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Nov-20-15
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  Annie K.: <NeverAgain: <Széim on you ...>>

Heh, very close, but I think you mean 'Séim on you'! ;)

OK, Biographers, next Hungarian lesson:

<zs is not sz>

(There will be a surprise exam one of these days!)

So now you all know that in any Hungarian name, 'sz' should be pronounced 's'. Good, but I had better not catch you trying to pronounce the Polgar sisters' original names as 'Susa' and 'Sofia'!

They are Zsuzsa and Zsófia (just consider that vowel a 'long o' for now...), and 'zs' is not to be confused with 'sz'.

'Zs', also a two-letter symbol for one phoneme, is to be pronounced... hmm, I've been informed that most of you will know how to pronounce Zsa Zsa Gabor, so that's how. :p

In case you don't, it's the sound English speakers usually denote as 'zh', pronounced like the "s" in 'treasure'.

Oh, and btw, if you see the letters 'cs', in names like 'Csaba Balogh'? They are to be pronounced as 'ch'. So it's "Chaba".

OK, that's it for today, take two aspirin and lie down for a bit. ;)

Nov-21-15  TheFocus: Thank you <Annie K.>! Good to know.
Nov-22-15  thegoodanarchist: <Annie K.: Heh, ok, Szén...

<zanz> yes, I'm a native Hungarian speaker.>

You are a Polgar sister in disguise?

Nov-24-15  Stalwart: I wrote a chess book and put it up for free at

bterranlong.wix.com/whitemates

and it contains ~200 microbiographies of the more famous players over the last five hundred years with one or more recorded games ending in a forced mate. I am hoping some of you experts will take a look at it and leave comments on the website to help me refine the accuracy of my assertions. Thank you kindly, Terran

Nov-25-15
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  offramp: F Alexander vs G A Thomas, 1919

<Ulhumbrus> has very kindly added Capablanca's (and Thomas's) notes to this game in the kibitzing section. Could someone intertwine the notes with the game score?

ALSO that game has in its heading <London-ch corr (1919)>. But Capablanca says it was played in the "championship of the City of London Chess Club in the winter of 1919-1920."

Nov-25-15  zanzibar: <Stalwart> why is the pdf for your book 1.1Gb long?

Here's a link which works, which I found on <chess.com>:

http://bterranlong.wix.com/whitemates

Did you put pictures of a real board for all 480(?) puzzles?

I'm distrustful of downloading it. First of all, 1.1Gb is too big for a normal book. Second, 1.1Gb is too big for Google Drive to do a virus scan.

Too bad - it looks like you're really researched it:

http://bterranlong.wix.com/whitemat...

Nov-25-15  zanzibar: <offramp> RE: annotations.

That's a lot of work, twining the moves and commenting together into a PGN from the intertwined comments.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images...

(Another hint... for the cafe quiz btw)

Nov-25-15  zanzibar: A question for Biographers...

Jozsef Szen (kibitz #33)

where I asked what book was the source for Szen's photograph?

No answer there, but on the outside chance I'll ask here as well.

Nov-25-15
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  offramp: <Stalwart: I wrote a chess book and put it up for free at bterranlong.wix.com/whitemates

and it contains ~200 microbiographies...>

...And it is 1.1Gb.

Nov-29-15
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  egilarne: A far better picture of Simen Agdestein is available at Wikipedia Commmons.
Dec-03-15  zanzibar: We should make a list of players whose pictures are better on Wiki... bet it would be rather more on the longish than shortish side.

* * * * *

What's the story with modern tournaments? Or, as some might say, contemporary tournaments?

I ask because I was looking for a game from a major tournament - <Dubai Open (2014)>.

The game was missing, understandably, since even the TWIC version of the tournament is apparently missing some games.

But <CG> is not only missing the game I was looking for, <it's missing the entire tournament>!

This isn't an entirely minor tournament, as evidenced by the fact that <CG> has deemed other years worthy of inclusion:

Tournament Index search: "dubai"

So, what's the story?!

* * * * *

TWIC page dedicated to the tournament (w 351 game download):

http://www.theweekinchess.com/chess...

(ChessBase credit TWIC for their version btw -

http://en.chessbase.com/post/edouar...)

FIDE lists the money winners here:

https://www.fide.com/component/cont...

The most complete xtab for the tournament appears to be found here:

http://www.chess-results.com/tnr130...

at <chess-results.com>.

Dec-15-15
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  Phony Benoni: After a four-month hiatus, Nick Pope has added some new excavations at Chess Archaeology:

http://www.chessarch.com/journal/jo...

Dec-15-15  TheFocus: <jnpope> must be one of the busiest men in chess history preservation!!

Thank you, Mr. Pope!

Dec-20-15
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  offramp: Spassky - Keres Candidates Quarterfinal (1965)

<"Spassky recovered from this loss to lead 3.5 - 2 after five games...">.

I think it's 3.5-1.5.

Dec-20-15
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  Tabanus: <But <CG> is not only missing the game I was looking for, <it's missing the entire tournament>!>

Add it yourself. The purpose of this forum is not only to file complaints.

Dec-20-15
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  offramp: Thank you, whoever responded to my last message. Very quick, as usual!
Dec-20-15
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  MissScarlett: <We should make a list of players whose pictures are better on Wiki...>

If you're looking for something constructive to do with your/our time over the festive period, I suggest a better idea would be for us to start compiling lists of lost/missing games, grouped by both individual tournaments/matches and leading players. It could be a valuable aid in getting a grip on those gaps in the DB that might potentially be filled, and determining which games are seemingly lost to posterity. Stumbling upon long-forgotten simul games is one thing, hunting down some prized missing game a la Simon Wiesenthal, quite another.

Dec-20-15
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  offramp: I don't call it the Festive Period. I call it Christmas time.
Dec-21-15
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  Domdaniel: <framp> - < I call it Christmas time.> And other people call it the festive period. You are not, I trust, implying that they're *wrong*?

Me, I call it 'late December'.

Dec-22-15
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  Tabanus: Some months ago, <crawbf5> nominated his Game Collection: Prague 1946. I voted no because the round dates were off by one day. This was corrected (for all the games), but <crawbf5> did not renominate, and has not been posting since August. So a Christmas present at Game Collection Voting.
Dec-22-15  thomastonk: Game Collection: Prague 1946: I also voted <no> back then, but partly for another reason. The introduction contained and still contains very much general stuff, but comparable little specific tournament information. I posted something here, say the prizes, but this was ignored. I would now vote <yes>, if some changes could be made once the tournament is accepted.
Dec-22-15
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  Tabanus: <tt> I can add the extra info.

If I can find it again! Which I probably will. But I'll give <crawfb5> a chance to add it first.

Dec-22-15  thomastonk: <Tabanus: I can add the extra info.> Thank you!

<If I can find it again!> My first post on this subject was Biographer Bistro, and we had here some more discussion later on.

Dec-22-15
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  offramp: <Domdaniel: <framp> - < I call it Christmas time.> And other people call it the festive period. You are not, I trust, implying that they're *wrong*? Me, I call it 'late December'.>

I don't like appearing pusillanimous. I call Christmas-time Christmas-time.

I saw a sign on London Underground today: Festive Opening Times.

What makes an opening time festive?

Dec-22-15  zanzibar: RE: <festive opening times>

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014...

<What makes an opening time festive?>

Seems self-explanatory.

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