Mikhail Botvinnik vs Salomon Flohr (1935)

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Mikhail Botvinnik vs Salomon Flohr
Moscow (1935), Moscow URS, rd 18, Mar-12
Sicilian Defense: Old Sicilian. Open (B32) · 1/2-1/2

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Aug-04-09		Dredge Rivers: Tied for first place in the next to last round of a major tournament, and they produce THIS snorefest!?! Papa Joe should have sent them both to the Gulag! :)

May-15-11		jessicafischerqueen: <Botvinnik> and <Flohr> came equal first in this tournament. Here is a short film clip of them playing, followed by receiving the prize of a gold watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vaq1...

May-15-11		bartonlaos: <jessicafischerqueen> How certain are you that the video is from the Moscow 1935 tournament? Because I don't see that the clip corresponds to this game. For starters, I can't find any move combinations from this game that match the motions in the video. My guess is that the clip documents Game 1 of their 1933 match, Botvinnik vs Flohr, 1933 . This is because Black appears to capture a pawn on a mostly empty board, and to my eyes White responds with a pawn to c4 (3.cxd5 4. c4). (There's another game from the match with this combination of moves, Game 9, but then why would they have bothered to preserve that - which is why I've guessed that it's from Game 1.) Their 1933 match was tied, like the 1935 tournament results. Maybe they were both awarded gold watches as well? Game Collection: Botvinnik-Flohr Match 1933 I think at the very least the clip should be rechecked by whomever posted the video, and information changed if necessary.

May-15-11		jessicafischerqueen: <Bartonlaos> I think you are correct about the chess playing clip depicting game one of the 1933 match. That's some nice game board reconstruction on your part, good eyes and good logic too. I suspect the second clip, however, is indeed from the Moscow 1935 International Tournament, where they got the gold watches. I think it is two different film clips, one from each of the two events.

May-15-11		jessicafischerqueen: This description of the footage is more likely to be accurate- Thanks to <Bartonlaos> for his work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs_6...

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