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Mar-30-15  HeMateMe: your avatar is baseball great Babe Ruth, right?
Mar-30-15
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  whiskeyrebel: Yep. A nice jolly slugger.
Mar-30-15
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  Stevie King: "Teach me to dance."
Zorba's Dance from "Zorba the Greek": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_B...
Mar-30-15  diceman: <MissScarlett:
Can you imagine Bobby Fischer doing Macbeth?>

Fischer 1992:

“Here lay Spassky,
his silver hair laced with his golden blood.”

Mar-30-15  diceman: <Has anyone seen this Magnus Carlsen impersonator?>

...he forgot the orange juice.

Mar-30-15
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  keypusher: <Karposian: <You should read up on chess history.> Oh my!! I just read up on chess history and found out that some of the people on your list died quite young! Or they had health problems or other personal problems..what a tragedy..!!

Who cares for their great successes at the chess board, world championship titles..immortal games that will be admired for centuries..in front of these horrible tragedies??>

Believe it or not <you should read up on chess history> is a very substantive response by harrylime's standards. I'd written a long response raising various questions (like, what about Rubinstein?) but deleted it, figuring I was wasting my time.

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  Karposian: <keypusher: I'd written a long response raising various questions (like, what about Rubinstein?) but deleted it, figuring I was wasting my time.>

Well, even if your response would have gone straight over <harry>'s head (I strongly suspect it would), I'm sure it would have been an interesting read for many others here. You offer many well-written and informative posts here on <CG>, with interesting takes on different subjects.

And you are absolutely right: Rubinstein!

Indeed, that is a sad personal life story. "The tragic genius" as someone called him. But what a beautiful chess legacy he has left us!

Mar-30-15  diceman: <OBIT: <HeMateMe> That guy does a great job of looking like Magnus, but IMO it's more of a Nakamura impersonation. Or, maybe all 2800 players act like that.>

...very serial killer.

Mar-30-15  Deus Ex Alekhina: <whiskeyrebel> <I don't even remember why I left> It's called a hangover. You moved to San Antone, which is famous for the car rental agency. Where you lived last you felt those good ol' boys with gun racks in their pickups would look askance at a chessplayer.
Mar-30-15
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  Stevie King: How come you guys keep suggesting there's more to the game of chess than chess itself? Things like tragedy and serial killing?
It's only a game.
Mar-30-15
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  Stevie King: If someone said Alsakan King Crab fishing is dangerous, I'd be like "Yeah, what those guys do is incredible." But if someone someone said chess is dangerous, I'd be like, "What, because of the danger of falling asleep?"
Mar-30-15
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  Karposian: <But if someone someone said chess is dangerous, I'd be like, "What, because of the danger of falling asleep?">

But <Stevie>, remember this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...

Mar-30-15
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  Stevie King: Yeah, but I mean whatever, could've been over a game of cards or a woman.
Mar-30-15  ljfyffe: Falling asleep while playing a serious game of chess?......Not likely..nor shortly after, either,
Mar-30-15
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  Stevie King: Depends, I could fall asleep at the board so I drink alot of coffee to stay alert and read a bunch and chat with people during the day so the old noggin's working good.
Mar-30-15  Baron Harkonnen: Neon Trees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syS...

Mar-30-15  HeMateMe: A documentary is coming out in a few days about Chris stamp and Kit Lambert, the early managers of the Who. Should be an interesting look back on an era. Unfortunately, many of the people of that time are no longer with us. Perhaps archival footage will be used, as needed. Obviously Entwhistle and Moon are no longer able to answer questions.

<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3458236/>

I'm not sure how much credit they deserve for the success of the Who, if any at all. One of them might have helped right parts of Tommy, without ever getting a writing credit, not sure about that. Daltrey has mentioned it before.

Really, the USA just had to be introduced to the Who's loud heavy live show and they were able to break big in the USA. That, and the evolving of Pete Townshend's song writing to more serious subjects than masturbating and girls with sweaty hands.

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  Karposian: <HMM: Really, the USA just had to be introduced to the Who's loud heavy live show and they were able to break big in the USA.>

Yeah, as live performers they were awesome. One of the best live rock acts ever.

When it comes to their studio work I find them to be a bit more uneven. Some great albums, some really bad ones.

"The Who Sell Out" is by far their best album.

A concept album, it's their "Sgt. Pepper".

Mar-30-15  HeMateMe: <karpo> I'm a huge Who fan, I like almost all of it, except the last two records, early 80s, which had no edge, just pop fluff.

