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|Mar-02-14|| ||playground player: <Jim Bartle> Well, I'm glad we got that out of the way.|
<Shams> You're welcome to come in here and talk about whatever you please. You and I are poles apart, politically; but the door is always open to you.
<Esteemed Colleagues> I don't want to write anything combative today. So the blog is "A Lesson in Prayer, From a Mouse."
I've had lots of pet mice, and it amazes me, how smart they are. If they lived more than two years or so--say twenty?--they'd be doing a lot more than solving mazes.
|Mar-02-14|| ||cormier: <<<<<1 cor 4:1-5>
Brothers and sisters:
Thus should one regard us: as servants of Christ
and stewards of the mysteries of God.>
Now it is of course required of stewards
that they be found trustworthy.>
It does not concern me in the least
that I be judged by you or any human tribunal;
I do not even pass judgment on myself;
I am not conscious of anything against me,
but I do not thereby stand acquitted;
the one who judges me is the Lord.>
Therefore do not make any judgment before the appointed time,
until the Lord comes,
for he will bring to light what is hidden in darkness
and will manifest the motives of our hearts,
and then everyone will receive praise from God.>
|Mar-02-14|| ||cormier: <<<<<<Gospel> mt 6:24-34>
Jesus said to his disciples:
“No one can serve two masters.>
He will either hate one and love the other,
or be devoted to one and despise the other.
You cannot serve God and mammon.>
“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life,
what you will eat or drink,
or about your body, what you will wear.>
Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Look at the birds in the sky;
they do not sow or reap, they gather nothing into barns,
yet your heavenly Father feeds them.>
Are not you more important than they?>
Can any of you by worrying add a single moment to your life-span?>
Why are you anxious about clothes?>
Learn from the way the wild flowers grow.>
They do not work or spin.>
But I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor
was clothed like one of them.>
If God so clothes the grass of the field,
which grows today and is thrown into the oven tomorrow,
will he not much more provide for you, O you of little faith?>
So do not worry and say, ‘What are we to eat?’>
or ‘What are we to drink?’or ‘What are we to wear?’>
All these things the pagans seek.>
Your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.>
But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness,
and all these things will be given you besides.>
Do not worry about tomorrow; tomorrow will take care of itself.>
Sufficient for a day is its own evil.”>
|Mar-03-14|| ||playground player: <Esteemed Colleagues> Here is a fresh and scary example of how "equal rights"--in this case, the supposed rights of children--are used to governments as a club to bludgeon freedom to death.|
Scotland's Parliament has voted to assign each and every child in Scotland to a government "overseer." For details, news link, and comment, it's on my blog today.
If you don't want to visit the blog, here is a link to the story.
I can't help wondering why the people of Scotland put up with this. Do they really like their rulers--it would be silly to keep calling them "public servants"--treating them all as likely child abusers?
|Mar-03-14|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-04-14|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-04-14|| ||cormier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAMP...|
|Mar-04-14|| ||playground player: <Esteemed Colleagues> To launch my new book, <The Palace> (#6 in my <Bell Mountain> series), I've been invited back to Tim Wildmon's American Family Assn. internet TV show on Monday, March 24 (date subject to change). Last time, our Esteemed Colleague <You Rang> estimated I reached an audience of 40,000. So, if you can put up with my voice for 10 or 15 minutes, tune in.|
Note to <hms123> I didn't even have to threaten AFA this time--just told them about the new book, and they said yes. That's progress, no?
|Mar-04-14|| ||hms123: <pgp> Absolutely! Good luck. I will try to catch the show if I am near a computer then.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||optimal play: <playground player> <... tune in.> What time? I'll have to check timeanddate.com|
|Mar-05-14|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-05-14|| ||playground player: <hms123>, <optimal play> The interview is scheduled for Monday, March 24, at 11:15 a.m. EST, live. If any changes are made, I'll post them here.|
I hope they don't move it up, because I want <The Palace> to be on sale by then. It's at the printer's now, and then we've got to set it up on amazon.com.
I much appreciate your good wishes!
|Mar-05-14|| ||cormier: http://www.ensignmessage.com/archiv...|
|Mar-06-14|| ||cormier: http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings...|
|Mar-06-14|| ||cormier: very interresting ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZDT... 13 minutes|
|Mar-06-14|| ||playground player: <Esteemed Colleagues> So what happens when a nation's efforts "to balance conflicting rights" leads to a conflict between two legally privileged classes of citizens?|
Read about this Toronto case from 2012, just now settled out of court--with a confidentiality agreement to keep the public from ever knowing what happened. My blog post today contains a news link, which in turn contains several other links that are very informative.
