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|Aug-30-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Aug-31-15|| ||playground player: Meanwhile, our glorious "president" goes around re-naming major geographical features to further his lying sack of dung Global Warming agenda, while the Worst Lady is back at it, making sure school kids have unappetizing pap for lunch. Note: the president's wife has no more lawful authority to do this than you or I do. But who bothers with laws anymore?|
|Aug-31-15|| ||Jim Bartle: This official change is just acknowledging reality, and belatedly at that. The mountain has been called Denali by mountaineers and hikers for forty years or so. The National Park and Preserve has been named Denali since 1980.|
The traditional name of the mountain is Denali. The name McKinley was stuck on it by a gold miner who supported McKinley as a candidate in 1896. It got the name before he was ever president.
|Aug-31-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " He sent me to bring good news to the poor. No prophet is well received in his country "|
|Aug-31-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Sep-01-15|| ||playground player: <Jim Bartle> The point is, who does this clown think he is, arbitrarily changing the names of major geographical features? That's way too Roman Empire for me.|
Next it'll be rivers and mountain ranges named for sleazy Democrat politicians, and Charlie Rangel's picture on the dollar bill.
For more ruling-class frolics,
|Sep-01-15|| ||Justin Flint: <President Obama has decided to rename the tallest mountain in the U.S. Mount Denali, which is its traditional Native American name.|
The move came 40 years after the state <<<requested the change>>> for the 20,320-foot peak, which had been named Mount McKinley in honor of the nation’s 25th president, who was assassinated in office.>
|Sep-01-15|| ||Jim Bartle: < The point is, who does this clown think he is, arbitrarily changing the names of major geographical features?>|
I don't know if a president really can change the name of a mountain. It does seem odd. The mountain has been predominately known as Denali for many years, is apparently referred that way exclusively in Alaska, the state of Alaska asked for the change years ago, and the protected area it is in is the Denali National Park and Preserve.
<Next it'll be rivers and mountain ranges named for sleazy Democrat politicians, and Charlie Rangel's picture on the dollar bill.>
The changes are reverting to traditional names, and I don't know of any named Mt. Tweed, Mt. Daley or Mt. Eastland.
On the other hand, there seems to be no limit of the number of things named for Ronald Reagan, a sleazy Republican politician if there ever was one.
|Sep-01-15|| ||Jim Bartle: On the other hand, as I noted on that other page, there's a Mt. Kennedy in the Yukon (named in 1965), and right beside Denali, mountains named Hunter, Foraker, Huntington and Deborah. I don't believe those are the traditional Athabascan names.|
|Sep-01-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " I know who you are, you are the Holy One of God "|
|Sep-01-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Sep-01-15|| ||optimal play: <Jim Bartle> <there seems to be no limit of the number of things named for Ronald Reagan, a sleazy Republican politician if there ever was one> Are there any significant American landmarks named after Bonzo? :D|
<playground player> I notice your name is on the Team Black roster for the latest Team Chess Challenge.
If you have time, it would be good to see you pop in now and again to share some of your insights, teammate.
We know all about your politics, but it would be great to see some of your chess expertise in this game.
And at the end we can share in the victory!
|Sep-01-15|| ||Jim Bartle: <optimal play> Geographically, only Mt. Reagan in New Hampshire, as far as I know. Manmade things, many, mostly notably Reagan Airport in Washington DC.|
|Sep-01-15|| ||optimal play: <Jim Bartle> What about Bonzo the monkey to whom Reagan was a supporting actor?|
Isn't there an aircraft carrier floating around somewhere called the USS Bonzo?
I'm sure there must be a Mount Bonzo somewhere in the Rockys!
We know how America loves to honour its heroes!
