<Sergei Tkachenko> has recently published a more accurate provenance for this game in his book "Alekhine's Odessa Secrets" (Elk and Ruby Publishing House 2018), pp. 28-33.

The game was played in April, not May.

"E Loran" is <Nikolai Evgenevich Laurent> (1885 - not before May - 1919).

<Nikolai Evgenevich Laurent> won the Odessa Championship in 1906.

-Sergei Tkachenko "Alekhine's Odessa Secrets" (Elk and Ruby Publishing House 2018), p.32

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In the crosstable for this event, <rusbase> has him listed as "N. Loran":

<Nikolai Evgenevich Laurent> was one of the founders of the "Odessa Chess Society," and edited the chess department in the "Odessa News." He also played in the First South Russian Tournament (1910):

<...The meeting will allocate 500 rubles and another separate prize for the most beautiful game. The tournament was held in the magnificent premises of the Odessa Commercial Meeting on 4 Havana Street, the winner and second prize winner were awarded gold tokens. From Odessa they played - Boris Verlinsky, Pavel List, V.M.Vladimirov - one of the founders of the Odessa Chess Society, N. Laurent, S. Kiryakov, from Kiev participated two: Efim Bogolyubov and Stefan Izbinsky, from Kharkov - I. Selivanov, from Rostov-on-Don - B. Yankovich. The first prize (160 rubles) will be won by Boris Verlinsky, who started the tournament with a defeat to Pavel List, but then confidently finished, the second prize will go to Efim Bogolyubov, the third and fourth will be shared by Liszt and Izbinsky. Nikolai Evgenievich Laurent not only played in the tournament, but also edited the chess department in Odessa News.>

As you can see, <V.M.Vladimirov> (Vasily Modestovich Vladimirov), Laurent's consultation partner in this game against <Alekhine>, also played in the First South Russian Tournament (1910).

Here is a photograph of <Alekhine> together with <Nikolai Evgenevich Laurent> and <Vasily Modestovich Vladimirov>, on the occasion of this consultation game:

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/pr...

<This picture was taken on May 2, 1916 during the consultation game of Laurent and Vladimirov - Alekhine. Opposite the Moscow maestro sits the treasurer of the Odessa Chess Society, Vasily Modestovich Vladimirov (he is in uniform, as he was the director of the railway school in worldly life). Next to him, recording the game, is Nikolai Evgenievich Laurent - the leader of the chess department in Odessa News (in 1911 he was the editor-publisher of the Odessa journal Chess).>

<Stonehenge> Thanks for pointing that out. I had posted on this before but forgotten about it. N Laurent / V Vladimirov vs Alekhine, 1916 (kibitz #2)

Even though I can see now it was me who uploaded both games in question.

I would prefer to change N Loran to N. Laurent, as opposed to the other way round.

Why you might ask. Excellent question!

<Sergei Tkachenko> translates Лоран as "Laurent," and so does <Google>.

If you put Н.Лоран into Google translator it gives N. Laurent.

<Stonehenge>

You know what I think- I think that Alexey Popovsky over at rusbase goes for the most accurate transliteration when he converts a name from Russian to English. So he gives it as "Loran."

I think that some others, including Sergei Tkachenko and the Russian editors at Google translate, prefer to find a homynym that is a more recognizable name in the target language.

So "Laurent" would sound like "Loran," but only if you pronounced in French.

<Stonehenge>

Having thought about this, absent further information, I would go either way on it. I think both translations have merit.

<Stonehenge> I don't consider a preponderance of non-Russian website spelling choices to be necessarily definitive- given that they are not run by Russians, the three you have listed?

There are pluses and minuses here.

On the one hand, they tend to copy the most popular name, which is actually a benefit in my opinion.

On the other hand, Russian sources for a Russian name would likely be more accurate, or at least reflect what Russians would like to see. I could also see that as a benefit.

What about N E Loran / V M Vladimirov?

<Stonehenge> Sure that sounds good then.

<Stony> LOLOLOL

No he didn't use Google transalate ahahahahahah

He has an actual translator who isn't a robot for his books.

HAHAHAH I want to write him a letter now and ask him if he translated his book with google.

<Stony> That was fast! Excellent work brah.

This conversation reminded me of pre-google conversations where two or more people try to figure something out with no immediate way of finding the real answer.

This was an activity that got way more fun, and way more inaccurate, the more pints you downed.

Here is a nice book of chess history in Russian:

http://chess45.ru/historychess/cont...