apr-23-14 | | AsosLight: I see despite his age and his problems hasn't forget to play the rook endgame. The strongest rook endgamer in the history. |
|
May-09-14 | | Strelets: <RedShield> Party membership was a lifetime deal unless "the most organized force of our times" decided to strip you of it. Khrushchev did this to Viacheslav Molotov in 1961 but he was eventually rehabilitated and even permitted by Konstantin Chernenko to rejoin the Party in 1984. As far as Smyslov goes, he was devoutly Russian Orthodox and never joined. This did not, however, preclude his developing connections with influential members of the nomenklatura-look at how he was picked to play on the USSR team at the Lugano Olympiad in 1968 instead of Misha Tal, reigning champion of the country(!) |
|
May-23-14
 | | Joshka: Has plus scores against 3 former World Champions, Tal, Petrosian and Spassky, and even scores against 2 more, Fischer and Botvinnik. What a shame he couldn't become World Champion. |
|
May-23-14 | | Petrosianic: He was never the best. He did well against Petrosian and Spassky when they were past their prime, but did poorly against them while they were in it. He broke even with Fischer largely when Fischer was before his prime. His record against Botvinnik is based on 4 games. None of that spells Should be World Champion. Janosevic had a winning record against Fischer. That's nice, but not Sure Fire World Champion Material either. |
|
 |
 |
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 78 OF 100 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
|
|
|