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Apr-03-16
 | | MissScarlett: It's not from their match, but this is a contemporary photo: http://chsmedia.org/media/dn/s0/005... |
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Apr-23-16 | | Caissanist: Marshall's <My Fifty Years of Chess> is now online, on Google Docs ( https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxI... ), including <ranny>'s version of the match quote. |
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Jun-06-16 | | kevin86: Playing Lasker can be adverse to anyone's nature. |
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Jun-17-17
 | | MissScarlett: Philadelphia Inquirer, December 30th 1906, Sec. III p.2: <Mr. Marshall in a letter states that he has just been in a bad train wreck, which occurred at Donaldsville, La. His train while traveling at a high rate of speed collided with a freight. Mr. Marshall, though badly bruised and shocked, escaped with a sprained ankle and cut head. Mr. Marshall, in view of his accident and the nervous shock, expects to cancel several of his Southern engagements and return at once to New York. It is not expected, however, that he will be prevented from playing his match with Dr. Lasker, which, in all probability, will begin the middle of January.> The Wilmington Messenger, December 16th 1906, p.1: <Donaldsville, La., - December 15. - Four persons were killed and two seriously injured today in a head on collision between a passenger and a freight train at a long curve near here on the Texas and Pacific railroad. All the fatalities were among members of the train crews, no passengers being seriously injured.The engineers and firemen of both trains saw the approaching collision in time to escape by jumping. Scarecely had the engines crashed together when the boiler of the freight locomotive exploded. The loss of life was confined to the passenger train. Many passengers were painfully bruised, injuries around the head being especially frequent, from the force with which they were dashed forward upon the car floods and over seats.> |
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Dec-09-18 | | sudoplatov: Lasker was very strong. Look at Marshall's results from Cambridge Springs to this match. Several good tournament wins, one failure, and a bad match loss to Tarrasch. |
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Jan-13-19
 | | MissScarlett: Morning Post, January 7th 1907, p.2:
<The championship match between Lasker and Marshall did not begin Friday [Jan. 4th] as intended, but it is confidently anticipated that a start will be made this week. Marshall’s absence from New York is mentioned as an explanation of the delay. Less convincing excuses have been deemed sufficient for putting off a match for the chess championship of the world, but there is no doubt that the encounter will take place, for the new number of <Lasker's Magazine> announces that a sufficient sum has been subscribed, and that "it has been settled that the match will begin in New York in a public place. What portion of the match will take place there, and where the remainder will be played has not yet been decided.” The statement is satisfactory so far as it goes, but it shows that to the time of the magazine’s publication no date had been fixed for commencement, and that the negotiations with the clubs that are anxious to entertain the competitors had not been concluded. But probably these matters have since been arranged.Marshall has been touring in the Western States, and at Indianapolis, Chicago, and Racine won in all 58 games, drew five, and lost none. This is his record score, and <Lasker's Magazine> says, ”It is probably the record at multiple chess, for the chances of oversight in one or two games, when playing twenty or twenty-five boards simultaneously are so great that an error is usually made.” We also learn something of Marshall's idea of training for a championship match. He reduces his cigars to ten a day, he diets himself for a week, and sleeps as much as possible. "Sleep,” he says, ”is the best training for a chess-master,” and "if you want to play a rattling game of chess never eat heartily on the day the match takes place.” Marshall has made up his mind that if he wins the championship he will retire from chess.> |
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Jan-13-19
 | | MissScarlett: <Mr. Marshall, though badly bruised and shocked, escaped with a sprained ankle and cut head.> The <ACB>, January 1907, p.5, reported on the basis of a letter, presumably a different one, that Marshall suffered a <strained ankle and cut hand.> Maybe's Marshall's nervous shock affected his handwriting. |
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Dec-31-19
 | | MissScarlett: <American Chess Bulletin>, October 1908, p.207: <It is of interest to note that at the very time when the match [Lasker - Tarrasch World Championship Match (1908) ] got under way, workmen in New York began the demolition of the Everett House in Union Square, where some of the games of the Lasker-Marshall match were played. It is intended to erect a sixteen-story office building on the site of New York's famous land mark.> From the <Daytonian in Manhattan> site: <Despite the management's denials, the end of the venerable hotel was near. The building was foreclosed upon in 1907 and bankruptcy was forced upon the owners. On the morning of June 16, 1908 a notice was tacked to the office bulletin board announcing that the building would be torn down to be replaced by a 20-story office building. The New-York Tribune reported "The seventy-five guests, many of whom have been patrons of the hotel for years, looked at one another bewildered."As The Times had done, the Tribune reminisced about the hotel's storied history. "Prince Henry of Battenberg stayed at the Everett House and was wined and dined there, as did the Duchess of Marlborough, mother of the present Duke of Marlborough. It was during the Civil War that the Everett House was at the height of its glory, and oldtimers say that the scenes there at balls and dinners were brilliant ones." The developers gave a nod to the distinguished old hotel when it named the new building The Everett Building. Completed in 1909, it survives.> http://daytoninmanhattan.blogspot.c... |
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Jan-01-20 | | spingo: Americans have never been a wit sentimental when it comes to tearing down old buildings to make room for new. An example is that big station in New York, which was demolished because it was in the wrong city (Pennsylvania Station). There was also Al Capone's Lexington Hotel in Chicago, and in the same town the colossal Masonic Temple - all gone. In Europe we tend to keep them up unless (a) it falls down or (b) a malcontent makes it fall down. The Belgians have not fared well in keeping beautiful old buildings standing. What the various wars did not destroy, the Belgians demolished of their own free will and accord.
