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| Feb-06-05 | | motogrrl: <meloncio>, I've only found 2 pix on the net with Capa and Alekhine together. One is this one of them playing, which doesn't sound as you describe:
http://www.bostream.nu/taz/lared/aj... And the other is a pretty neat group shot of Alekhine, Capablanca, Marshall, Lasker and Tarrash, here: http://pages.videotron.com/mbodry/A... Of course, nearly 10 months after you made your request, you probably won't even see this reply... :P |
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| Feb-06-05 | | percyblakeney: <meloncio> Here it is: http://www.chessbase.com/images2/20... |
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| Feb-06-05 | | like a GM: Couldn't Alekhine have saved the b7 pawn? Rab8 for example |
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| Feb-06-05 | | azaris: <like a GM> Ng5 is a powerful threat. |
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| Feb-06-05 | | meloncio: <motogrrl><percyblakeney> Thanks guys, but <Lawrence> gave me the link a long time ago. <percyb> Yes, that's the picture I was looking for. |
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| Jul-04-05 | | Mitch Mitchell: the best answer to the Capa--AA debate may be that AA refused a rematch many times. I think Capa in his prime is slightly better than Alekhine. Think of the great matches played by Karpov and Kasparov. What if one would have been able to duck the other after the first match? Horrors!! |
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| Jul-05-05 | | PARACONT1: <mitch mitchell> Alekhine never duckd Capablanca. Capa just never managed to fulfill the match requirements set by Alekhine, which were incidentally the SAME conditions imposed by Capa for Alekhine to play him in 1927. It is ridiculous to say Alekhine avoided Capablanca when the latter didn't prove himself able enough to do what he expected others to be able to do earlier. |
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| Jul-05-05 | | PARACONT1: As for saying Capa is better than Alekhine, NONSENSE. talent alone is never enuff to be the best. Alekhine had the talent, will and preparation to qualify as the best player between 1920 to 1940. |
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| Jul-05-05 | | Conan the Librarian: You cant say you're the best when you hide from your closest competitor for ten years. No one doubts Alekhine's talent. But his rep is tarnished by ducking Capa, whom he beat by just one point in 1927. Capa may have won a rematch. Thats why A. Alekhine never gave him one. He thought it would be more sporting to beat Bogolyubov for a third time. |
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| Jul-05-05 | | paladin at large: <PARACONTI> Many of the world champions have ducked to one degree or another a match or rematch with a powerful competitior. The thing which brands Alekhine as such a great coward is his refusal to play Capablanca in any tournament from 1928 until 1936 Nottingham. He only played Capa at Nottingham because he was no longer WC and could not dictate terms to the tournament organizers. |
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Jul-05-05
 | | offramp: A rematch between the two - an improved Alekhine and a better prepared Capablanca - could easily have lasted twice the length of the first one. No sponsor was interested in that, especially after the Wall St Crash. |
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| Jul-07-05 | | PARACONT1: Alekhine refused to play Capa not because of cowardice, but because he was offended by Capa's attitude in seeking a rematch. Capa seemed to think he was entitled to one by virtue of his being a great player, and not because he was to meet the standard challenge requirements I mentioned. If you study the correspondences between these two players in neegotiationg the terms for a rematch (and there is a lot!) you'd realized at no point did Alekhine DECLINE to play Capa, the negotiations failed because Capa refused to meet the requirements. In fact, Capa even said if Alekhine wouldn't play him as was expected then Capa would regain the title by forfeit! What challenger has the right to suggest such an idea? It was these sort of attitudes and insults that caused Alekhine to finally give up on ever meeting Capa in person over the board. That they finally met in 1935 was not due to the loss of the crown, but Alekhine's need to prove that he could still compete with the best after public confidence in him had lessened in 1935. It is a great merit to him that he put personal differences aside to focus on professional issues at hand. |
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Jul-08-05
| | offramp: Capablanca's move 21.Qa5! wins a pawn and eventually the game. This was the first match game these two ever played. Now go forward 14 years to Alekhine vs Capablanca, 1927, which is the last match game they ever played. There Alekhine as white played 23.Qa5!, winning a pawn and later the game, the match and the title. |
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| Aug-10-05 | | Wqazu: Wow
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| Aug-19-05 | | george IV: <PARACONT1> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Alekhine demanded a fund of $10,000 for a rematch with Capablanca in 1931. That amount of money, after the 1929 crack, was almost impossible to raise. If Alekhine really was willing to play a rematch against Capablanca, I think he could have been less demanding. Wouldn't you? |
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| Aug-19-05 | | RookFile: Well, put it this way: Alekhine
didn't make Bogo or Euwe put up
$10,000. For Capa though, he
demanded $10,000 all the way.
