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|Feb-10-20|| ||Diademas: A few loose ends.
Your grandfather was christened in Domkirken 1902-11-09, and they were living in Sigursdsgate 15 at the time.
Your Great-grandmother Wilhelmine, sometimes referred to as Welemine or Vilhelmine, was born in Bergen 1865-03-04 as the 7th child of carpenter P.O. Thomsen (born 1822) and Anna Thomsen (nee Berle - born 1826). She is registered as a maid prior to marriage. In 1934 she is registered as a widow, living on a more humble location in Tversmuget 12.
The last entree for Jacob Jonas is 1922. At the time he is still living in Brynjulfsgate with his wife and three children. Including your grandfather.
|Feb-10-20|| ||Check It Out: I need to know the shoe size of my great-great grandmother's 2nd cousin's niece's sister. <Diademas>?|
Seriously, that's impressive work.
|Feb-10-20|| ||Diademas: Photoscan of the original protocol of emigration.
Your Grandfather is line 1366.
|Feb-10-20|| ||diceman: <Diademas: Photoscan of the original protocol of emigration. Your Grandfather is line 1366.>|
Wow, before Democrats they documented the undocumented? Who knew?
|Feb-10-20|| ||Count Wedgemore: <CIO: Seriously, that's impressive work.>|
I second that. Our friend is both <da man> and <dia man> :)
|Feb-10-20|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Diademas:
The house, in fact the entire street, got blown away when a boat filled with explosives exploded near by April 20th 1944.>
A similar catastrophe occurred in Halifax in 1910 or 11, IIRC. Many people were killed, over 1000 I think.
Also, many folks were blinded because the powerful explosion shattered windows and drove glass shards into their eyes faster than the blinking response could occur.
So as a result of the medical community trying to treat these poor souls, Halifax wound up on the cutting edge of support infrastructure for blind people
|Feb-10-20|| ||Diademas: <thegoodanarchist:
Also, many folks were blinded because the powerful explosion shattered windows and drove glass shards into their eyes faster than the blinking response could occur.>
That was very much the problem here too. The explosion "only" killed some 160 people, but wounded 5000. Many of them eye injuries.
My grandmother lived about a mile away when the explosion occurred in the morning. She was playing on the floor with my father who was a toddler at the time. Luckily she was between the kid and the window, so nothing happened to him. But according to her own frisky self, she was pulling glass out of her ass for years to come.
|Feb-10-20|| ||keypusher: Good golly!
And, tga, “cutting edge”? Really?
|Feb-11-20|| ||OhioChessFan: I was shocked when I saw <tga> had retina pun like that.|
|Feb-11-20|| ||Diademas: Want me do your grandmother too <keypusher>?|
|Feb-11-20|| ||thegoodanarchist: < Diademas: Want me do your grandmother too <keypusher>?>|
Only if she's into it. Remember, "no" means no!
|Feb-11-20|| ||thegoodanarchist: < keypusher: Good golly!|
And, tga, “cutting edge”? Really?>
< OhioChessFan: I was shocked when I saw <tga> had retina pun like that.>
Oops, I shoulda wrote "no pun intended". It was a bit crass.
|Feb-11-20|| ||OhioChessFan: I knew it wasn't really a pun, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity for a cornea joke.|
|Feb-11-20|| ||diceman: Brynjulfsgate?
Was that when the Mayor of Brynjulfs had to resign?
|Feb-11-20|| ||chancho: User: da man|
|Feb-11-20|| ||OhioChessFan: Iris I could stop with the puns, but the original comment lens itself to vitreous humor.|
|Feb-11-20|| ||keypusher: <Diademas: Want me do your grandmother too <keypusher>?>|
I won't stand in your way! But it's completely up to you.
I understand she (Marie Pope Heiberg) was born in California (1907), but I might be wrong. Her father was Claus Finde Heiberg. He was from Trondheim, not Bergen.
|Feb-11-20|| ||Diademas: Claus Finde Heiberg, Born Oct. 19th 1878. Youngest of 6 children to doctor Jacob Andreas Heiberg (born Trondheim 1835, dead Trondheim April 25th 1910) and Marie Nikoline Andrea (nee Lund, born Sogndal 1845).|
Born in Ørlandet where his father worked as a physician. Before 1890 they move to Trondheim where he had his confirmation in Vor Frue Kirke Jan. 10th 1893. He receives a degree in chemistry from Trondhjems Tekniske Læreanstal in 1897, and in 1898 he leaves for America. In 1910 he moves back. This may be on account of settling the affairs after his father's death. He brings a wife; Mary Pearl Heiberg (born USA Jan 4th 1888) and a daughter; Marie Pope Heiberg (born Jan 30th 1907).
