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| Jun-10-12 | | fref: First?
Good start for Yidliz. |
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| Jun-10-12 | | redwhitechess: hail Yildiz , the always invited Turk girl, http://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?l... >> do more homeworks plz ;p |
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| Jun-11-12 | | siamesedream: http://kazan2012.fide.com/index.php |
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| Jun-11-12 | | waustad: I don't see a link from the official site to regulations. Are they using anything like the anti-draw rules that caused forfeits (Mamedjarov?) a while ago. If so, what would the Kosintseva sisters do? Playing the same draw for the 15th time would likely be called pre-arranged. |
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| Jun-11-12 | | dumbgai: How does someone who's never been ranked in the world top 100 keep getting repeatedly invited to the GP (for several years running, now)? http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?... |
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| Jun-11-12 | | dumbgai: I know the men's GP has also had a few lower-rated guys like Al-Modiahki who participated as a sponsor's choice, but they were more or less one-and-done and were never considered serious contenders. But Yildiz seems to get invited to every single one of these like her name is Kosintseva. It's like FIDE is so desperate to groom her into a star that they're blind to the reality that she's just not on the same level as the legitimate contenders. |
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| Jun-11-12 | | blade2012: My usual two cents on 'Scacchi Internazionali'
http://biker60.wordpress.com/2012/0... |
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| Jun-11-12 | | whiteshark: Quite nice article, <blade2012>! Keep up your fine work.
:D |
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| Jun-11-12 | | whiteshark: One question - why is Hou Yifan as reigning World Champion playing in the challenger qualification tournaments? |
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Jun-11-12
 | | ketchuplover: Perhaps she wants to stay sharp. |
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Jun-12-12
 | | HeMateMe: It would appear from recent events that Yifan is not talanted enough to play in the mens tournaments. At least, not 2600 level tournaments. She lost today to someone rated around 2300, 2400, the turkish player. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | SimonWebbsTiger: @<HMM>
I beg to differ.
Cast your mind back to January and the Gibraltar Open. She tied for first with Nigel Short but lost out in the tie break against Nigel. Along the way, Hou beat Judit Polgar. I think she has to play the male events to develop her talent. btw, although not good play from the young Chinese lady, she could have won against Yildiz at one point. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | polarmis: Live broadcast with Houdini analysis:
http://kazan2012.live.whychess.org/ |
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| Jun-12-12 | | malathiswami: The Grand Prix is a tournament cycle in itself, in addition to being used to determine the challenger. The rules allow federations that host events in the cycle to nominate a player each. TCF always hosts at least one, and nominates Yildiz. All the rules are on http://grandprix.fide.com. I am also under the impression that the championship is determined alternately by tournament and matchplay format, so Yifan Hou may no longer be the champion by the end of the cycle, hence it makes no sense to exclude her from the Grand Prix. Anyone know if this is true? |
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Jun-13-12
| | HeMateMe: Is this a different structure than men's chess? Does the female champion not wait for a challenger, but instead must qualify every year, or every two years? I think in women's chess they make the champion qualify. Apparently they feel it is good for the sport. |
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Jun-13-12
 | | Natalia Pogonina: The Grand Prix system has been flawed for years. Let's take a look at the list of participants: The 10 qualifiers as per regulations (listed below) are: 01. Hou, Yifan (World Champion 2010)
02. Ruan, Lufei (finalist world championship 2010)
03. Koneru, Humpy (semi-finalist world championship 2010)
04. Zhao, Xue (semi-finalist world championship 2010)
05. Kosintseva, Tatiana (by rating 2566,00 / Jul 2010 & Jan 2011)
06. Stefanova, Antoaneta (by rating 2553,00 / Jul 2010 & Jan 2011)
07. Kosintseva, Nadezhda (by rating 2551,50 / Jul 2010 & Jan 2011)
08. Muzychuk, Anna (by rating 2528,00 / Jul 2010 & Jan 2011)
09. Lahno, Kateryna (by rating 2526,50 / Jul 2010 & Jan 2011)
10. Cmilyte, Viktorija (by rating 2526,50 / Jul 2010 & Jan 2011) 6 nominees from the organisers of each tournament:
