| May-21-04 | | horticulture: I find it a terrible shame that the author of one of the most user-friendly beginner's chess books (namely, Chess For Dummies by IDG Books) has absolutely no kibiting! (sighs) |
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| May-22-04 | | DtO: James Eade and Jim Eade are the same person? (James Eade is the name that appears on the cover of Chess for Dummies) Can someone help me out here? To me, it seems this should be a win for black...why did they agree to draw? |
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| May-23-04 | | Lawrence: <DtO>, welcome to this great site. Maybe Eade was just trying to show what a dummy he is--trying to sell more copies of his book?--because Junior 8 shows that after 20...Rag8 the eval is -1.18 (15 min. search) |
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| May-23-04 | | Jim Bartle: What is frustrating about this game is that the final position is complex, certainly not lifeless and drawish. So why a draw? So Benjamin, one of the top players in the US, offers a draw as white against a lower-ranked opponent. This would suggest he really doesn't like his position. So Eades may have decided to take the sure half-point rather than risk a loss to a clearly superior player (despite having a better position?) |
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| May-23-04 | | Lawrence: <JimB>, that sounds right. |
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| May-23-04 | | DtO: Sounds like chess politics. =) |
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| May-24-04 | | acirce: I often offer draws (or accept them) in better positions against players who are better than me. I think it optimizes my results in the long run. |
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| May-25-04 | | DtO: I don't understand why you do so, but I'll accept the advice.. |
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May-26-04
 | | tpstar: Guys, remember this was a team tournament, so any conventional considerations of win/draw/loss are skewed by how the other Boards are doing at the time, which we have no way to know. As a rule, when someone offers a draw in an unclear position, they know they're losing. |
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| May-26-04 | | acirce: <DtO> Of course it depends on how MUCH better I am on the board and whether the opponent has counterchances or if I at least have a safe draw... etc. And on the situation in the tournament (important last round?) or team match... but that is also self-evident. |
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| Mar-08-05 | | DanielBryant: Alright, 20...Rae8 then what? |
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| Apr-29-06 | | jimeade: Hi all,
I actually played 20...Rae8 and offered the draw. Joel thought for quite some time before accepting it. What I saw was 21. f6 Kxe6 22. Qg4+ with perpetual check. |
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| Apr-29-06 | | jimeade: Yes, I wrote Chess for Dummies, and yes, sometimes I play like one. ;-) |
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Jun-17-19
 | | PawnSac: < jimeade: > Well Jim, interestingly enough, here we are 13 years later after your post, and 20 years after the game, and Stockfish_10_x64 evaluates the position as a dead draw: < 37/62 11:52 415,655k 583k 0.00 >
21.f6 Bd6 22.Rxe8 Rxe8 23.Bh6 Nd8 24.f7 Re6 25.Rf1 Bxh2+ 26.Kh1 Bd6 27.Qh3 Qa5 28.a3 Nxf7 29.Rxf7+ Be7 30.Rf1 Qa6 31.Re1 Qxc4 32.Qf5 Bd6 33.Qf7+ Be7 < 39/33 18:02 627,013k 579k 0.00 >
21.f6 Bd6 22.Rxe8 Rxe8 23.Bh6 Bxh2+ 24.Kh1 Bd6 25.f7 Re6 26.Rf1 Ne5 27.Qh3 Be7 28.f8N+ Bxf8 29.Bxf8 Qc6 30.Re1 Nd3 31.Qxh7+ Kc8 32.Rxe6 Nf2+ 33.Kg1 Qxe6 34.Kxf2 Qe3+ 35.Kf1 Qc1+ 36.Ke2 Qe3+ < 40/73 21:44 753,457k 578k 0.00 >
21.f6 Bd6 22.Rxe8 Rxe8 23.Bh6 Bxh2+ 24.Kh1 Bd6 25.f7 Re6 26.Rf1 Ne5 27.f8N+ Bxf8 28.Bxf8 Kc6 29.Re1 Qc8 30.Bxc5 Kxc5 31.Rxe5+ Rxe5 32.Qxe5+ Kxc4 33.Qe2+ Kd5 34.Qf3+ Ke5 35.Qg3+ Kd5 |
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