He is now registered as a chemical engineer.
They seem to spend the next years altering between Trondheim and Portland, Oregon.
They leave Trondheim for the last time Jan 15th 1918 after a stay of 2 and a half years.
|Feb-11-20|| ||Diademas: Ps!
There is a footnote on their last exit-papers that may explain their long stay. It's from the local military authorities who now deem the voyage safe enough for a woman and a child.
|Feb-12-20|| ||keypusher: <diademas>
Thanks again! I'm amazed, honestly, that it was considered safe to sail in January 1918, with still almost a year to go in the war. Was the U-Boat menace so thoroughly quashed by then?
|Feb-12-20|| ||Diademas: <keypusher: <diademas>
Thanks again! I'm amazed, honestly, that it was considered safe to sail in January 1918, with still almost a year to go in the war. Was the U-Boat menace so thoroughly quashed by then?>|
Well, nothing is totally safe, but it seems like the Norwegian military assessment was rather good.
<At the end of 1917 Allied shipping losses stood at over 6 million GRT for the year overall. However monthly shipping losses had dropped to around 300,000 GRT, and never rose to the levels suffered in spring 1917.
With the establishment of a comprehensive convoy system, Allied shipping losses fell to non-critical levels, while U-boat losses increased alarmingly. >
I'm more impressed that they came at all. The paperwork in 1918 just roundly estimates their time in Norway to two and a half year. My best guess would be that they came prior to the sinking of the Lusitania in May 1915.
|Feb-14-20|| ||Diademas: It should be noted that your great-grandfathers degree, even though obtained only at the age of 19, came from what was, and still is, Norway's most prestigious place for higher learning within Engineering and Natural Sciences. Kind of a Norwegian MIT.|
|Feb-19-20|| ||keypusher: <Diademas: It should be noted that your great-grandfathers degree, even though obtained only at the age of 19, came from what was, and still is, Norway's most prestigious place for higher learning within Engineering and Natural Sciences. Kind of a Norwegian MIT.>|
Yes, I understand that he was quite brilliant, but apparently the people who invested with him lost all their money, and he died in poverty. He was a cautionary tale when I was growing up.
|Feb-19-20|| ||keypusher: [Event "Challenge from keypusher"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6
8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. d4 Qc7 12. Nbd2 cxd4 13. cxd4 h6 14. Nf1 Bb7
15. d5 Bc8 16. Ng3 Nh7 17. b3 Qd8 18. Bd2 Bg5 19. Nxg5 Nxg5 20. Rf1 Nb7
21. Qe2 Qe8 22. Kh2 f6 23. h4 Nh7 24. Nf5 a5 25. Qg4 Bxf5 26. exf5 Kh8
27. Qe2 b4 28. Rad1 Nc5 29. g4 e4 30. Bf4 Rd8 31. Rg1 g5 32. fxg6 Qxg6
33. Qe3 h5 34. Bxd6 Rxd6 35. Qxc5 f5 36. Qd4+ Qf6 37. gxf5 Qxd4 38. Rxd4 Nf6 39. Rg5 Ng4+ 40. Kg3 Nf6 41. Bxe4 Nxe4+ 42. Rxe4 Rxd5 43. Rxh5+ Kg7 44. f6+
|Mar-25-20|| ||keypusher: [Event "Challenge from keypusher"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 Nc6 3. Nf3 e6 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. Qc2 d6 6. Bd2 O-O 7. a3 Bxc3 8. Bxc3 Qe7 9. h3 a5 10. e4 e5 11. d5 Nd4 12. Nxd4 exd4 13. Bxd4 Qxe4+ 14. Qxe4 Nxe4 15. Be2 Re8 16. Rd1 Bd7 17. O-O Re7 18. Bd3 Rae8 19. Bc2 b6 20. Rd3 a4 21. f4 h5 22. f5 f6 23. Bd1 h4 24. Bh5 Ra8 25. Rf4 Ng3 26. Rxh4 Nxf5 27. Rf4 Nxd4 28. Rdxd4 Be8 29. Bf3 Bg6 30. h4 Re5 31. g4 Rae8 32. Rd2 Be4 33. Bd1 Ra8 34. Rd4 Bb1 35. Kf2 Ra5 36. g5 fxg5 37. hxg5 Rxg5 38. Bg4 Ra8 39. Be6+ Kh7 40. Rh4+ Kg6 41. Rd1 Rf8+ 42. Ke3 Bf5 43. Kd2 Rf6 44. Bg8 Rg2+ 45. Kc3 Bg4 46. Re1 Rf3+ 47. Kb4 Rxb2+ 48. Kxa4 Bd7# 0-1
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