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Sep-10-15
 | | Check It Out: <At a strictly personal level, if not to the manor born, Spassky was certainly to the gracious manner born.> "He was born a pauper to a pawn" |
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Sep-10-15 | | thegoodanarchist: <Check It Out: <At a strictly personal level, if not to the manor born, Spassky was certainly to the gracious manner born.> "He was born a pauper to a pawn">
Alvin Tostig's son? |
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Sep-23-15 | | Edeltalent: On the topic of playing out a match if the title is no longer at stake: Some comments by Kasparov on the final games of the 1990 match against Karpov (which he won 12,5:11,5 after having defended the title already at 12:10 after game 22). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxy... |
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Sep-23-15 | | Petrosianic: <thegoodanarchist> <I think this idea has its merits. I cannot favor it, though, because once a player goes through the herculean challenge of becoming world champ, he should retain that title until decisively beaten.> Well, I like the idea of a drawn match sending the champion down to the candidates level. I can think of only one possible downside to it. Suppose it's Game 24 of a Karpov-Kasparov match. Karpov is losing 11-12. So he's out of the running and in the next candidates. The question is, does he want to win the next game and send Kasparov down too? He might think to himself "Nobody can knock me out of the candidates except Kasparov. Do I really want him down there with me where he can have the chance? If I have to lose to him again, let it be in the next championship, not in a candidates match. That way I can collect the big money." That's possible, but nevertheless I think I'd go for the idea. On the other side of things, there's the chessplayer's ego that would want to make him win that game and be able to say he didn't lose the match. And it's good for his reputation. I think Bronstein's legacy is enormously better than it would have been if he had lost that match by one point. |
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Sep-24-15
 | | perfidious: <Petrosianic: Imagine a match where the champion is really kicking tail. Like 12-8. Would you really want to deny him the opportunity to win the match just because he'd already defended his title?> There was, of course, the Alekhine-Euwe return match, featuring the challenger doing the kicking, having obtained the necessary 15.5 points and six wins with five games to go. All the games were played out and Alekhine scored +1 -2 =2 in the remainder. |
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Sep-24-15 | | Lt.Surena: thegoodanarchist:players like Fischer, ...were unquestionably worthy challengers. Oh Yeah! Bobby was worthy challenger because he MISSED the qualifying tournament to play in 1970 Interzonal by purpose. Then he got in because Benko was payed under the table with the cooperation of the goons from USCF and FIDE (Euwe). |
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Sep-24-15 | | Petrosianic: The phrase is "on purpose", not "by purpose". Are you aware that Fischer won the 1971 Candidates? |
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Sep-24-15 | | Lt.Surena: You're trying very hard to legitimize and justify the cheating scandal perpetrated by USCF, Euwe(FIDE) and half dozen others to get Bobby into 1970 Interzonal. *Much like a cat trying to cover up doo doo on a marble floor. P.S. Bobby chose not play in US championship series of 1969 that was the qualifying tournament for the 1970 Interzonal. Benko was payed off under the table for his seat at 1970 Interzonal with the help of the chumps
mentioned above. |
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Sep-24-15 | | diceman: <Lt.Surena: You're trying very hard to legitimize and justify the cheating scandal perpetrated by USCF, Euwe(FIDE) and half dozen others to get Bobby into 1970 Interzonal.> Petrosianic isn't trying as hard as Fischer.
...who slaughtered everyone in his path
to the title. |
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Sep-24-15 | | Petrosianic: Asking you a question is "trying to legitimize a cheating scandal"? You don't believe that. It's too ridiculous. What I asked was if you knew Fischer had won the 1971 Candidates. If you didn't know, just admit that you didn't know. If you did know, why are you afraid to say so? |
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Sep-26-16 | | Aunt Jemima: From the bio, <At a strictly personal level, if not to the manor born, Spassky was certainly to the gracious manner born. > ???
