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| Aug-02-06 | | Halldor: Got this rather quickly, mainly because I wanted to get the bishop off the e-file (for ♖f8-e8+) and the bishop sac would also clear the way for the queen to the second rank. (The pinned rook was the first thing I noticed at first glance along with the difficult position of the white king.) |
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| Aug-02-06 | | mikejaqua: Re1+ was my answer. <al wazir> seems to have thought of it too and it does look like it wins. Though not as quickly and cleanly as Bxc3 |
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| Aug-02-06 | | awfulhangover: I found Bf4. Anything wrong with that? |
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Aug-02-06
 | | gawain: Got it quickly, on the premise that W takes the bishop 37 bxc3. Did not consider any other white replies, though. Thanks <Random Visitor> for showing the win after 37 Rf1. I especially liked 45 ...a4 to keep the K from escaping to b3. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | greensfield: Great! Got this one. Considered 36...Bxc3, as whites assumed reply 37. bxc3, clears the file and rank centred on the white king for attacks by both black rooks and queen. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | Marco65: Answering to myself: 36...Re8 37.Qc6 and Black is not clearly winning (probably best try is 37...Re8+ 38.Kxe8 Bxc3+ 39.Kf1 Qxd3+ 40.Kg2 Rg8+ 41.Kh3... and now?) |
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| Aug-02-06 | | YouRang: I found 36...Bxc3 fairly quickly (a forcing move that opens multiple threats: ...Re1# and ...Re8+). It seems that bxc3 is the only reply, which (I noticed) opens the 2nd rank for attack. For some dumb reason, I spent a lot of time trying to make 37...Qa2+ work. Finally, I considered 37...Re8+, and things fell into place nicely: White would have to give up his queen to delay mate. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | buzzymind: Yep, I got this, but for some odd reason it took more time than normally for a Wednesday problem. The key for me was seeing ...♕a2 mate if bxc3 after ...♖e8+. Also black is threatening mate. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | jhoro: this guy Kramnik is winning with white and black 7 days a week. amazing! |
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| Aug-02-06 | | The17thPawn: Nice sack! really looking forward to the World championship match this fall and what I hope will be some outstanding chess if Kramnik makes it back to top form. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | ChessVip: this is the week of Kramnik?
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| Aug-02-06 | | kevin86: I too went for 34...♗f4 restraining the king and threatening ♖e8+ |
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| Aug-02-06 | | Brent Baccala: Why can't white answer 38. Qe3, intending to meet 38... Qa2+ with 39. Rd2 ? It still looks like a lost endgame for white after 39... Rxe3+ 40. Kxe3 Qxa3 (or something similar), but can white starve off mate, or does black have another big shot I'm missing? |
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| Aug-02-06 | | buzzymind: <Brent>
Yes, of course it is always better to avoid mate quickly. I don’t have a chess board or a computer, but from what I can see off the bat is perhaps after 38. ♕e3 ♖xe3 39. ♔xe3 f4+ 40. ♔e2 (not 40. ♔d2 as ♕a2 mates) and now we go 40…♕e6+ and if 41. ♔d2 ♕e1+ should lead to mate as if 42. ♔c2 ♕b1+ 43. ♔d2 ♕b2# |
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| Aug-02-06 | | TheSlid: Yes indeed, <ChessVip> and next month will doubtless see the Month of Kramnik. He will retain the WCC, much to the chagrin of the vocal majority. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | handro1104: What I saw was 36 rd1 37k*r q*r+ 38ke1 bd4 39 re8# (38 kc1 Bf4#)
Please tellm me what I am missing. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | RonB52734: I missed this one. I saw it was Kramnik and kept thinking it must be "Black to play and draw." |
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| Aug-02-06 | | YouRang: <handro1104: What I saw was 36 rd1 37k*r q*r+ 38ke1 bd4 39 re8# (38 kc1 Bf4#) Please tellm me what I am missing.> Hi handro. If 36...Rd1 (putting double attack on the d3 rook), White doesn't have to play 37. Kxd1. Better is 37. Qe3, adding another defender. I believe Black's attack is then slowed down, if not snuffed out altogether. |
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| Aug-02-06 | | RandomVisitor: My Rd1 line would go 36...Rd1 37.Qe3 Bf4 38.Qd4+ Qxd4 39.Rxd4 +0.31. Rb1 is possible: 36...Rb1 37.Qe3 f4 38.Qe4 Rxb2+ 39.Ke1 Rb1+ 40.Rd1 Bxc3+ 41.Rfd2 Bxd2+ 42.Kxd2 Rb2+ 43.Ke1 Qxe4+
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| Aug-02-06 | | BishopofBlunder: <RonB52734: I missed this one. I saw it was Kramnik and kept thinking it must be "Black to play and draw."> One never tires of the classics... |
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Aug-03-06
 | | LIFE Master AJ: I am afraid that I am a day late ...
I looked at this shortly after noon yesterday, but I never got back to it. (I also looked at it for about 10-15 minutes last night.) My first thought, was "Oh no, Vlatko Kovacevic getting hammered?!?!???" Then I realized that this was not the case. (Wrong player.) My first try at a solution was 36...Re8; ('?!') that old ... "threaten to threaten" philosophy. (I am not sure if I can hammer a win out of that or not.) The second thing that I looked at was 36...Rb1!?; this probably also will win ... but there is something better. (What Kramnik played.) A suggestion to the operators of this site, they come up with a tier of awards for kibitzers. <RandomVisitor> needs to be inducted into the kibitzer "Hall of Fame." Also worthy of recognition - for the depth and consideration of their posts - are <YouRang> and <patzer2>. Just a thought ...
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| Aug-03-06 | | whatthefat: <LMAJ: My first thought, was "Oh no, Vlatko Kovacevic getting hammered?!?!???" Then I realized that this was not the case. (Wrong player.)>
No, it actually is Kovacevic "getting hammered", by Kramnik! |
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| Aug-03-06 | | Richerby: <whatthefat: No, it actually is Kovacevic "getting hammered", by Kramnik!'> Yes but it's Aleksandar Kovacevic.
AJ was worried about Vladimir Kovacevic getting hammered. |
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| Aug-03-06 | | YouRang: <LMAJ> Thanks for the mention, but I think: (1) Others are far more worthy than I -- <al wazir> and <jahhaj> come to mind, but there are others. (2) I can't imagine that <chesssgames.com> would be interested in administering something like a 'kibitzing hall of fame', where the criteria is so subjective and debatable. But, again, thanks. :-) |
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| Aug-04-06 | | whatthefat: <Richerby>
Ah, I see. Thanks. |
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