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| Aug-12-03 | | PVS: The decisive game of the match giving Shirov an unbeatable 2-0 advantage. Kramnik played 19.Nd5 rather than the necessary 19.d7; this allowed the powerful one-two punch of 19...e4 and 21...Qb6. |
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| Aug-12-03 | | crafty: 48. ... ♔d4 49. ♖h5 f3 50. ♔g3 ♔e3 51. ♖h6 f2  (eval -8.29; depth 16 ply; 1000M nodes) |
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| Aug-12-03 | | PVS: It does not get much worse than -8.29. Shirov could promote or walk his king to g1. |
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| Aug-12-03 | | refutor: it's too bad that the gruenfeld is "overanalyzed" (to quote leko)...i'd like to see more of it at the top levels...it produces such beautiful chess for both black and white |
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| Aug-12-03 | | Sylvester: Didn't Fischer use the Grunfeld for special games? |
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| Aug-12-03 | | Benjamin Lau: <Sylvester>
I think Fischer supposedly saved it only for high level games. |
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| Aug-12-03 | | Ashley: This was not an exciting match, however when Kramnik had to win as in this game, a very good game was played. The failure of Kasparov to play Shirov for the title demonstrates how bad a condition world class chess is in. |
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| Aug-12-03 | | Ashley: White lost all hope by playing 34. Re1. |
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| Aug-14-03 | | PVS: Look at 21...Qb6 and the few moves following. |
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| Jun-16-04 | | Whitehat1963: Shirov displays great technique in the opening of the day. |
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| Sep-24-04 | | clocked: not only 19.d7 but also the careful 19.Nf2 give white a nice advantage. Both of these moves call into question the decision to play 18...Ba6 rather than 18...Be6 |
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| Oct-05-04 | | Everett: Fischer played the Grunfeld against those players who played the Samisch against the King's Indian Defense, I think. He didn't like the Samisch KI from the black side. |
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| Nov-22-04 | | ughaibu: Why not 25.Qf2? |
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| Nov-22-04 | | Spassky69: <ughaibu> Because the king is in check. :) But anyways we're talking (oddly) about this on the Morozevich page so join in. |
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| Nov-22-04 | | ughaibu: Quite, Qf2 blocks the check. |
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| Nov-22-04 | | acirce: <ughaibu> Because of 25..exf3+ 26.Kd2 Bxf2 27.Nxf2 Re2+. |
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| Nov-22-04 | | ughaibu: Yes, I guess it's no better. |
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| Nov-22-04 | | Spassky69: <Not Kf2; Qf2.> My bad! |
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| Jul-29-05 | | 810609: It is interesting that last move of this game in Shirov´s book Fire on Board, vol. II is 47. ... Ke5. Was 48. b5 played? |
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| Jul-29-05 | | Hesam7: <810609> What does Shirov say about 19 d7 ? |
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| Jul-29-05 | | 810609: <Hesam7> from book: <Sometimes optimism helps! As I could only see myself in darkness after 18. ... Be6 19. Nf2, followed by 0-0 with a clear edge based on the powerful d6-pawn, I decided at all costs to prevent White from castling. And it worked! <19 Ndb5?> - But of course the co-operation of my opponent at such an important stage was necessary. Instead 19. d7! was probably the way to play. I was planning to continue 19 ... Re6, not seeing that I could also try the knight sacrifice 19. ... Qxd7!? 20. Qxd7 Nxd7 21. Rxd7 e4 which Kramnik was afraid of, if I remember correctly. However, in this case White would emerge with a nearly decisive advantage after 22 Nd5! exf3+ 23. Ne7+ Kh7 (23. ... Kf8 24. Bf2) 24. gxf3. So it´s quite clear that 19. ... Re6 is pretty much forced, though it´s very hard to find a reasonable reply after 20. Nd5; for example 20. ... Bb5 21. Bxf6 Bxf6 22. Ng5 and White is close to winning.> |
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| Jul-29-05 | | Hesam7: <810609> Thanks, so Kramnik Almost missed a win here. |
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| Oct-16-05 | | Hesam7: <810609> My engine confirms Shirov's analysis of 19. d7. After 19. d7 Re6 20. Nd5 Fruit computes: 20... Bb5 21. Bxf6 Bxf6 22. Ng5 Bxg5 23. hxg5 Bc6 24. Nf6+ Kg7 25. a4 Kf8 26. Rh4 a6 27. Qb4+ Kg7 28. Kf2 a5 29. Qd2 b5 30. axb5 Bxb5 31. g4 a4 32. gxh5 axb3 33. hxg6 fxg6 (eval: -1.11) Depth: 19/60
200K nodes/sec
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| Oct-16-05 | | csmath: You cannot selectively chose the errors of your opponent as the ones you cannot see and your own errors as the ones that are blunders. In this game Shirov's opening is sound and solid. He is doing mighty fine after 14 moves. He does make a sequence of errors,
15. ... Be6?!
16. Nh3?! (Kramnik returns a favor)
16. ... Nc4? (first serious error, Rc8 was better)
17. Bxc4 ... Bxc4
18. b3 ... Ba6? (second serious error)
19. Nd5 ? (Kramnik returns the favor)
19. ... e4!
20. Nxf6?!
The game is now even. In fact black position is more comfortable. 33. a4?
Serious error which will lose the game.
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| Oct-16-05 | | csmath: In both games in Cazorla, Kramnik was outplayed by Shirov in a complex game, and in particular Shirov has shown superior handling of endings. Also in both game Kramnik played a lost ending, in Petroff he plays a totally lost ending for about 15 moves (like a complete patzer expecting miracle), in Grunfeld game he plays a lost ending for about 10 moves. |
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