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Aug-16-18  sneaky sqeeky: Aretha died of pancreatic cancer, a subject I know first hand. My husband passed from it. the average life span is 180 days. He lived 188 days. painful but fast, in most cases.
Aug-16-18  Mirovsk: Chessgames is not the same... couldn't find St. Louis Grand Chess Tour... it ended today... Nakamura is the winner... congrats Naka...no matter what, you've been always on top..
Aug-16-18
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  Big Pawn: < Mirovsk: Chessgames is not the same... couldn't find St. Louis Grand Chess Tour... it ended today... Nakamura is the winner... congrats Naka...no matter what, you've been always on top..>

That's because even though the webmaster passed away last month, no one has stepped up to keep things going. The one guy that said he would, actually sent the posters here a message telling them to basically eff themselves and that he's got more important things to do, but maybe he'll get around to it sooner or later.

That's where it is right now.

Aug-16-18
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  morfishine: Aretha was great, but Ella was my all time favorite, hands down
Aug-16-18  FischerOfMen: <BigPawn: Holiday sang blues, and Fitzgerald sang Jazz..They each excelled in their respective genres>

Not true, that's ridiculous. Billie hardly ever recorded 12-bar blues songs, and was as jazz as you can get. I guess you were misled by the "Lady Sings The Blues" title? That tune also isn't a blues.

Aug-16-18
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  Big Pawn: <FischerOfMen: <BigPawn: Holiday sang blues, and Fitzgerald sang Jazz..They each excelled in their respective genres>

Not true, that's ridiculous. Billie hardly ever recorded 12-bar blues songs, and was as jazz as you can get. I guess you were misled by the "Lady Sings The Blues" title? That tune also isn't a blues.>

I wasn't mislead by the movie. I had listened to her music for years before I ever saw the movie. It's true that she's a jazz singer, but it's got a very blues feel to it. Songs like In My Solitude, Porgy and Bess - all of them. They have that slow blues feel.

And I did't say anything about 12 bar blues.

Look at a song like Angel Eyes as recorded by Chet Baker. That's a Jazz but it's definitely a minor blues as well. Holiday was like that to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XE...

Aug-16-18
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  Big Pawn: Billy Holiday singing the blues!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytq...

The Blues are Brewin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWt...

I gotta right to sing the blues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hph...

Good Morning Heartache is one of those that doesn't fit a blues form, but it has a bluesy feel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3j...

Stormy Blues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwG...

I think Billy Holiday had a very bluesy style even when she was singing pure jazz.

That last one Stormy Blues has some great sax too.

Aug-16-18
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  cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...
Aug-16-18  Luke Warm: No, Billie Holiday isnít a blues singer in the trad 12-Bar Blues format, or Iíd be listening to her more. Sheís high quality though, if for some strange reason youíre into high quality.
Aug-16-18
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  thegoodanarchist: <Keyser Soze: <tga> great singing!

As for Dylan I like the older and more golly stuff like "Desolation Row", A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall"," Eternal Circle" and so on.>

My favorite Dylan song is, of course, <Like a Rolling Stone>.

Can any(one) guess where it was ranked in the <Rolling Stone> list of 500 greatest songs of all time? Any<one>?

Self-serving? A little bit, yeah. But they will get no argument from me.

Aug-16-18
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  zanzibar: Normally the "she's great but I like this other better" comparisons are done on days when one or the other didn't just die.

Just saying...

Here's one - it takes a diva to know a diva:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9N...

Aug-16-18
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  thegoodanarchist: < Big Pawn: Aretha Franklin was good but I like Ella Fitzgerald better. >

<morfishine: Aretha was great, but Ella was my all time favorite, hands down>

I agree. But that's because I like Ella's music better.

For female singers, I prefer Jazz over Rock. For male singers, I prefer Rock over Jazz.

Best Jazz is instrumental.

Aug-16-18  Luke Warm: thegoodanarchist,

You mean that Dylan song that announced itself with that marvelous snare drum snap? Number one.

Aug-16-18
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  zanzibar: I had a friend whose wife had pancreatic cancer. She underwent the Whipple procedure, which is perhaps as severe an operation as one could have.

She never complained at any time that I knew. But it was difficult for her, unmistakably.

Pancreatic cancer is so deadly, partially because it is usually very late stage before it's even detected. Jaundice of the eyes is one symptom, caused by bilirubin in the bloodstream. This means that the tumor has grown so large as to block the bile duct.

All cancer are bad, but pancreatic cancer is one of the most serious.

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Aug-16-18  nok: Ella was good but I prefer Pavarotti.
Aug-16-18
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  zanzibar: Funny.
Aug-16-18  sneaky sqeeky: very aggressive cancer.
Aug-16-18  Luke Warm: Itíd be nice to hear Like a Rolling Stone again for the first time...

Dylanís for sure a Civil Rights leader - heís relevant today. I donít think thereís a white friend to blacks like Dylan - correct me if Iím wrong.

Aug-16-18
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  cormier: nite nite guys ... ths G
Aug-16-18
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  zanzibar: This is probably my last post on the subject tonight, but for the scientifically oriented, this very recent discovery might be of some interest/significance:

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...

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Aug-16-18  HeMateMe: I think pancreatic cancer has but a 5% survival rate. It killed the actor Michael Landon, who was a TV star in the 70s and 80s. Gene therapy is the future for treating this killer. A tailored virus is injected into the bloodstream that lets your body cells destroy the cancer cells without chemo or radiation therapy. So far it's been working for leukemia (blood cancer) and has promise for all cancers. gene therapy will also be used to weed out genes that embryos would otherwise carry that predispose them to cancers and other ailments. It will be used before conception takes place.

Just noticed (on youtube) that it was Keith Richards who inducted Aretha Franklin into the rock HOF, along with Atlantic records founder Ahmet Eturghan. AE I can understand, as he signed franklin to the label and gave her financial stability, a lifelong friendship [Led Zeppelin loved Ahmet as well]. Richards? He did a horrible job at the induction, just blathered a bunch of crap at the mike, nothing prepared at all. You'd think she would have chosen someone like little Richard or maybe a gospel singer like Mahalia Jackson, perhaps a soul star like Al Green or Lou Rawls.

Aug-16-18
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  diceman: <nok:

Ella was good but I prefer Pavarotti.>

Pavarotti was too bluesy.

Aug-16-18
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  diceman: <Luke Warm:

Dylanís for sure a Civil Rights leader>

He's the wrong color.

<heís relevant today.>

Who?

<I donít think thereís a white friend to blacks like Dylan>

Is he handing out Kevlar vests in Chicago?

<correct me if Iím wrong>

From now on, or just this one post?

Aug-17-18  HeMateMe: <chessgames> one can't click on the game of the day link, there is a glitch.
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