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Emanuel Lasker vs Sergey Polner
"It Slices! It Dices!" (game of the day Dec-24-2010)
Casual game (1889), Berlin GER, Sep-??
Vienna Game: Mieses Variation (C26)  ·  0-1

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ANALYSIS [x]
Notes by Stockfish 9 v010218 (minimum 6s/ply)better is 6.Na4 Bd4 7.d3 O-O 8.Nxd4 Nxd4 9.O-O Bg4 10.f3 Bd7 = +0.36 (27 ply)6...Bb6 was played in Schmaltz vs R Har-Zvi, 2001 (0-1)7.d3 was played in Loman vs J W te Kolste, 1897 (1-0)better is 7...Bd7 8.c3 Nxd5 9.exd5 Ne7 10.O-O O-O 11.a4 a5 12.d4 = -0.16 (29 ply)= +0.42 (31 ply) 8...Nd4 9.Nxd4 Bxd4 10.c3 Bb6 11.O-O O-O 12.d4 Qd7 = -0.06 (28 ply) 9.d4 Bb6 10.O-O O-O 11.c4 c6 12.dxc6 Nxc6 13.Be3 Re8 ⩲ +0.80 (25 ply)better is 9...O-O 10.O-O Nf5 11.d3 Nd4 12.Nc3 Nd7 13.Kh2 Qf6 = 0.00 (27 ply) ⩲ +0.65 (29 ply)better is 11.O-O c6 12.Bg5 Qf5 13.Bh4 O-O 14.b4 Bxb4 15.Rb1 c5 ⩲ +0.63 (29 ply)better is 11...Nf5 12.Nxf5 Qxf5 13.Qe2+ Kd7 14.O-O Rae8 15.Qf3 = 0.00 (29 ply) ⩲ +0.68 (28 ply) 13.Nb3 Bb6 14.Qd3 a5 15.a4 Ne7 16.Nd4 Rfe8 17.Be3 c6 ⩲ +0.60 (31 ply)= -0.32 (30 ply) 15.Bxe4 Qxe4 16.Qg4 Qxg4 17.hxg4 f5 18.gxf5 Rxf5 19.Rae1 = +0.20 (35 ply) ⩱ -1.10 (30 ply) 17.Qf3 Qxf3 18.Bxf3 Rfe8 19.Kg2 Nd3 20.Bc3 Bb4 21.Rad1 ⩱ -0.86 (30 ply)-+ -7.75 (29 ply)-+ mate-in-3 after 19...Ng4+ 20.Kh1 Qxh3+ 21.Bxh30-1

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Dec-24-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Nice game by Von Popiel!
Dec-24-10  kevins55555: Anastasia's mate, kind of.
Dec-24-10  drnooo: Its games, perhaps, like this that made
Fischer call Lasker a coffeehouse player...admittedly later he changed that estimate though I have never seen the words, just that he did.
Dec-27-10  kevin86: Slicing and dicing on Christmas Eve? Sounds like the slasher-shocker,SILENT NIGHT,DEADLY NIGHT.
Mar-30-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: 19...? Could be a Tuesday/Wednesday puzzle.


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Mar-30-11
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  Phony Benoni: <PenguinCW> More likely Tuesday, as it was on Tuesday, 11/11/2008.
Mar-31-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Oh...
Mar-31-11
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  Phony Benoni: Which doesn't mean they won't use it again. I've been running into several repeats while compiling my Puzzle of the Day collections.
May-25-11  theagenbiteofinwit: 15.Bxe4 would have been a simple way of taking the wind out of black's sails.
Jun-21-11  Chessist: According to "The Collected Games of Emanuel Lasker" by Ken Whyld Black was a certain S. I. Polner.
Feb-26-12  Nimrod 21: <drnooo>
Well, of course Lasker WAS a coffeehouse player and, in style, seems to have remained one. He just took it to the ultimate level! Even Tarrasch finally came round to a sort of bewildered admiration.
Feb-26-12  RookFile: Lasker was willing to take tactical beatings like this in order to become a tactical powerhouse himself.
Jul-27-13  quinlan: Strange thing to see Lasker beaten so hard, in just some few moves! Anyway, Popiel did a nice job!
Jul-12-18
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  FSR: Wow! Von Popiel made Lasker look like a beginner!
Jan-16-21  reti: This game was played between Lasker and Popiel
Jan-16-21
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  MissScarlett: Prove it!
Jan-16-21  realdumptrump: Well, do we have Whyld's source then?

What's good for the goose...

Jan-16-21  realdumptrump: I have a 1975 source giving the game as being played in Vienna, fwiw.
Jan-16-21
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  MissScarlett: With Polner or Popiel?
Jan-16-21  realdumptrump: Polner - https://books.google.com/books?id=m... (no real preview, but that's the source)
Jan-16-21  realdumptrump: (Maybe google translate confused the opening with the location?)
Jan-16-21  realdumptrump: OK, reading a little about Polner - I would doubt he was outside St. Petersburg during 1889 (I mean, it's possible, but how likely?).

Where was Lasker during 1889? He was just starting out...

Yes, I'm skeptical - let's find the source for this game.

Jan-16-21
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  MissScarlett: Well, you asked for it....<Samouchitel shakhmatnoi igry Schiffers game 364.> There's no problem with Lasker being in Berlin in 1889.
Jan-16-21  realdumptrump: No, but what about Polner? A poor academic in St. Petersburg traveling to Berlin for what reason?

Also -what the heck kind of ref is that? Is it Bronstein's book or Schiffers? Where's the worldcat link dude(tte).

Oct-05-22
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  mifralu: <realdumptrump: MissScarlett: >

Samouchitel shakhmatnoi igry Schiffers game 364. -->

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