See Zandvoort (1936) (kibitz #6). It is hard to balance progress with heritage. |
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Mar-05-20 | | asiduodiego: "Tedious play aimed at wearing down my opponent is averse to my nature." That one is new. I'm used to the usual excuse of "I was sick during the match". But, Marshall breaks new ground here with this excuse: what he is basically saying is "Chess is actually boring". |
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Mar-05-20 | | Petrosianic: His matches with the big guns were certainly boring: vs. Lasker +0-8=7
vs. Capablanca +1-8=14
vs. Tarrasch +1-8=8
TOTAL +2-24=29 |
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Mar-05-20 | | asiduodiego: Yes. Chess is a boring game indeed when you just win 2 games out of 55. |
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Nov-09-21 | | Albertan: A Century of Chess:Lasker-Marshall 1907:
https://www.chess.com/blog/kahns/a-... |
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Jul-01-24 | | lentil: "Tedious play aimed at wearing down my opponent is averse to my nature." Yes, and psychological warrior Lasker exploited this weakness! |
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Jul-02-24 | | Granny O Doul: In defense of Marshall (not to invoke the dubious "Marshall's Defense"), "My Fifty Years of Chess" is generally thought to have been ghostwritten. See https://www.chesshistory.com/winter... . |
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Jul-03-24
 | | keypusher: <lentil: "Tedious play aimed at wearing down my opponent is averse to my nature." Yes, and psychological warrior Lasker exploited this weakness!> Self-serving nonsense from Marshall (or his ghost Reinfeld). Lasker did nothing of the kind. Marshall vs Lasker, 1907 Does that look like "tedious play aimed at wearing down [the] opponent"? Same for these, unless you think endgames are tedious by definition, which Marshall certainly didn't believe. Marshall vs Lasker, 1907 Lasker vs Marshall, 1907 |
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Jul-04-24 | | sudoplatov: I read somewhere about Marshall that these comments weren't borne out in play. Marshall did play lots of good endgames; he also changed his approach to other players when doing badly early. (However, Spielmann termed Marshall and himself as "Serienspeiler.") Marshall's performance during the 1905-1908 period is pretty good outside these matches. Scheveningen 1905: 1st 11.5/13
Nuremberg 1906: 1st 12.5/16
Duesseldorf 1908: 1st 11.5/15
He had other less impressive results. Some wins and losses in matches. It seems (based on a perusal of results) that Marshall was in the top 5 for a long time. Capablanca, Lasker, and Alekhine were just better. (I think rating spreads at the top are bigger than the same numerical spread in lower ranks). There are the usual A>B>C.>A type results among various players including Marshall. He had poor results against Tartakover but almost even with Nimzovich and Rubinstein. Sans match results, Marshall scored quite well against both Rubinstein and Tarrasch. I don't know about Marshall's health or alcohol consumption. |
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Jul-04-24
 | | perfidious: Pondering Marshall's record evokes memories of his contemporary Bogoljubow and, decades later, Larsen: these players also were well within the first ten in the world, yet came to grief at the rarefied levels of world title competition. In no wise does this diminish their considerable achievements. |
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Jul-04-24
 | | keypusher: <sudoplatov>
<It seems (based on a perusal of results) that Marshall was in the top 5 for a long time. Capablanca, Lasker, and Alekhine were just better. > I think that's exactly right.
<I don't know about Marshall's health or alcohol consumption.> I don't either, but he was very good for a very long time. He had some fine results in the 1920s. |
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Jul-04-24
 | | perfidious: It is easy to forget that, despite being slaughtered by Capablanca, Tarrasch and Lasker in set matches, Marshall could otherwise handle himself, and his contributions to opening theory have proven far-reaching. It is mind-boggling to me that, while his variation in the Spanish is debated to this day, Marshall introduced the Modern Benoni in master praxis. |
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Jul-04-24 | | Petrosianic: Nobody forgets that, they just don't respect it. Marshall, Janowski, Larsen, Bogoljubov and the like were terrors against weaker players. But how they did against the cream is how they are and should be remembered. |
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Nov-05-24 | | tonsillolith: <<MissScarlett>...Marshall's idea of training for a championship match. He reduces his cigars to <ten a day>, he diets himself for a week, and sleeps as much as possible.> Ah, a strategy I hadn't considered. Maybe I should limit my cigars from zero up to ten per day |
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Nov-05-24
 | | Sally Simpson: A bit strict Petro,
< Marshall, Janowski, Larsen, Bogoljubov and the like were terrors against weaker players. But how they did against the cream is how they are and should be remembered.> Are they remembered in that way? Should they be? I have them on the same pedestal as all the other great players. Chess would a lot poorer without these guys games.
If anyone declines to play over the games of say, Janowski and Marshall just because they peaked in the Lasker and Capablanca era then they are missing out on some wonderful games. |
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Nov-05-24 | | fabelhaft: Larsen I remember as the guy that scored results like this a decade after his peak: Buenos Aires (Clarin) (1979) Buenos Aires (Clarin) (1980) Not to mention the very nice wins in both games against the reigning World Champion in Second Piatigorsky Cup (1966) |
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Nov-05-24
 | | perfidious: <tonsillolith....Maybe I should limit my cigars from zero up to ten per day> Dr Lasker did right well smoking cigars. |
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