11. Ekaterina Kovalevskaya (Rostov)
12. Ju Wenjun (Shenzhen)
13. Alexandra Kosteniuk (Nalchik)
14. Alisa Galiamova (Kazan)
15. Elina Danielian (Jermuk)
16. Betul Cemre Yildiz (Istanbul)
2 nominees of the FIDE President
17. Zhu Chen
18. Batkhuyag Munguntuul
Summarizing, only 10 players qualified for it, while 8 are included because someone (a sponsor/FIDE President) likes them. That is 45% of the field. And they call this a fair way of determining the Challenger? :) More like "pay to win", as gamers call it. |
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| Jun-13-12 | | abhishikt: Live rating: http://chesspro.ru/guestnew/looknul... Hou has dropped to third place below Anna Muzychuk, who joins the 2600 club. |
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| Jun-13-12 | | Kinghunt: Hou lost again today, this time to Victoria Cmilyte. She's been really out of form for several months now. |
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Jun-13-12
| | HeMateMe: Thanks, <Natalie P.> Apparently, FIDE feels that it is good to have the womens world champion out there playing the very best in the qualifying tournaments. I think somehow Hou Yifan should be seeded directly into a later group. Preparing for a WC match must take a lot of physical and mental energy, and she should get a break in line with that time and effort put in. Certainly no one would try and force Anand to jump right into the the men's Grand Prix, or whatever they call it on the mens side, after defending his title. FIDE is like the Moltaran Nebula from Star Trek II <The Wrath of Khan>, where normal laws of science and logic do not apply. |
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| Jun-15-12 | | waustad: So if Western Europeans, Americans, ..., want in they need to either add rating points or bid for the tournaments. Maybe if they get the national airline to fly direct to Elista it would work. |
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| Jun-15-12 | | waustad: Here's the video link: http://kazan2012.fide.com/livevideo/ |
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| Jun-17-12 | | Method B: <HeMateMe: Apparently, FIDE feels that it is good to have the womens world champion out there playing the very best in the qualifying tournaments.> It's a really strange system:
There is a KO tourney to determine the women world champion in <even years>. There is a single match to determine the women world champion in <odd years> This Grand Prix event is part of the qualifying cycle for the 2013 championship match between the winner of the GP series and the <reigning> world champion who will be the winner of a 64-player KO tournament held in 2012 <not the current> world champion (Yifan Hou). So Yifan Hou is in this GP not to risk his title challenge in 2013 in case she can't win the 2012 KO world championship. Full regulations: http://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/r... |
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| Jun-17-12 | | dumbgai: Yildiz lost again. Her record in the GP series is a joke: 2/11 at Istanbul 2009, last place
1/11 at Nanjing 2009, last place
2.5/11 at Nalchik 2010, 2nd to last place
2/11 at Ulaanbaatar 2010, last place
2.5/11 at Shenzhen 2011, last place
1/7 at Kazan so far, last place
I think that's enough data to prove she isn't even close to the appropriate level. If they really need a Turkish player that badly, why not 2474-rated Ekaterina Atalik, who might actually be competitive? |
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| Jun-18-12 | | Kinghunt: <Method B> As I understand it then, here are several possible paths that could unfold in the next several years. A. Hou wins the GP and the 2012 KO event. She retains her title this year and does not need to face a challenger next year. B. Hou wins the GP but does not win the 2012 KO event. She loses her title this year but can challenge for it back next year. C. Hou loses the GP but wins the 2012 KO event. She keeps her title this year but needs to defend it against a challenger next year. D. Hou does not win the GP and does not win the 2012 KO event. She loses her title and cannot get it back until at least 2014. Can anyone with a better understanding of the system confirm that this is an accurate representation of all that can happen? |
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| Jun-19-12 | | Method B: I believe your points <Kinghunt> are correct except of the first one. From the regulations:
<Should the overall winner of the Women’s Grand Prix also be the Women’s World Champion at the end of the Grand Prix series in 2013, then the challenger rights will go to the second placed overall in the Grand Prix.> So Hou wins the GP and the 2012 KO event. She retains her title this year and need to defend it in 2013 against the second placed overall player in the GP. |
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