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|Aug-18-18|| ||jith1207: I think talking about worse when it can be a lot better is actually worse.|
|Aug-18-18|| ||optimal play: <jith1207> It certainly wasn't just that one statement which positioned <Dr Winston OBoogie> as the no.1 culprit.|
That was simply one example of his conduct on Daniel's page, and which I addressed specifically in response to your query about "phony tears".
If the initiator was trolling prior, then it was in another forum which I was not specifically addressing in this report, and which shouldn't have been dragged over to Daniel's forum anyway.
You did not come across as someone who tried to invalidate my efforts and I welcome your queries, and hope I at least clarified some issues.
|Aug-18-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: <optimal play:
<diceman: Hey, with any luck we can make Optimal's page look like DF's Page!>
Only if I suddenly drop dead!>
Let's hope it doesn't come to that :)
|Aug-18-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: <jith1207: Ok, to each to his own opinion. I know both are guilty, but I'm surprised that one statement made him #1 but pointless fighting by BP for a number of pages got him only #4.|
I don't know their history... >
User: Dr Winston OBoogie is an English convict who has had multiple user accounts deleted because of his egregious rules violations. Two accounts that I know of with certainty are <Mark Finan> and <usernotfound>. If you run across a comment from either of those, click on the user name and you will see: <Sorry, there is no such user "usernotfound" on record.>
He flamed Daniel Freeman for years, and caused DF more problems than most everyone else combined.
He is emotionally unstable and prone to vitriolic personal attacks at the slightest perceived slight, real or imaginary.
|Aug-18-18|| ||JimNorCal: <tga>. Thanks for the history. Nice to know. I wonder if ChessHigherCat is another if his monikers. Similar M.O.|
|Aug-18-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: < JimNorCal: <tga>. Thanks for the history. Nice to know. I wonder if ChessHigherCat is another if his monikers. Similar M.O.>|
I doubt it. Mark never showed much interest in chess games, and still doesn't.
Even with an engine I doubt he could produce the kinds of posts about chess that <CHC> makes.
|Aug-18-18|| ||JimNorCal: True. To be honest, I despise CHC but I acknowledge that he posted useful chess-related comments.|
|Aug-18-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: Kibitzer's Café (kibitz #236842)|
|Aug-19-18|| ||Travis Bickle: Thx Woodie, for your heartfelt post.. To a decent an interesting person!|
|Aug-19-18|| ||jith1207: <TGA>: I have come across these profiles in the past and know little bit of tat history.|
I still don't think these initial posts didn't have to turn out to be an exchange that would last for multiple pages, especially considering the time and place. Anyway, I had been lurking for many years before I became premium member and regular commenter in this site, but yet I had never paid much attention earlier to the different profiles in this site. So I understand you guys have seen a lot more, and hope you are doing a better job of jury about that.
|Aug-27-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: Kenneth S Rogoff (kibitz #346132)|
Good one! I owe you a beer.
|Sep-03-18|| ||optimal play: My post hereunder was deleted from the forum of <technical draw>:|
<Sep-03-18 optimal play: <Gregor Samsa Mendel: ... I'm also not sure that there's a single Christian worldview regarding the origins of languages.>
Are you kidding?
There's hardly a single Christian worldview regarding anything!
<Do all Christians accept the accounts given in Genesis regarding the origins of languages as literal truths?>
Of course not!
It's only the biblical fundamentalists who think the story of the Tower of Babel is an historical event.
We were discussing this topic over on <playground player>'s forum recently.
playground player chessforum (kibitz #15615)
Also <Christian Fundamentalist> is not an accurate expression. You're thinking of "Biblical Fundamentalist".
Mainstream Christianity does not take everything in the Bible as historical fact.
Many reputable biologists, geologists and astronomers are Christians, and they don't think the universe is only 6,000 years old!>
I think it's a good post by me.
It wasn't the only post deleted, since all the posts in that discussion were removed, so I don't take it personally, but it seems a like an odd thing to do.
|Sep-03-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <It wasn't the only post deleted, since all the posts in that discussion were removed, so I don't take it personally, but it seems a like an odd thing to do.>|
Hi, <optimal play>.
