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| Dec-16-16 | | ColeTrane: Coletrane @ coletrane ..... Dont be absurd.... Youre letting the voices get to ya'll again. Relajate y mira al juego no mas.... Asi se vayan las voces enternas.... |
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| Dec-16-16 | | SimplicityRichard: <beenthere240: It's hard to say that chess is played out when you see something like this.> I totally agree. A dazzling game by Caruana. It appears that a fierce competition between Wesley and Caruana to challenge Carlsen next year is on the cards.# |
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| Dec-17-16 | | talwnbe4: Splendid game.
28. Bf5 is just fine, e.g, 28. Bf5 Rfe8 29. Rg1  2.3
e.g,
28. Bf5 Rfe8 29. Rg1 Rxb4 30. Rxa6 Rb7 31. Ng4 Qh4 32. Nxe5 Rg8 33. Nxf7+ Rxf7 34. Bd4+ Rf6 35. Rf1 winning |
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| Dec-17-16 | | mistreaver: There was a tremendous line available to Caruana on his 29th move:
click for larger view
Here 29 Nxf7+ Rxf7 30 Rxe6 Qxb4 31 Rh6+ Kg8 32 Rg1+ Rg7 33 Be6+ Kf8
leads to the following position:
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It seems that White has gone mad, but he has an amazing shot:
34 Bc5!!
This is rather easy to miss in preliminary calculations.
34... Qxc5 35 Rh8+ Ke7 36 Rxg7+ Kd6 37 Rxb8
And White wins.
More details are available here http://www.chessentials.com/london-... |
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| Dec-17-16 | | Eduardo Bermudez: Excellent chess game ! |
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| Dec-17-16 | | thegoodanarchist: A Christmas Carul! |
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| Dec-17-16 | | Eyal: <There was a tremendous line available to Caruana on his 29th move: 29 Nxf7+ Rxf7 30 Rxe6 Qxb4 31 Rh6+ Kg8 32 Rg1+ Rg7 33 Be6+ Kf8 [...] It seems that White has gone mad, but he has an amazing shot: 34 Bc5!! This is rather easy to miss in preliminary calculations. 34... Qxc5 35 Rh8+ Ke7 36 Rxg7+ Kd6 37 Rxb8 And White wins.> Btw, as I already mentioned in a previous post, Caruana - according to what he said to Maurice Ashley after the game - actually calculated <all> of that, but he ended up rejecting this line because he thought 37...Qg1+ by Black would lead to perpetual, somehow forgetting that the rook on g7 prevents that queen check. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8v... |
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| Dec-17-16 | | thegoodanarchist: < Eyal: <There was a tremendous line available to Caruana on his 29th move: 29 Nxf7+ Rxf7 30 Rxe6 Qxb4 31 Rh6+ Kg8 32 Rg1+ Rg7 33 Be6+ Kf8 [...] It seems that White has gone mad, but he has an amazing shot: 34 Bc5!! This is rather easy to miss in preliminary calculations. 34... Qxc5 35 Rh8+ Ke7 36 Rxg7+ Kd6 37 Rxb8 And White wins.> Btw, as I already mentioned in a previous post, Caruana - according to what he said to Maurice Ashley after the game - actually calculated <all> of that, but he ended up rejecting this line because he thought 37...Qg1+ by Black would lead to perpetual, somehow forgetting that the rook on g7 prevents that queen check. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8v... Sweet! Excellent post, <Eyal>! |
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| Dec-17-16 | | Eyal: <ChessHigherCat> You probably mean 21.Nc6. First of all, 21...Bg5+? is just losing for Black after 22. hxg5 Qxg5+ 23. Be3 (23...Qxg4 24. Nf6+). But second, Black should simply give the queen back for the two minor pieces with 21... Bxg4 22. Nxd8 Bxd8, and then the position seems approximately equal and White hasn't achieved very much. The brilliancy of the queen sac is that after 21.Nf5!! the two minor pieces are stronger than the queen. |
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| Dec-17-16 | | ChessHigherCat: Doesn't 21. Nc6 win the Queen outright? Black can play Bg5+ but white can just move the king and the Q still has no escape squares. If white plays hxB then QxB+, N3 covering the bishop on g4, but it's better to win the queen. |
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| Dec-17-16 | | Eyal: <but 21. Nc6 is winning, too, right?> No, I don't think so - at least not in any obvious way; as I mentioned, it results in material equality (White gains back the queen but also gives back the two minor pieces), and in the resulting position there are pros and cons for both sides (Black may have more weaknesses, but also the bishop pair). In the game itself, btw, Nakamura didn't seem surprised at all by 19.Qxf6 and answered very quickly - he stopped for a long think only after 21.Nf5, which probably means that he was ready for 21.Nc6 and didn't mind playing the resulting position. |