Hmmm. Ten thousand dollars in 1931.
Great depression is on, and people
are starving to death. I wonder what
the odds are that people are going
to pay to see a chess match? |
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| Aug-19-05 | | Koster: 18...Bb5 is a silly move, chasing the rook where it wants to go anyway. Ng8-f6, bringing the last piece into play must be correct. |
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| Aug-20-05 | | humanehuman: this shows Capa at his best, slicing up Alekhine.
Regarding title matches and sponsors, both were stingy about defending the title and taking chances. Fischer was the same type of person. |
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| Dec-26-05 | | CapablancaFan: Knight f4 mate cannot be stopped. |
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| Feb-17-06 | | Fritz 0: It`s out of doubt that Alekhine would have rather played against the devil than a rematch against Capablanca, but one shouldn`t state so easily that Capablanca would have beaten him if the rematch had been played. Don`t overlook Alekhine`s magnificent victories in San Remo and Bled in 1930 and 1931, respectively, without a single loss. Those results weren`t surpassed until Fischer`s slaughters in the early 1970`s. I think that it`s enough to say that the rematch between Alekhine and Capablanca would have been as uncertain as a sport event can be. |
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| Mar-26-06 | | jose manuel: I have seen many comments on Capa and Alekhine about who was the best etc etc.i personally think that simply Capa was the greatest and is still the greatest but don't take it from me these are the words from Alexander Alekhine himself after he knew of the great Capa's death THE GREATEST PLAYER THAT THE WORLD HAS KNOWN HAS DIED THERE WILL NEVER BE ONE LIKE HIM. and honestly i don't think there has been one like him yet that's why i think he is still the greatest even if he's gone! |
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| Mar-26-06 | | whatthefat: <jose manuel: THE GREATEST PLAYER THAT THE WORLD HAS KNOWN HAS DIED THERE WILL NEVER BE ONE LIKE HIM.>
When the facts don't work, find a quote! Unfortunately, this one contradicts a number of others... "Morphy was probably the greatest genius of them all." - Bobby Fischer "Fischer is the greatest genius to descend from the chess heavens."
- Mikhail Tal
"I know only one chess genius."
- Tigran Petrosian (on Mikhail Tal)
"Kasparov is without a doubt the best player in the history of chess, taking into account both his competitive results and a his contribution to the developent of the game."
- Emil Sutovsky
Gee, at least five best players of all time.. now we're really in trouble aren't we? For an unbiased opinion though, perhaps we should listen to the man himself: "As one by one I mowed them down, my superiority
soon became apparent."
- Jose Capablanca
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| Mar-26-06 | | ughaibu: Didn't Capablanca say something like "Lasker is the most dangerous player in the world"? And this was in 1936, so, Lasker at his best would've been well clear of anyone else. Most dangerous player in the world for 40 years, nobody else comes anywhere near that. |
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| Mar-26-06 | | paladin at large: <whatthefat><"As one by one I mowed them down, my superiority
soon became apparent."
- Jose Capablanca >
Your citation is misleading in juxtaposition with your other quotes since Capablanca made this statement in the specific context of his 1906 - 1908 encounters with members of the Manhattan Chess Club. (My Chess Career) Capablanca invariably had high praise for Lasker's play and noted as late as 1939 that he thought that Lasker's skills, especially his judgment, had hardly diminished. Capa referred to Lasker's "extraordinary quality of play". Capablanca was obviously pleased when others commented during his peak years on his, Capa's, superiority on the world stage but he refrained from making direct boasts in this regard. His comments tended to be nuanced and indirect. For example, in 1939 he said: "It is difficult to judge oneself: Nonetheless, the general opinion of masters is that the precision and speed of my chess judgment were superior to Lasker's." Capablanca also said that he thought Lasker was the greatest endgame player he had ever encountered but, left open the question of whether he thought Lasker (or anyone else) was superior to him. |
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| Mar-26-06 | | jose manuel: Well i think it's a matter of personal judgments and opinnions after all i PERSONALLY think capa was the greatest simply because his mastery was all natural all of the other masters(great players nonetheless) have studied a lot of theory Kasparov the most once he revealed that he had over 4000 (if im correct) openning novelties stored in his computer Garry is a great theoritician but not the greatest chess genius so if we talk about geniuses there's no doubt in my mind and in many other's minds that Capa is still the greatest and still is |
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