Yes, I agree. I admit being a bit disappointed to find my post deleted also. It's not a very nice thing to do. It comes across a little petty and rude, to be honest. But, his forum, his rules..
|Sep-03-18|| ||optimal play: <Count Wedgemore> Yes, it was beginning to look like an interesting conversation was taking shape,
but it seems one or more of the comments stepped on his toes.|
|Sep-09-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: Well, <OP>, look on the bright side. You haven't been banned!|
|Sep-09-18|| ||TheFocus: <thegoodanarchist: Well, <OP>, look on the bright side. You haven't been banned!>|
Ah, so you are still kicking!! I thought you and <Bobster> may have gotten caught in the banning. Waiting to see if <jcb> survived.
|Sep-09-18|| ||optimal play: I see from <Big Pawn>'s forum header that he has been suspended!?|
He then states that he has been "censored" permanently!?
However, I noticed a post from <chessgames.com> in the Kibitzer's Cafe:
<Sep-09-18 chessgames.com: <Nisjesram: <Richard Taylor: Are Big Pawn and company to get a sound spanking?>
Yes. <big pawn> already got permanently banned.>
Don't make too many assumptions...>
That cryptic comment from <chessgames.com ... Don't make too many assumptions ...> seems to indicate that we should not assume our good ol' mate from Massachoossess has been permanently banned.
I personally would be very surprised if the new management took any notice of a certified psycho like Mark Finan and acted on his advice to permanently ban BP or anybody.
More likely they have given our mate a short holiday to cool off and settle down, but BP's indignation may have caused him to close his forum in a huff, and left that message in a fit of bad temper.
Everybody can clearly see that convicted-criminal Mark Finan is mentally-disturbed and obsessive to the point of insanity.
His sole object as a member of chessgames is to wreck this once-fine website.
His conduct in the aftermath of Daniel's passing was atrocious, and he took full advantage of this unfortunate situation to cause as much damage as possible all over the site, and particularly on Daniel's own player's page:
optimal play chessforum (kibitz #1601)
For myself, I have always sought to adhere to the posting guidelines of this site, and make whatever contribution I could to its development and advancement, for example:
<Feb-12-13 chessgames.com chessforum chessgames.com: <optimal play> asks "Is it possible to make the Tournament Index chronologically correct?" A good point. As things stand, the Tournament table has a field called simply "year". To fix the problem is just a matter of straightforward programming work: we have to turn the year field into a full YYYY-MM-DD date and then set the dates what they are supposed to be, whenever possible. The only reason why it doesn't work that way right now is that in the past, "year" was sufficient for our purposes. Now that we have the Tournament Index we need finer granularity. Thanks for pointing that out.>
See also my game collection, of which seven were included in the Tournament Index.
In contrast, Mark Finan has contributed absolutely nothing of value to this website.
In fact, he has sought to destroy it for no other reason than that he is evil and vindictive.
He causes chaos and enmity all over this site.
Daniel Freeman (may God rest his soul) was far too lenient with this psychotic criminal.
I managed to get Finan suspended on at least one occasion, but only for 24 hours.
He had posted one of his typically vile, filthy, obnoxious posts, and when I blew the whistle on him, I noticed the post was gone within 15 minutes and Finan was absent for a whole day. He later complained about being suspended.
It's just a shame that Daniel wasn't tougher with the scumbag, and simply banished him permanently. He might still be alive today.
Of course I was never suspended or even "reprimanded".
Daniel and I didn't have a great deal of contract, but on the few occasions we spoke, I could tell he appreciated my contribution to this site.
Anyway, we'll see how things pan out.
We have the Olympiad coming up and then of course the World Championship, so depending upon how efficiently the new management uploads these matches, I may or may not stick around.
|Sep-10-18|| ||optimal play: I've been reviewing my game collection just to check how many are still "under construction".|
There's quite a few with missing games and incomplete introductions, but overall I think I've compiled a pretty good collection thus far.
I generally complete the introductions when I have all or most of the games, but I became a bit discouraged in submitting games when they took so long to be uploaded. Hopefully that situation will improve.
Anyway, I'm honoured that seven were considered important enough for inclusion in the Tournament Index Collection.
Rosenthal - Zukertort (1880)
Blackburne - Zukertort (1881)
Australian Championship (1887)
Australian Championship (1888)
Wallace - Crane (1893)
Wallace - Esling (1895)
Wallace - Hodgson (1896)
It's pleasing to be able to make a small contribution to the site.
