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Salomon Flohr vs Mikhail Botvinnik
Botvinnik - Flohr (1933), Moscow / Leningrad RUS, rd 4, Dec-03
Dutch Defense: Rubinstein Variation (A84)  ·  1/2-1/2



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  nasmichael: Any other games with this sequence in any other database seen by the community? How have similar games ended? The masters of the day agreed to a draw--would you?

Fritz, although clever, is not the final word. Curious about Crafty, if she is paying attention, and her idea on the matter. Still, she also does not take final word. What do the humans say?

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  Gypsy: This is my quick read of the final position: White has better structure, Black has dynamic compensations. As White, I would play this for a win, but I would not be too devastated if Black managed to trade-in his time and space assets and successfully fix most or all of his structural problems. As Black, I would view a draw agreement as the pragmatic decision.

But, events outside of the position may have had much of influence on this game. It is hardly disputed that, after he got into the 2:0 lead, Flohr was essentially bought off, on Botvinnik's behalf, to draw the match.

The 1933 match was effectively the beginning of the end of Flohr's glory-days. It was not the match itself, however, but rather the events in Germany that took Flohr out of the real WC contention. Flohr was a Jewish orphan, a child survivor of a pogrom. After Hitler took over Germany, Flohr no longer had the nerves to play for world championship. His chess became the currency he traded for the safety and livelihood for himself and his family.

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