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|Mar-23-15|| ||WannaBe: <Jim Bartle> I've got no problem with it, the question is, which state or who is going to propose such plate?|
Secondary question would be, the money raised from such plates, would not be distributed to Al Qaeda or ISIS, because of embargo.
|Mar-23-15|| ||Jim Bartle: Where will the money from Confederate license plates go?|
|Mar-23-15|| ||WannaBe: <Jim Bartle> Probably Sons of Confederate Veterans http://www.scv.org|
|Mar-23-15|| ||optimal play: In your blog 'Flipper for President?' you seem to be equating mandatory voting with personhood for animals!?|
We have mandatory voting but we don't have personhood for animals!
I can't see the connection!?
And why do you refer to President Obama as President *Batteries Not Included?
Can you explain the joke?
|Mar-24-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: "When you have lifted up the Son of Man , then you will understand that I, I AM "|
|Mar-24-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-24-15|| ||playground player: <optimal play> I didn't say there was a connection. It's more in the nature of, "If you think mandatory voting is bad, here's something else they're working on that's worse." The jump from mandatory voting to personhood for dolphins originally comes from the article by Gary DeMar in "Godfather Politics," to which I provided a link.|
I did not mean to imply that Australia is contemplating giving voting rights to animals.
Really, I don't know about Australia, but mandatory voting would be a terrible idea for the USA. It's also something that is diametrically opposed to the intention of the writers of our Constitution.
Let's see... What does history tell us about a great mass of deeply ignorant voters in combination with insanely ambitious individuals with a gift for demogoguery? Polybius, Plutarch--yeah, those are the guys who put our Framers off the idea of pure democracy.
For all I know, it works just fine in Australia. But God forbid it should be installed here.
As to *Batteries Not Included--maybe you're too young to remember getting some great toy for your birthday, or Christmas, only to find you can't play with it because, says the little message on the package that your father or mother didn't notice earlier, *Batteries not Included." And there never seem to be any in the house!
I apply that label to that evil man in the White House because to me his speech and his movements often seem robotic. In all fairness, Hillary Clinton is an even worse orator than he is; but we haven't been getting a steady diet of her every day and night for the past six years.
P.S.: I looked it up, and the penalty for failing to vote, in Australia, is $20. No authority in America would ever be content with so small a fine.
Although they might go so far as to pay Republicans for not voting.
|Mar-24-15|| ||optimal play: <playground player> Please accept my apology for any offence caused to you by my unfortunate attempt at humour on my forum.|
|Mar-25-15|| ||heuristic: your comments on this would be interesting :
|Mar-25-15|| ||Jim Bartle: It doesn't matter whether mandatory voting would be good or bad. It's unconstitutional.|
|Mar-25-15|| ||playground player: <optimal play> It wasn't funny, kimosabe. Apology accepted.|
<heuristic> Thanks for telling me about that interesting book. I may want to buy it and review it.
My first thought, though, is that the process of secularization began in Genesis Chapter 3, when the Serpent seduces Eve with the formula, "Ye shall be as gods." That is Original Sin. That is what it has always been about.
The Bible shows us many, many examples of God's people trying to ditch God. They didn't need an Industrial Revolution to get there.
Even the creation of that devouring monster, the modern state, is hardly new: in the Bible, we find its expression in the likes of Sennacherib, Nebuchadnezzar, and Pilate.
When Jesus asked, "When the Son of Man returns, will he find faith on the earth?" it was more than just a rhetorical question.
And we've had 2,000 years since then to hone our skills as sinners.
|Mar-25-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: The Annunciation|
|Mar-25-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-26-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " Your father Abraham exulted , knowing that he would see my day"|
|Mar-26-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-27-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " They tried to stop him, but he escaped their hands"|
|Mar-27-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-27-15|| ||mistermac: <<Jim Bartle>: It doesn't matter whether mandatory voting would be good or bad. It's unconstitutional.>|
It is NOT Mandatory to vote in Australia, but you have to get your name crossed off the roll of electors, which means you have to take the trouble to obtain voting papers. This means that those who resent "Compulsory" Voting get a chance to say so, and tell the Electoral Commission that they are not very nice people and a waste of time.
I m not sure if Prez O was aware of that.
|Mar-27-15|| ||playground player: <Steamed Colleagues> One of the things that makes me tired:|
A "children's book" celebrating abortion!
|Mar-27-15|| ||optimal play: <mistermac> <It is NOT Mandatory to vote in Australia ...> Wrong!|
According to the Australian Electoral Commission website ...
<under federal electoral law, it is compulsory for all eligible Australian citizens to enrol and vote in federal elections, by-elections and referendums.>
Of course since voting is by secret ballot, you can scrawl "f--- you" across the ballot paper if you want, since nobody is going to know you haven't actually cast a valid vote, but if you simply <get your name crossed off the roll of electors> and then try to walk out of the polling station before actually going through the process of casting a ballot, you'll be seen to be in contravention of the law.
|Mar-28-15|| ||cormier: Gospel: " In order to gather into one the dispersed children of God "|
|Mar-28-15|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-28-15|| ||playground player: <optimal play> As you describe it (I take it for granted your description is accurate), what good is Australia's mandatory voting requirement supposed to do?|
<Steamed Colleagues> The latest from liberals on censorship--
Haven't the rest of us figured out yet that **they** are the only ones allowed to perform censorship?
|Mar-28-15|| ||perfidious: I have but one thing to say regarding the ever-increasing need for censorship by some:|
|Mar-28-15|| ||optimal play: Compulsory Voting
Arguments used in favour of compulsory voting:
•Voting is a civic duty comparable to other duties citizens perform e.g. taxation, compulsory education, jury duty
•Teaches the benefits of political participation
•Parliament reflects more accurately the "will of the electorate"
•Governments must consider the total electorate in policy formulation and management
•Candidates can concentrate their campaigning energies on issues rather than encouraging voters to attend the poll
•The voter isn't actually compelled to vote for anyone because voting is by secret ballot.
Arguments used against compulsory voting:
•It is undemocratic to force people to vote – an infringement of liberty
•The ill informed and those with little interest in politics are forced to the polls
•It may increase the number of "donkey votes"
•It may increase the number of informal votes
•It increases the number of safe, single-member electorates – political parties then concentrate on the more marginal electorates
•Resources must be allocated to determine whether those who failed to vote have "valid and sufficient" reasons.
I personally think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, as do the vast majority of my fellow citizens.
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