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| Dec-02-15 | | kubbybulin: $#@! Lazy, lazy!
After 11. Ne7 Kh8 12. Qh6? (after 10 seconds of MY analysis black is mated) but after the obvious 12...Rg8 13. Ng8 Rg8 white is in a pickle. Oops. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | stacase: Very easy week so far. The well placed Bishop that was key in the Monday and Tuesday offerings failed to make an appearance today. But 11. Bxg7 which is often the obvious move isn't today. Rather the correct 11. Ne7+ leads to a continuation that nearly plays itself. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | roentgenium: Managed to solve the puzzle, but initially suffered from a bit of 'phantom piece' syndrome, where I struggled to find the finishing blow 14.Qf6#. My brain kept telling me the Bishop was still on that square (also conveniently sidestepping the query of how the Black King could be at h8 with a White Bishop on f6). |
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| Dec-02-15 | | Once: Unfortunately I know this one. It's one of the games in a book I'm writing. So no puzzle but still pretty. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | dnp: oh boy. I was WAY off. I looked at Bxg7 and all the rest. N fork, Q getting into the slaughter. The simplicity of Cappa is amazing. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | thickhead: < nalinw>
<What about
12 Qg5 Qg4
continuing to copy??>
13.Bxg7# Copying stops. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | wooden nickel: Good thing you can't copy check, that would be the end of chess. Here's another good copycatter:
Traxler vs J Samanek, 1900 |
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| Dec-02-15 | | Oxspawn: <roentgenium> <initially suffered from a bit of 'phantom piece' syndrome, where I struggled to find the finishing blow 14.Qf6#>
I suffered the same phenomenom. I put it down to not being able to properly 'see' a position four moves ahead even when I have got there. I spent a lot of time worrying there was no killer mate on move 14. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | Oxspawn: I mean "no mate" rather than "no killer mate" - I don't think there is any other sort! |
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| Dec-02-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: Testing the copycat theory of play (most likely in a simul), black has handed the World Champ an easy forced win at move 11. In fact, there are two respectable paths to checkmate here and one diabolical trap to avoid. The natural path continues the symmetry for one more move: 11.Qg5 and now
A. 11... Qg4 12.Ne7+ Kh8 13.Bxg7#
B. 11... g6 12.Ne7+ Qxe7 13.Bxe7 1-0
B.1 12.Qh6?? Ne2+ 13.Kh1 Bxg2+ 14.Kxg2 Qg4+ 15.Kh1 Qf3# C. 11... Ne2+ 12.Kh1 g6 13.Ne7+ wins.
The other path simply reverses the trap line in white's favor: 11.Ne7+ Kh8 (Qxe7 12.Bxe7 wins) 12.Bxg7+ Kxg7 13.Qg5+ Kh8 14.Qf6#. |
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Dec-02-15
 | | sorokahdeen: This is one famous game.
1. Ne7+ Kh8
2. Bg7+ Kg7
3. Qg5+ Kh8
4. Qf6#
Basically, white wins by a tempo since black could have carried out the same combination were it his move. Lovely and instructive. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | mikrohaus: The hard part is to give the opponent just enough rope in certain openings to hang himself. Black has all kinds of winning threats, but he's not on move ... because he's been copying White moves. There's a certain justice to this, because White's first move advantage must have some value. I'm unfamiliar with any copy-cat games where Black won, except where Rubinstein deviated, but White made it symmetrical in a Lopez. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: I was wrong on two points - it wasn't a simul and Capa was not yet World Champ. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | whiteshark: NN's excessive symmetry didn't work |
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| Dec-02-15 | | Willem Wallekers: Baron von Münchhausen: "A gentleman challenged me to a game of chess. I said I couldn't play chess but he didn't believe me as I was a nobleman. He thought every nobleman played chess and and made some insinuations suggesting I was a coward. So my honour obliged me to play and I decided to copy his moves.
