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| Apr-07-17 | | Marmot PFL: Wonder how much of this game was prepared as they are playing book moves for the first 17 or 18 moves, and after that black played fast and didn't make any mistakes |
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| Apr-07-17 | | bubuli55: Madami pang kakainin itong si tsong. |
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| Apr-07-17 | | beenthere240: Sad that white didn't notice that he could take black's queen. |
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| Apr-07-17 | | maelith: < beenthere240: Sad that white didn't notice that he could take black's queen.> black will play c2 if he takes the queen. |
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| Apr-07-17 | | Lost Rook: Move 21.....Nf2 was one of the best moves I've seen in recent times. |
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Apr-07-17
 | | Sally Simpson: That was a good game by Wes So. The tactics kicked off by 21..Nf2 and White appeared to get befuddled in the complications. When as Black here.
click for larger viewYou can play 28...Rd8 you just know this is wrapped up. I wonder if White saw it coming. |
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Apr-07-17
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Best game in US Championship history? What does everyone else think? 28...Rd8 is an amazing move, but even if it's opening theory, 13...c5 is quite a move--one doesn't normally try to force the opponent to play a discovered attack on one's own Queen. |
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| Apr-07-17 | | bubuli55: < beenthere240: Sad that white didn't notice that he could take black's queen. > 32.Qxd1 c2
33.Qc1 Rb1
34.c7 Rxc1+
35.Kf2 Rf1+
and black wins. |
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Apr-08-17
 | | HeMateMe: can black win quicker by playing 28...QxR+ immediately, followed by c2? |
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| Apr-08-17 | | maelith: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Best game in US Championship history? What does everyone else think? 28...Rd8 is an amazing move, but even if it's opening theory, 13...c5 is quite a move--one doesn't normally try to force the opponent to play a discovered attack on one's own Queen.> No disrespect intended, but there are better US championship games than this.For example I like the positional wins by Fischer in the US championship. But this is a nice win by Wesley. |
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| Apr-08-17 | | Muttley101: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Best game in US Championship history? What does everyone else think? 28...Rd8 is an amazing move, but even if it's opening theory, 13...c5 is quite a move--one doesn't normally try to force the opponent to play a discovered attack on one's own Queen.> Whilst I think comparisons are a bit divisive, I'm going to say "no" to this one, on the grounds that Fischer's win as black against Byrne (63/64) from a symmetrical English still strikes me as the best ever. The combination is stunning, as are the supporting variations. BUT! This game is up there with it :) (which is why I say comparisons are divisive.) |
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| Apr-08-17 | | luzhin: Note that if So had played 30...exd4?? then Xiong wins with 31.c7! |
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| Apr-08-17 | | iking: cg database have shown that Wesley So has a good result with closed Catalan, amazing.
17. W So vs Nakamura 1-0 38 2016 Sinquefield Cup E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
18. W So vs Adams 1-0 40 2016 London Chess Classic E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
19. W So vs R Wojtaszek 1-0 34 2017 Tata Steel E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
20. J Xiong vs W So 0-1 31 2017 US Championship E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3 |
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Apr-08-17
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Englishman, Good Afternoon,
This is a very good game.
"Best game in US Championship history?"
AT first I thought you might be quoting this claim from another thread. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.
If you can get your hands on 'Winning the Won Game' by Danny Kopec & Ludomir Ftacnik you will see all the winners of the Paul Albert Brilliancy Prizes awarded in the US Championship from 1984 - 2003 and in some cases the 2nd and 3rd winners. 64 games in all. This is one of the games. (it was played in Chandler, Arizona so it must be good.) Wolff vs Gulko, 1992 The whole book is full of such gems. If Wes had played this game between the above dates I think it would have got in somewhere, but the best game in US Champion history?....Maybe next year. But a good shout.
Good afternoon.
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PS: Never quite sure about the title 'Winning the Won Game' It adds on the cover in a smaller font 'Lessons from the Albert Brilliancy Prizes'. 'Lessons' sounds like there is work for me to do here. I'm laziness personified. 'Brilliancy Prize Winners of the US Championships 1984-2003' is the kind of book I would buy without even browsing through it first. Excellent book = 100% recommended. |
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| Apr-08-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Battle of the exclamation points on moves 20 and 21. The finish was So amazing, too, but I wouldn't pick the game as an all-time favorite. So's phenomenal, of course, but I'm a great admirer of Caruana's games and I don't think it's possible to draw any profound inferences about his destiny just because he has a bad day from time to time. I'm sure he'll come out of his slump in the near future. |
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| Apr-08-17 | | Toribio3: Bravo Wesley Kabayan! You are our Filipino hero. |
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| Apr-09-17 | | clement41: The endgame skills displayed here are simply flabbergasting. I can't help but treat this as the 21st century equivalent to M Ortueta Esteban vs J Sanz, 1933 (or is it Tylkowski vs A Wojciechowski, 1931 ? ;-) ) |
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Apr-09-17
 | | NM JRousselle: When asked for the best game ever in a US Championship, I also think Byrne - Fischer 1963. |
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| Apr-10-17 | | Imran Iskandar: <clement41> Nisipeanu vs Caruana, 2015 is a more likely candidate for the 21st century equivalent to those games, in my opinion. |
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| Apr-10-17 | | southeuro: instead of 28..Rd8 couldn't black take on d1 and push c2 next? |
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| Apr-10-17 | | gopi11: That was a nice swindle <Imran>, but sorry to burst your bubble, a patzer like me wouldn't even fall for that... |
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| Apr-12-17 | | Ulhumbrus: In the position after 21...Nxf2 White's queen's rook is not in play but Black's king's rook is. |
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| Apr-12-17 | | Imran Iskandar: Okay, <gopi11>, would you like to provide a better example then? |
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| Apr-12-17 | | scholes: Lot of cute tactics but not very deep moves. Mainly because of white. Byrne vs Fisher is something else. This game is not comparable to that game. |
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| Apr-12-17 | | scholes: But certainly very beautiful game |
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