With a few exceptions, my game collection is comprised of colonial Australian matches and tournaments, although I've included some interesting games all the way up to 1987.
|Sep-11-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: < TheFocus:
<<<thegoodanarchist: Well, <OP>, look on the bright side. You haven't been banned!>>>
Ah, so you are still kicking!! I thought you and <Bobster> may have gotten caught in the banning. Waiting to see if <jcb> survived.>
Thank you kindly for your interest in my internet welfare! I do appreciate it!
For now, I will say no more about this.
|Sep-12-18|| ||optimal play: <For now, I will say no more about this.>|
You sound like you are privy to inside information.
Anyway, I'm sure <tga> wouldn't get banned.
If that ever happened then there would be something terribly wrong.
|Sep-12-18|| ||optimal play: I just noticed my following posts were deleted from the forum of <Phony Benoni>:|
<Sep-11-18 optimal play: <offramp: ... On my recent 6-monthly visit to Rogoff I had the temerity to inquire what an "OMV" was. I was told with startling celerity to <read the @#$%* forum!!>>
Don't feel bad. Not everyone's cut out for the rough & tumble of Rogoff.
People with delicate sensibilities are advised to use "read only" mode when on that page.
Anyway, to answer your question, OMV stands for Objective Moral Values.>
<Sep-11-18 optimal play: <offramp: <optimal play: <offramp: ... On my recent 6-monthly visit to Rogoff I had the temerity to inquire what an "OMV" was. I was told with startling celerity to <read the @#$%* forum!!>> Don't feel bad. Not everyone's cut out for the rough & tumble of Rogoff.>
I just don't know much about the man, so I don't feel qualified to post. I know he was a good player, and I believe he was one of Ronald Reagan's speechwriters. I assume he also made a statement at some time about Objective Moral Values, whatever they are. Anyway, if I think of anything to say about him I shall post it there. The great thing is, I can post there whenever I want! I am not banned or anything!>
Good for you!
So the next time you post something on Rogoff, don't run away just because someone is mean to you.
Stand your ground, even if you get a bloodied nose.>
I notice the intervening post by <offramp> was also deleted.
<Phony Benoni> posted: <Sep-11-18 Phony Benoni: OK, guys, that crossed the line as far as I'm concerned. Personal attacks, no matter how mild, are not welcome here.>
That's a rather perplexing comment, and I can only assume that subsequent to my last post, <offramp> posted a personal attack which I didn't see?!
I would be very surprised at that since <offramp> certainly doesn't seem like the sort of fellow who would post a personal attack, and nothing in my two posts consisted of a personal attack, so I'm rather confused as to why they were deleted.
Of course <Phony Benoni> can delete anything he wants on his own forum without justification, and perhaps he was bored with the back and forth between myself and <offramp> and just didn't want it on his forum anymore.
Anyway, I don't take these things personally, but it seemed like an odd thing to delete such inoffensive comments on the pretext that they contained personal attacks!?
I wasn't offended by anything <offramp> posted and I'm sure he wouldn't have been offended by any of my comments.
|Sep-12-18|| ||optimal play: Just further to the above, I recall interacting with <Phony Benoni> and <offramp> very briefly on only one separate occasion each.|
With <Phony Benoni>, we shared a common interest in Abraham Kupchik and the earliest success of black playing the common Sicilian 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6
Abraham Kupchik (kibitz #22)
With <offramp>, we both enjoyed the hilarity of <HeMateMe>'s laughable attempts to analyze a Portisch-Fischer game:
Portisch vs Fischer, 1966 (kibitz #59)
So they're both good blokes and hopefully I can stay on good terms with the both of them.
|Sep-12-18|| ||offramp: NO! No! No! No! No! I didn't post anything after you!|
I'm pretty sure PB was just being cautious. There was nothing bad but he wanted his forum, quite rightly, clear of the <BP> overspill.
There are no problems whatever from me, <optimal play>!
That WAS funny, that F V Portisch game!
|Sep-12-18|| ||optimal play: <offramp> I was certain that you wouldn't have posted anything that even remotely sounded like a personal attack, since your reputation on chessgames is above reproach. But since I didn't make any personal attacks, even mild one's, I was perplexed by PB's comment.|
Anyway, I'm glad we're okay.
And maybe you should drop by Rogoff more than twice a year since your witty, insightful, knowledgeable comments would make a great addition to that forum.
And you don't even have to talk about Ken Rogoff, all you need are strong opinions and a hide as thick as a rhinoceros!
|Sep-13-18|| ||offramp: Thanks very much, <OP>. I did not know people felt like that about me! You have made me extremely happy!|
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