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Georg Marco vs Alexander Alekhine
Bad Pistyan (1922), Piestany CSR, rd 12, Apr-20
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Morphy Attack (C78)  ·  0-1

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Jun-03-06
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  Gypsy: <11.c3?...> A terrible move causing all sorts of tactical problems.

<12.Re1?...> Marco is still oblivious to the fact that his queen is overloaded by the defense of f3, b3, and d4.

Jun-03-06
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  Calli: The tournament book, believe it or not, blames it all on 8.a4.

"Wir halten den Zug 8.a2-a4 in dieser Spielweise für verfehlt."

translates something like

"We hold the move 8.a4 in White's play [as responsible] for the failure."

Its kind of funny the way opening analysis changes! a4 is a perfectly normal move today.

Jun-04-06
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  Gypsy: <Calli: The tournament book, believe it or not, blames it all on 8.a4.> Well, I'll be damned. Things sure change in the openings!
Feb-11-07  crwynn: I don't know if the tournament book is right, but is it so unreasonable? Certainly a4 is standard now in the Ruy Lopez at large, but I'm not sure it was actually a revelation back then either. For instance, in the Open Ruy there was a fashionable line with a4 (also on move 8): Games Like Lasker vs Schlechter, 1910

Perhaps the author of the Bad Pistyan 1922 book (?) was simply saying that a4 is wrong in this particular position; it does seem a bit extreme to blame the loss on it, but is it really that useful for White to provoke ...b4 here?

In Spassky vs I Morovic, 1989 and Spassky vs I Morovic, 1989 Spassky does not play a4 at all; admittedly Morovic-Fernandez preferred 7...0-0 to 7...d6 but I do not see a big difference.

Meanwhile Alekhine might not have thought so little of Marco's position as late as 11.c3 0-0 - in Alekhine vs Prils/Blaut, 1923 he allowed his opponents to transpose to this; admittedly it was a consultation game, but while he might play a substandard opening in such a situation, I doubt he would purposefully just blunder.

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