I like The Who sell Out too, but that's still the British singles era, crank out a new 3 minute single every 2 months, or you're yesterday's fish wrappings. Aside from that album's mini-opera A Quick One, I don't think Townshend has really found his way yet as a song writer.

His discarded Light House concept became Who's Next, 1971, maybe the best rock album ever made, better than Sgt. Pepper. I think that is their peak, even better than the Tommy record.

I got to see them in the mid 90s at MSG. They were touring a revamped Quadrophenia, and it was a pretty good show. Billy Idol was on board as the bags porter. In an earlier show, he had somehow hit Daltrey in the face with a mike stand, producing a nasty black eye, so Roger had to do some of the next few shows with a patch over his eye.

<https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...>

Right in the middle of the show Daltrey put a half hearted foot in Idol's arse, which was funny. Some onstage one up manship? Billy Idol was never anything but a clone of Daltrey, and his five minutes were past.

Entwhistle was still here, alive, but no Moonie.

There was one more relevant tour, where Townshend did his psychoderelict project, as the burned out rock singer Ray High. That just played at small theaters, but got good reviews.

It Spawned a mini hit, English Boy. This is pretty cool:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfN...>

Long live Rock!

Mar-30-15
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  Karposian: <HMM: Long live Rock!>

Amen, brother.

Great post. BTW, that's a really funny story about Daltrey and Billy Idol. Idol was really big in the 80s, then slowly just faded away. I know he still performs, but very few seems to care..

Entwistle was arguably the greatest bass player of all time. What a loss that was for rock music. Cocaine overdose, I think it was.

Mar-30-15
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  OhioChessFan: <HMM: His discarded Light House concept became Who's Next, 1971, maybe the best rock album ever made, better than Sgt. Pepper. >

No maybe about it.

Mar-30-15  Baron Harkonnen: Either that or Rolling Stones "Exile on Main Street" or "Led Zeppelin IV" . Beatles sounds pop when you listen those 3 hard rock masterpieces..
Mar-30-15  Baron Harkonnen: The Who

'melancholia'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiF...

'relay'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn8...

5:15 (nice video set up)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR5...

Mar-30-15
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  tpstar: 1) White to Play and Win


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Mar-31-15  HeMateMe: The Glyn Johns auto bio from 2014 has references to a lot of this stuff, he knew everyone, lots of good stories. This guy, sound engineer/producer must have worked 25 hours a day.

He was the original guy called in to do the rag tag Beatle recordings that became Let It Be. For some reason George Martin was out, and they called in Johns, who was welcome in all camps. According to GJ, it was he (Johns) who suggested they play live on top of the Saville Row building, or Apple, whatever it was called. They knew that a police station was just 3 blocks away and they would be shut down (the noise) but they were able to squeeze out 30 minutes before the police arrived, enough for the movie.

Funny thing, the Glyn Johns mastering of Let It Be has never been heard. He said that after finishing his own work product, John Lennon gave the master tapes to Phil Spector and let Spector do an alternate mix. [Beatles battles--Paul was a friend of Glyn Johns, therefore Lennon had to let *his* guy, Phil Spector, do an alternate version?]

GJ: "Spector just puked on the tapes." I like that. "Syrupy, crap that didn't sound like the Beatles." I think that's a reference to the choral music in The Long and Winding Road. Actually, it sounds a little bit like something McCartney would do. Anyway, the Phil Spector mix is the final version of Let It Be that people have been buying all of these years. A couple of years ago Paul McCartney released Let It Be Naked, a stripped down version of the masters, without Phil Spector's input. But, I don't think that Glyn John's version has ever been released. It's probably not a lot different than the 'Naked' version, anyway.

another curious bit of Beatles trivia--I think with the Let It Be Naked CD McCartney has included a bonus disc called Fly On The Wall. It's just an hour or so of the Beatles talking about music, a few guitar riffs here and there, just farting around. When Let It Be was taking shape Glyn Johns recorded the group as they were just relaxing between takes, goofing off. I've heard part of it, nothing special, more talk than music. He wanted to include this with the Let It Be Album, as a separate disc. He said "John, George and Ringo immediately voted it down." No mention of Paul. It was McCartney who wanted the group to play a few small clubs around 1969, to get back the feel, the energy of the music, but the others didn't want to. anyway, Fly on the Wall sat in the vault for 40 years. They might have pulled out the music bits of it for the Anthology I, II, III series of the mid 90s.

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