May-18-25 | | mel gibson: I chose 38. .. Rf2+ as well but it loses and
Black is checkmated - LOL.
Stockfish 17 chooses:
38. .. Rg1+
(38. .. Rg1+ (1. ... Rg1+ 2.Kf3 g4+ 3.Kf4 Rf1+ 4.Kg3 Bf2+ 5.Kg2
Rg1+ 6.Kxf2 Rg2+ 7.Kxg2 Qxe2+ 8.Kg1 Qe1+ 9.Kg2) 0.00/71 75) score = 0.00 _ it's a draw.
If I force SF to play the game ply:
38. .. Rf2+
39. Kg3 (39. Kg3 (1.Kg3 Qa3+ 2.Kg4 Qxh3+ 3.Kxh3 Rxe2 4.Qxe2 Be5
5.Nxe5 dxe5 6.Qxe5 Kf7 7.Kg4 Kg6 8.d6 c4 9.d7 Kf7 10.Kf5 g4 11.d8Q c3
12.Qee7+) +M12/95 17)
White wins _ mate in 12. |
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May-18-25 | | Walter Glattke: 38.-Rg1+ 39.Kf3 Qb3+ 40.Ke4 Qb1+ 41.Rd3 (41.Kf3 Qf5 42.Nf4 Qxf4#) c4 Petite combinaison 42.Qh8+ Kxg6 43. Qxd5 cxd3 44.Qxg1 Qxg1 45.Kxd3 Qf1 win by simplification with pawn majority the stockfish move 2.g4 is not correct imao |
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May-18-25
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: For one brief shining moment (well, move), thought at the level of Stockfish and played the correct 38th move. <Walter Glattke>, couldn't follow your analysis, did you mean 42.Qh8+,Kf7; 43.Qf8+,Kxg6; also, after 42.Qh8+, can Black play 42...Bxh8? My apologies for whatever I missed. |
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May-18-25 | | Walter Glattke: I just checked out, after 43. Qg8+ instead 43.Qxd5 the black king cannot escape from perpetual, neither with 43.Bg7 not with 43.- Kh6, and nö way to king's wing with 43. - Kf6 44.Qe6+. So it's a draw then with 100% 0.0 |
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May-18-25 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: Let's try 38... Rf2+ (Capturing: 39.Rxf2 Qxf2+ 40. Kh1 Qg1#) 39. Kg3 (Now B cannot 39... Qxe2 40. Qh7#) Qc3+ 40. Kg4 and the king doesn't see any helping move. |
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May-18-25 | | Walter Glattke: Have a wrong king position. If Kg8, not Kg7, then 43.Ne7+ Kf8.. White escape to the queen's wing so far will allow Ne5xPc4 later, and White would win. So. stockfish is right, my combination fails with Kg8, needs Kg7. |
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May-18-25
 | | scormus: I agree that it's insane. However, 35 .... B to move would have made for a better puzzle, and a better insane. Try it! |
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May-18-25 | | vajeer: I found 38...Rg1+ 39. Kf3 g4+ 40. Kf4 Rf1+ 41. Kg3 and then was happy to play 42. Rg1+ Kf4 43. Rf1+ Kg3 perpetual. Given yesterday's experience i was sure draw was the solution! |
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May-18-25 | | vajeer: <scormus: 35 .... B to move would have made for a better puzzle, and a better insane. Try it!> Good point! Now that is an insane puzzle. |
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May-18-25 | | vajeer: I find it a bit wierd thar SF chooses to sacrifice a rook and bishop to draw by perpetual anatway; as if it is mimicking a human player showbaoting ;-) |
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May-18-25
 | | chrisowen: I q mung it is whip jut v it is z Rf2 fig faith it is about lo it is at bio it is Rf2 buff... |
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May-18-25 | | mdz: 38...Rg1+ 39. Kf3 Qb3+ 40. Ke4 Qb1+ 41. Rd3 Rf1 and it is W who is forced to draw by perpetual to avoid being mated: 42. Ne7+ Kf8 43. Qxg5 Bf6 44. Qg8+ Kxe7 45. Qe6+ Kd8 46. Qxd6+ Kc8 47. Qxc5+ Kb8 48. Qf8+ Ka7 49.Qc5+ Kb8 |
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May-18-25 | | mdz: Also 38...Rg1+ 39. Kf3 Qb3+ 40. Ke4 Qb1+ 41. Rd3 c4 leads to the same result: 42.Ne7+ Kf8 43. Qh6+ Bg7 44. Rf2+ Ke8 45. Qg6+ Kd7 46. Qe6+ Kc7 47. Qc8+ Kb6 48. Qd8+ Kb5 49. Qd7+ Ka5 50. Nc6+ Kb6 51. Qd8+ Kc5 52. Qa5+ b5 53. Qa3+ Kb6 54. Qa5+ with perpetual. |
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