Challenge: please rearrange these random words to form a coherent sentence. Thank you please. |
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Sep-26-16
 | | MissScarlett: You may care to read this: Biographer Bistro |
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Sep-26-16 | | Petrosianic: <Challenge: please rearrange these random words to form a coherent sentence.> It's saying Spassky is a nice guy. |
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Sep-26-16 | | Aunt Jemima: <Petrosianic> Thank you please. |
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Oct-22-16
 | | offramp: Spassky came into this match knowing that he had to win one more game than his seemingly indestructible opponenet. In 1965 Petrosian had lost three serious games: one to Portisch and two to Korchnoi. In 1966 up to this match Petrosian had lost one game, a training game, Boleslavsky vs Petrosian, 1966. (After this match he lost three games at the Second Piatigorsky Cup. 7 losses in 1966.) So halfway through the match, game 12, and Petrosian is 2-0 ahead. Spassky has to win 3 games out of the final 12. He manages to do this difficult feat but in the process he lost another 2 games. Although the games were all very hard-fought I don't think Petrosian was ever in danger of losing his title. |
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Oct-22-16 | | ZonszeinP: Spassky managed to beat Keres four times in only 10 games.
Only 3 times he beat Petrosian in 24..
Spassky was tired |
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Oct-23-16 | | Howard: There was undoubtedly more to it than that. Petrosian wasn't nicknamed "Iron Tigran" for nothing. Not only that, in a 24-game match, there will almost always be a lot of draws as both players need to conserve energy, not to mention not push themselves too hard. |
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Oct-23-16 | | ZonszeinP: True
Yet, I would kindly draw the attention to the fact that Spassky played more than 50 games in 1965 to reach Petrosian (including matches against players of the calibre of Keres, Geller and Tal)
Brilliantly winning |
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Oct-25-16 | | Howard: That reminds me of a comment that Spassky had made prior to his second match, in 1969, with Petrosian. He had stated that if he lost this match, this would probably be his last attempt at becoming world champion because he just didn't feel up to the task of going through a THIRD set of
Candidates matches.
Luckily for him, he won against Petrosian this time around. |
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Oct-25-16 | | Petrosianic: Maybe Spassky was selling himself short. After 1969, he did go through a 3rd, 4th, and even 5th series of candidates matches. |
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Oct-25-16 | | Howard: True---maybe after being able to "rest" through the 1971 series of matches, he might have been recharged enough to make another go at it. |
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Feb-18-18
 | | OhioChessFan: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/up... |
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Feb-19-21 | | Allanur: Pre-match interview blitz of Spassky and Petrosian:
https://www.chess.com/blog/Ruhubele...
This interview was kinda different. It was of casual questions and a blitz match: 20 seconds given to answer the questions. |
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Oct-26-24
 | | perfidious: Footage from the opening game at the start of this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsO... |
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Mar-16-25
 | | Sally Simpson: CHESS, June 1966, during the match Dimitrije Bjelicka had interviews with Bronstein, Botvinnik and Tal.
Bronstein and Tal had a laugh, Botvinnik came across has being serious.Bronstein: "The world champion in 1975 will be Larsen, before him Korchnoi in 1972 and Fischer will beat Spassky in 1966." (all tongue in cheek as he gives the No.9 for this reasoning and appears to get the possible dates wrong.) Botvinnik: (when told of what Bronstein said agreed he was joking.) but added Russia will lose the title within 12 years as apart from Spassky and Tal they have no young players of sufficient promise. (interview given before Karpov won Leningrad Masters-Candidate Masters (1966) and became the the youngest Soviet master at 15.) Tal when told in an earlier interview that Spassky, Botvinnik and Petrosian considered Fischer as the best non-Soviet player replied none of them have played a match v Larsen.(Tal beat Larsen in their 1965 match Tal - Larsen Candidates Semifinal (1965)) Then joked he and Spassky will become custom officials and the title will never be allowed to cross the border. |
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