For those who don't want to bother with my blog, but would simply like to read the news story,
Yes, the Muslim barber vs. the aggressive lesbian--under Canadian law, the two most highly privileged classes. The irresistible force meets the immoveable object.
|Mar-06-14|| ||benjinathan: This sentence from that article is just dumb:
<"It’s my guess that pressure was put on McGregor to drop the complaint for fear of protests and possible reprisals from the large Muslim population in Toronto".>
I used to get my hair cut from tha barbershop- it is a block from where I work. But since they refused her service I stopped going there.
|Mar-06-14|| ||benjinathan: And FYI- here is an Ontario human rights tribunal decision where a Christian was discriminated against by a Muslim:|
Sorry- you may have to cut and paste the URL to find the case if you are interested in reading it.
|Mar-06-14|| ||benjinathan: And here is a HRTO decision where a complaint made by a Muslim gets dismissed:|
|Mar-06-14|| ||benjinathan: And one where a complaint made by a lesbian got dismissed:|
I guess your statement that "No Muslim has ever lost a case before a “human rights” tribunal. No homosexual or lesbian has, either."
may have been incorrect.
|Mar-06-14|| ||playground player: <benjinathan> I have been covering Canadian "human rights" cases for 10 years. I have interviewed many of defendants, some of the plaintiffs, and some of the "human rights" officials.|
The cases you have cited, I had never heard of. I accept them as real, although rare. So I suppose I can't say no Muslim nor lesbian has ever lost a "human rights" case. Let me amend that to "almost never."
The notion that a government agency can order an individual to undergo "sensitivity training," to make his mind right, I find particularly odious. Especially in light of the fact that it's the government that decides what the right opinion shall be--a decision based on whoever is dominant politically at the time.
Do you believe that people should be ordered to do things that violate their most deeply held religious beliefs?
|Mar-06-14|| ||benjinathan: <The cases you have cited, I had never heard of. I accept them as real, although rare. So I suppose I can't say no Muslim nor lesbian has ever lost a "human rights" case. Let me amend that to "almost never.">|
<PP> You should be more honest with yourself. The HRTO (one of at least 12 human rights tribunals in canda) deal with thousands of complaints a year. You have no idea how many muslims or gays win or lose. I know I don't and I am very familiar with the Tribunal.
As for your "almost never" statement-
The reality is that each case is adjudicated on its own merits but the vast majority of them (like the Terminal Barber case) are settled without a hearing. If a muslim or gay person has no case, soemone will tell them that and there is a good chance their case will never go to hearing and be settled or woithdrawn. Only a small percentage of cases filed at the HRTO involve religion or sexual orientation grounds. If you are right (and, like you, I have no idea whether you are) the stats are skewed by the settlements/withdrawls.
The vast majority of cases filed at the HRTO receive no publicity whatsoever, so it is not surprising that you have never heard of the decisions I cited or any others besides the few that make it to the newspaper.
I take the last two paragraphs together and answer them this way- when someone opens a business in Ontario (and especially the City of Toronto) they ought to understand that there are rules that govern the way they do business. These rules include complying with human rights and other laws. But in the end the instances where someone is "required" to do things that violate religious beliefs would be rare- for example, there is no religious belief I am aware of that prohibits a business from baking a wedding cake for a gay couple.
On the other hand, the barber case would have been interetsing had it gone to hearing.
Finally, I should say that in my capacity I think it likely I have indirectly made such orders. For example I have decided cases where I have found that Phillidelphians do not have to pay union dues and cases where I have found that they do. So I guess in the latter case they would either have to pay the dues or quit their job. Although it is ultimately their decision.
|Mar-06-14|| ||benjinathan: <PP> Sorry, it was not my intention to swamp your page, but out of curiosity I went to the HRTO section of Canlii (where I found those cases) and typed in Muslim as a search term. A number of cases came up and I quickly reviewed some of them.|
The simple fact is that a number of complaints filed by muslims are in fact dismissed. The following constitued about half the cases I looked at in five minutes. Even that does not indicate a 50% success rate since among the other decisions are various procedural rulings.
|Mar-06-14|| ||benjinathan: one last thing- really.
The Ontario human rights system has changed substantially in the past 10 years.
|Mar-06-14|| ||OhioChessFan: In other Canadian news........
<A 2-year-old has been suspended from daycare because she brought a cheese sandwich along with her. >
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