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| Dec-17-16 | | ChessHigherCat: Okay, I see your point, the minor pieces are stronger in that position. It just seemed incredible that Nc6 seemed to win the Q and nobody even commented on the possibility before. |
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| Dec-18-16 | | you vs yourself: What was the point of 29.b5? |
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| Dec-18-16 | | ChessHigherCat: <you vs yourself: What was the point of 29.b5?"> I was wondering that me vs. myself. I think the idea might be that if axb5 then the pawn closes off a dangerous file and if Rxb5, then 30. BxB, f7xB, 31. Rd8, RxR, 32. RxR, QxR, 33. Nxf7+. I don't know what happens if 31...Rb5 comes back to b1 though. |
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| Dec-18-16 | | Eyal: <What was the point of 29.b5?> As Caruana himself explains in a video to which I linked in a previous post, he was worried about Black's counterplay in case of 29.Nxf7+ Rxf7 30.Rxe6 Qxb4, since he didn't quite manage to calculate the forced win in such a case. So after 29.b5, if Black takes with the pawn he closes the b-file and if he takes with the rook it weakens the back rank and opens new winning possibilities - I've explained it in more detail here - Caruana vs Nakamura, 2016 (kibitz #5) (last paragraph). |
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| Dec-18-16 | | ChessHigherCat: <Eyal> Not surprisingly, Caruana gives a much better analysis in your video, but I wish I could slow down the speed to about 1/10th at the end there so I could follow him.
BTW, I hope you appreciated my maturity and restraint by not saying "and 33. black is royally forked on f7" :-) |
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| Dec-18-16 | | you vs yourself: Thanks guys! Beautiful game! I was surprised that white had the luxury of a quiet move like 29.b5 |
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| Dec-25-16 | | Timi: Why does this game have no title? |
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| Dec-25-16 | | schweigzwang: Suggest one! |
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| Dec-25-16 | | ChessHigherCat: <Eyal> I don't mean to run this into the ground but I just looked at the position again after 21. Nc6 and white doesn't have to lose the rook: 21. Nc6, Bxb4 22. R(d1)f1, Bf3, 23. R(h1)h2, for example, and black's queen is just as trapped as before with only a bishop in compensation. As I mentioned in my first post, if black plays Bb5+, white can just move the K or if black plays Bxh4 instead, white recaptures with the bishop and the black Q is still trapped. Black has various bishop manu(ve)res attacking the rooks but none of them works. |
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| Dec-25-16 | | Eyal: <ChessHigherCat> I never said White has to lose the rook, only that in the 21.Nc6 line he gives back the two minor pieces for the queen. 22.Rdf1? is bad because of 22...Qc8! and now after 23.Nxf6+ Kf8 there's no Rxd6. It's possible to play 22.Rd2, but then after 22...Rc8 (now 22...Qc8? 23.Nxf6+ Kf8 24.Rxd6 is horrible for Black) there's nothing better for White than 23.Nxd8 and we reach essentially the same position as after an immediate 22.Nxd8. |
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| Dec-25-16 | | ChessHigherCat: <Eyal: <ChessHigherCat> It's possible to play 22.Rd2, but then after 22...Rc8 (now 22...Qc8? 23.Nxf6+ Kf8 24.Rxd6 is horrible for Black) there's nothing better for White than 23.Nxd8 and we reach essentially the same position as after an immediate 22.Nxd8.>
It's true it's not easy to find a good square for the rook. I rejected 22. Rd2 as an option because then black really can play Bg5 and white is forced either to lose the rook on d2 or let the Q escape with 23. hxg5, Qxg5, although in the latter case white has the fork on c7 so it's still complicated |
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| Dec-25-16 | | Eyal: 22. Rd2 Bg5? is still bad for Black - he'll have to give up the queen under worse circumstances: 23. hxg5 Qxg5 24. Bh4 Qg7 (24... Qg6 25. Nce7 Qg7 26. Rg2! h5 27. Nf5 Qg6 28. Nf6+ Kf8 29. Nxg4 hxg4 30. Be7+ Kg8 31. Rhg1 1-0) 25. Bf6 Qh7 26. Bxe5! (threatening Nf6+) 26... Kd7 (26... Kf8 27. Bxd6+) 27. Nf6+ Kxc6 28. Rxd6+ Kb7 29. Nxh7 Rxh7 and White has at least good winning chances with a pawn up. |
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| Dec-28-16 | | lakshashishu: GOTD:Castle Black |
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| Dec-28-16 | | NBZ: <23.Rd3, a logical move, does look stronger for White, but I still see a game that's solidly in the draw range, lacking a way to force a black loss.> But Black has no winning try, whereas White can milk the position to death secure in the knowledge that the result can only be a White win or a draw. I think most players, human or computer, would jump to be white in this position. |
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