He started by moving the fourth pawn from is right two squares ahead and I did the same" etc. etc. The game went something like this:
1. e4 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. d3 e6 4. Bf4 Bc5
5. Nge2 Nbd7 6. Qd2 Ke7 7. Rd1 Re8 8. Nb5 Ng4 9. Bxc7 Bxf2# "He shook my hand, congratulated me and exclaimed "I knew you were a brilliant chessplayer"". |
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| Dec-02-15 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: <dcfx> Ack, I mistyped. I meant 11 Qg5 g6 12 Ne7+ |
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| Dec-02-15 | | 1.e4effort: To me this is very easy for a Wednesday; but its Capa, so the solution will be logical, concise, efficient, direct and to the point. Or is that two too many synonyms? |
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| Dec-02-15 | | thegoodanarchist: This game was played in 1918, a year in which the Red Sox won the World Series. "1918" used to be a taunt that Yankee Fans would chant to Sox Fans. That is, until the Yankees lost a 3-1 ALCS lead and Boston went on to win two World Series in the "aughts". |
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| Dec-02-15 | | thegoodanarchist: <1.e4effort: To me this is very easy for a Wednesday; but its Capa, so the solution will be logical, concise, efficient, direct and to the point. Or is that two too many synonyms?> It was barely enough! |
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Dec-02-15
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <Whitehat1963: What happens if 9...Bxf3? Is that just a free knight?> <sneaky pete: <Whitehat1963> You don't need an engine for that one. After 9... Bxf3 the logical 10.Bxf6.. is a simple win.> <ughaibu: If black recaptures on f6, then white plays Qh6 and Nf6. If black doesn't recapture on f6, then white plays Ne7, Bg7 and Qg5.> As is often the case with chess, it is perhaps not quite <that> simple. White certainly emerges with a clear advantage (a full exchange, which Capablanca certainly would have converted to a win) after what appears to be the continuation with best play for both sides, i.e., 9...Bxf3 10.Bxf6 gxf6 11.Qh6 Kh8 12.Nxf6 Ne2+! (This moves enables Black to escape the seemingly inevitable loss of his queen.) 13.Kh1 Bxg2+ 14.Kxg2 Rg8+ 15.Nxg8 Qxg8+, but it is perhaps slightly overstated to call the position (objectively, not specifically in the hands of Capablanca) “a simple win”. Interestingly, on move 9 the other capture on f3 (9. ... Nxf3) would have been at least equal for Black. FWIW, I cannot find the game in Caparrós, Rogelio, <The Games of José Raúl Capablanca> (Revised 2nd Edition), Chess Digest ©1994. There is a similar game in the ChessBase Megadatabase, 2015 (Capablanca vs. NN, New York casual 1918), but in that game, the kingside bishops are developed in the Spanish (rather than Italian) style, viz., <4. Bb5 Bb4>. At moves 9 and 10, these bishops were captured (<9.Nxb4 Nxb5>) and the Knights then returned to the center (<10.Nd5 Nd4>). Thereafter the moves continue as given here with move numbers increased by two. |
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Dec-02-15
 | | paulalbert: A great example of why Black cannot just automatically imitate White's moves with impunity! I have used this game as an example to illustrate the potential danger of trying to maintain absolute symmetry when your opponent is one tempo ahead. The laws of chess do not permit answering a check with your own symmetrical check to your opponent, as Capa so forcefully demonstrated to NN. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | stacase: <Willem Wallekers: Baron von Münchhausen: "A gentleman challenged me to a game of chess.> Very cute and very smart of of the "gentleman"
Who comes up with this stuff? |
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| Dec-02-15 | | kevin86: Black tries to copy white, but in the end, he cannot copy after 11...♕xe7 12 ♗xe7 ♘xe2+ 13 ♔h1 wins |
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| Dec-02-15 | | JimNorCal: I solved this in reverse by noticing that Black-to-move could mate. Only then seeing the symmetrical position and that White could do the same. In my mind's eye, I can see the corners of Capa's lips curl in a barely noticeable smile about move 9 ... the quick check of variations to ensure that Black has no easy way out, then *pounce*. |
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| Dec-02-15 | | Willem Wallekers: <stacase:Who comes up with this stuff?> Good question, I assume the story is on one of the bookshelves in this room. |
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