Jan-18-12 | | King Death: White's buildup to the Ne6 sacrifice seemed to be inevitable but his opponent didn't do much to stop it. Maybe 12...Kf8 wasn't best and Black could have tried 12...a6 instead. Another idea was 14...h5 with the plan 15.h3 Nh6 16.Nd5 Bd8. It seems like 14...Nf6 was routine and the knight didn't do much there. |
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Jan-19-12
 | | GrahamClayton: That is one serious knight outpost on e6! |
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Aug-13-13
 | | perfidious: <To have a knight planted in your game at K6 is worse than a rusty nail in your knee. - Efim Bogoljubov> http://www.chessquotes.com/topic-kn...
So it was for Black in this game.
Reading the comments above by <King Death>, my play indeed deserves criticism, as it was entirely too passive-never a good trait whilst playing Curdo. |
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Dec-23-16 | | Conrad93: It seems like the best line is 12...Nf6 13. h3 (to stop 13...Bg4) a6 14. Nc3 d5! 15. d3 Be6.  click for larger viewWhite can play 16. Nd4 Qd7 17. Nxe6 Qxe6 18. Qxe6 fxe6 19. cxd5 exd5 20. Kf2 c6  click for larger viewBlack has the better endgame.
P.S. 15. Ne5 Qe6 16. d4 dxc4 17. Kh2 0-0 is about equal. |
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Feb-17-21
 | | keypusher:  click for larger viewFinal position. It's worthwhile for us lesser mortals to see how it would have concluded after 32....Bf8 33.Qg6+: If 33....Kg8, 34.Nxg7, and if ...Rxe1 then 35.Ne8+ followed by Nxf6+. If 33....Kh8, then 34.Ng5!.
The combination of the double attack on the rook on e8 and the attack on the king is killing. |
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Feb-17-21
 | | perfidious: This lesser mortal had had about enough. (laughs) |
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Mar-08-22
 | | FSR: 10...Qg6! is best. Shankland analyzes it in his Chessable Lifetime Repertoire Course on the Berlin. (Since it's a Lifetime Repertoire course, it includes everything White can throw at Black after 1.e4 e5). Then one line is 11.Nh4 Qf6 12.h3 g5! After 13.fxg5, Sam originally gave "13...Qe5+!" I was able to find an improvement for Black . . . |
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Mar-08-22 | | areknames: <10...Qg6! is best> So what happens after 11.Nxc7+ Kd8 12.Nxa8 b6 13.h3 and so on? What's Shankland's evaluation? |
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Mar-08-22
 | | perfidious: I had wondered about that as well and assure you that 10....Qg6 had not, so far as I recall, been something I had envisioned at the board, though I recall taking some time before my actual choice. <FSR>, does Shankland mention this game? |
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Mar-09-22
 | | nizmo11: <FSR: 10...Qg6! is best>
In this Sam's variant, was White's move 10. perhaps Kg3 (instead of 10.Kg1)?
After 10.Kg3, the moves 10...Qg6 11.Nh4 Qf6 12.h3 g5! are easier to understand.
(and there is an improvement after 13.fxg5) |
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Mar-09-22 | | Granny O Doul: Nice catch, Nizmo. Now, about your handle.... |
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Mar-09-22 | | areknames: Thanks <nizmo11>, that explains a lot! And yes, there is indeed an improvement ;) |
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Mar-09-22
 | | keypusher: <areknames: <10...Qg6! is best> So what happens after 11.Nxc7+ Kd8 12.Nxa8 b6 13.h3 and so on? What's Shankland's evaluation?> SF's evaluation is about +6. I think <nizmo11> is right about 10.Kg3. After 10.Kg1 in the game looks like <perfidious>'s move was best. |
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Mar-09-22 | | RookFile: Everybody has their own way of playing but in a double e pawn opening with black I never put my bishop on b7. The counterplay just doesn't seem to work out and you're more or less a piece down. |
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Mar-10-22
 | | FSR: Sorry, I was confused. Yes, I meant 10.Kg3 Qg6! No, <perfidious>, Shankland doesn't mention this game. He just gives 10...Qc6! (as you played) and says Black "should be a bit better thanks to his bishops." Not too enlightening. |
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Mar-13-22
 | | FSR: 12...Kf8? was bad, as was the later fianchetto of the queen bishop, chewing on White's pawn on d5. Black should be aiming to castle kingside, or perhaps putting the king on d8 in some lines. Stockfish likes 12...Nf6 best. If then 13.d4, 13...Bg4 14.d5 Bxf3 wrecks White's pawn structure. If White stops that with 13.h3, Stockfish loves the pawn sac 13...a6 14.Nc3 b5. If Black can open the position for his bishops, White's position can quickly become a smoldering ruin. |
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