In any event, I think Ronald Reagan deserves to have a garbage scow name after him as a tribute to his presidency, even if for the whole eight years he thought he was on a Hollywood film set making another B-movie, "Bonzo goes to Washington"!
|Sep-01-15|| ||Jim Bartle: I give Reagan more credit than that, even given you're kidding. An aircraft carrier named for him is well deserved.|
I read a book called "Way Out There in the Blue" by Frances FitzGerald which, though showing the ridiculousness of Star Wars, presented the Reagan Administration's arms negotiations with the USSR to be serious and generally positive.
|Sep-01-15|| ||optimal play: <Jim Bartle> <An aircraft carrier named for him is well deserved.> Their motto is "We begin bombing in five minutes"! :D|
Seriously though, regarding the renaming of landmarks, we've been doing that for years...
Ayres Rock became Uluru
The Olgas became Kata Tjuta
Kings Canyon became Watarrka
Or, rather than "became", perhaps more appropriate to say "reverted to" their traditional aboriginal names.
Makes more sense than having significant landmarks named after some obscure undeserving person from the 19th century whose patronage the explorer was just probably seeking.
|Sep-01-15|| ||Jim Bartle: In the late 70s there were a couple of Italian expeditions to the northern Cordillera Blanca here in Peru. A number of secondary peaks either didn't have names or the names weren't well known. |
So the Italians produced a map with Mt. Juan XXIII, Mt. Torino and the like. Very irritating. Fortunately the names never stuck.
And the major glaciers in the range were named for some reason by a leading promoter/jounalist. He named one of them after the owner of the newspaper he worked for.
|Sep-02-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " To other cities also I must announce the good news , because that is why I was sent "|
|Sep-02-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Sep-02-15|| ||playground player: <optimal play> How can I resist an invitation like that? I can't promise anything, though--my workload has greatly increased.|
<Esteemed Colleagues> In truth, many places in America have kept their aboriginal names. My home state of New Jersey is full of them. Nobody minds. Metuchen, Manasquan, Manalapan, Metedoconk, Squankum... I could list them all day.
But do we really, truly want the names of all our major geographical features to revert back to what they were 500 years ago?
What I really object to is a)virtually anything Obama says or does (I'm being honest with you), b) the whole idea of any president being allowed to rename a geographic feature when he feels like it, and c) the whole purpose of this shabby, evil man's trip to Alaska, to whip up Global Warming hysteria in hopes of vastly expanding the powers of an already swollen, metastasized federal government.
Y'know, I do realize that mountains and lakes and rivers had names before European explorers came along and "discovered" them. But I consider the exploration and mapping of the world a noble and heroic work, which remained for Europeans to do because no one else ever showed the slightest interest in doing it. When Chen Ho visited East Africa during the Ming Dynasty, for instance, the rulers of China, when he returned, disbanded his fleet, broke up the ships, and buried the information he'd acquired. This is why there is no Mt. Chen Ho anywhere. (If you don't like the spelling of the admiral's name, too bad--that's the way I learned it.)
The world would be a very, very different place today without the efforts of those old explorers and missionaries who set out from Western Christendom and, among other, more strenuous activities, started naming things. I believe it would be a vastly poorer world.
Not that it isn't getting poorer by the hour, since the Western ruling class abandoned Christianity and set itself up as gods...
|Sep-02-15|| ||optimal play: <playground player> <I consider the exploration and mapping of the world a noble and heroic work> +1|
We wouldn't be here without those noble and heroic explorers, which is why their exploits are studied in school, and they continue to be honoured and commemorated.
Certainly it would be ludicrous and confusing to change all the names of our landmarks, but in some instances it may be appropriate.
So anyway, how soon after Obama leaves office will they start naming things after him?
Mount Obama, aircraft carrier USS Obama, Obama airport, Obama City, Lake Obama, etc
Come to think of it, isn't New Jersey just the name of a small island off the coast of England, but with "new" in front of it?
Your state needs a change of name!
How about “Obama State”!
With the capital re-named “Obama City”!
And the famous “Obama Boardwalk”!
|Sep-03-15|| ||moronovich: Or "Obama Beach" in Normandie,France ;)|
|Sep-03-15|| ||playground player: <optimal play> Actually, they've already named a few public schools (naturally!) after this community-organizing Marxist ghoul. I think there ought to be some really loathsome disease named after him.|
|Sep-03-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " Leaving everything , they followed him"|
|Sep-03-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
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