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J Smith vs Ernest Morphy
Cincinatti (1858), Cincinatti, OH USA
King's Gambit: Accepted. Kieseritsky Gambit Long Whip (C39)  ·  0-1



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Jun-09-05  ckr: ckr: <Calli> recently noted that this game is not in the MyMorphy.pgn at the <SBC> Morphy site

What is known about this game??

The game is not in Shibut, Maroczy, Sergeant or Lawson's works.

It is likely that the game's source is the from the PITT ftp site dated 2/11/1998, which, I believe, was an extract of 'King Gambits' from the CA database. However, the game is no longer included in the database currently delivered with CA-8. So I would suspect that the game was bogus and that CA has subsequently removed the game.

Can anyone source this game or place some authenticity to it?

Morphy has only 8 recorded games where an opponent lasted over 65 moves (3 Lowenthal, 2 Anderssen, 1 Thompson and 2 with Maurian) so this in itself is quite a feat.

If the year and local are correct (and we spell Cincinati as Cincinnati) it would have most likely been between May 31 and June 8, enroute from N.O. to NYC on his way to England.

While going through the First Americam Chess Congress I saw a mention of a "Le Roy Smith" from Cincinnati who is listed as being a member on the Committee Of Co-Operation for the First American Chess Congress in 1857. My mind immediately shot back to this bogus game. Although "Le Roy" is a far cry from "J" I have seen far stranger things.

It is possible that Paul Morphy may have stopped in Cincinnati on his way to New York as well as possible that he may have known LeRoy Smith from the Congress and Paul may have met with him and played a game and finally LeRoy may have said "Hey, just call me Joe". Whew, that is a lot of "May Have's".

I am certainly not trying to claim this is a real Morphy Game. I am more curious about the game because, most likely, it is not a Morphy Game.

Another possibility is that since Ernest Morphy lived in Ohio it could simply be another Ernest game assumed to be Pauls, wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

I am sure others interested would appreciate any information about this game.

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  InspiredByMorphy: <ckr> Great post. I dont have any detailed information your looking for regarding the authenticity of this game, but after looking at it, I can agree this is not Morphy. According to the database Morphy always played 5. ...Nf6 L Elkin vs Morphy, 1857
Adolf Anderssen vs Morphy, 1858
Harrwitz vs Morphy, 1858
H Baucher vs Morphy, 1858
Adolf Anderssen vs Morphy, 1858

This is the only game of "Morphy's" in which he played 5. ...h5 . I dont buy it.

Jun-09-05  sneaky pete: Black is his uncle Ernest Morphy. Played October 25, 1858, published in the Cincinnati Dispatch, 1858 (information from the Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess).
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  WannaBe: <sneaky pete> A friend of mine gave me a copy of the OEC Vol I. (He had a duplicate) and I was wondering, how many volumns are there? And what is the last year covered? Is it worth the investment to have the whole set? Thanks
Jun-10-05  sneaky pete: <WannaBe> Only that first volume appeared, I believe there were no funds to continue the projected series.
Jun-10-05  ckr: <InspiredByMorphy I don't Buy It>Very good point. If Morphy, known for rapid development, played h5 it does leave black very much underdeveloped.

<SneakyPete Black is his uncle Ernest Morphy. Played October 25, 1858, published in the Cincinnati Dispatch, 1858 (information from the Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess).> Now I would say that is surely ID'ing it. Thanks

Nice to know that you can count on the Kibitzers to fill in the blanks.

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  Calli: <ckr> Chess Monthly December 1858 publishes another by these players, a loss by E Morphy. Fiske gives Uncle Ernie's opponent as J R Smith of Cincinnati. They played 7 games with E. Morphy holding a 4 to 3 edge.
Jan-27-06  ckr: <Calli> The Oxford Encyclopedia aside from the 5 games played against Paul has only 2 other games played by Ernest, which are both here. Before Paul's arrival on the Chess scene Ernest was the strongest player in New Orleans. Perhaps CG would add the game from the monthly, regardless of that please send it to me. Thanks in advance.
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  Calli: I will get around to entering it eventually, but not right away. So Oxford only gives the Forde game and this one. There might be another one in CM somewhere.

BTW- I also noticed the Janisch vs Von Der Lasa 1842 game in CM. Perhaps Lawson got it from CM and mixed it up with some Morphy games from the same source.

Jul-06-06  KingG: How did White lose this game?

He got a bit lucky in the opening with 10.Qe2?, when 10...Qe7! would more or less have equalized. Better was 10.Bxf4, which gives White a clear edge.

At move 19, better was 19.Qg5+ Qg6 20.Qxg6+ fxg6 21.d6+

But still, White ends up a pawn ahead in the endgame, with the better pieces, and shouldn't have lost. Unfortunately, he played very poorly in the endgame, and made way too many inaccuracies.

May-23-15  chessgamer2000: Long Whip?

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