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Aug-04-16
 | | HeMateMe: didn't korchnoi beat carlsen at about age 70? |
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Aug-04-16
 | | mjmorri: <offramp: It is very funny how the American and English meanings of the word "Class" are so 180° opposite!> I have heard this about a billion..errr..1000 million times. |
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Aug-04-16
 | | offramp: <mjmorri: <offramp: It is very funny how the American and English meanings of the word "Class" are so 180° opposite!>
I have heard this about a billion..errr..1000 million times.> Class! Mate, class!! |
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| Oct-21-16 | | Demna: How could white Continue After 26:..gxnf6? |
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May-19-17
| | offramp: <Demna: How could white Continue After 26:..gxnf6?> 26....gx♘f6.
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27.Qxh6+ Ke7 28.dxe6.
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Black cannot recapture this pawn: 28...fxe6 would let the queen check at g7. So White would stay two pawns ahead, which would be enough to win even if his attack didn't succeed. |
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| May-31-19 | | agb2002: Black threatens Rxh8 and Qxf6.
The black queen is defenseless. This suggests 28.Rxe6+ fxe6 29.Qxg7+ Nf7 (29... Kd6 30.Ne4+ and 31.Qxb2 wins decisive material) 30.d6+ (30.Ng8+ Rxg8 wins for Black) 30... Rxd6 (30... Kxd6 31.Ne4+ and 32.Qxb2 + - [Q+N+P vs r]) 31.Nd5+ R(e)xd5 32.Qxb2 + - [Q+P vs r+n]. |
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May-31-19
 | | al wazir: Got it- - rather to my surprise. |
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| May-31-19 | | LoveThatJoker: 28. Rxe6+ fxe6 29. Qxg7+ Nf7 (the toughest defence, as 29...Kd6 30. Ne4+ and White wins the Q)) 30. d6+ Rxd6 (30...Kxd6 31. Ne4+ for the Lady) 31. Nd5+ and 32. Qxb2. LTJ |
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| May-31-19 | | Fire Fred: 28. Rxe6+ fxe6 29. Qxg7+ Kd6 30. Ne4+ Kxd5 31. Q-
xb2
Does it work this way? |
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| May-31-19 | | patzer2: For today's Friday puzzle solution, 28. Rxe6+! +- initiates a discovered attack with check combination to win Black's unprotected Queen on b2. So where did Black go wrong? Black's game took a turn for the worse with 16...Ba4? 17. Qh7+ ± (+0.82 @ 29 ply, Stockfish 10). Instead, 16...Nf5 17. Ng3 Rac8 ∓ (-1.04 @ 31 ply, Stockfish 10) would have maintained a strong advantage for Black. |
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| May-31-19 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Fun one.
Material is dead even, but White's queen and knight are both hanging, and 28 Qxg7 doesn't save either of them. 28 d6+ briefly looks interesting as a diversion, but 28 ... Kxf6 shuts that down. So 28 Rxe6+ is the only try. Fortunately, it turns out that White can indeed force a successful discovered attack on Black's queen. |
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| May-31-19 | | stacase: Maybe over the board I would see that 30.Ng8+ doesn't work - Duh! But how serendipitous is it that Black's Queen just happens to line up for the Knight's discovered attack - and White's d5 Pawn says check when it vacates the necessary square for the Knight to complete the act? The rest is winning the "won game" which those little sayings when you post says is the hardest thing to do. |
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| May-31-19 | | malt: 28.R:e6+ fe6 29.Q:g7+ Nf7
(29...Kd6 30.Ne4+ and 31.Q:b2 )
30.d6+
(30.Ng8+?? R:g8 )
30...R:d6
(30...K:d6 31.Ne4+ )
31.Nd5+ and 32.Q:b2 |
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| May-31-19 | | dannydoc: f4 seems to me to be a better move. It leads to the earlier capture of the Rook, and a faster end game. |
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| May-31-19 | | Rama: What a rich position! |
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May-31-19
 | | FSR: 28.Rxe6+ fxe6 29.Qxg7+ Nf7 (29...Kd6 30.Ne4+) 30.d6+ Rxd6 31.Nd5+ and 32.Qxb2 leaves White with a winning material advantage. |
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May-31-19
 | | gawain: I guessed that the winning combination would start with Rxe6+ but I did not see the discovered attack on the Black queen. Nifty. |
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| May-31-19 | | TheaN: And again I stump myself on 'silly' moves like 28.Qxg7 (which seems to be the main move, but just fails on 28....Qxf6 29.d6+ Rxd6 -+ and White's out of attacking options), even 28.d6+ (Kxf6 -+) and even briefly 28.Rab1 (Qxb1! -+). Of course <28.Rxe6+> and it all falls into place. Smyslov saw it early, otherwise he wouldn't have played into it at all. <28....fxe6 29.Qxg7+> now with tempo <29....Nf7 (Kd6 30.Ne4+ +-) 30.d6+ Rxd6 (Kxd6 31.Ne4+ +-) 31.Nd5+ Rxd5 32.Qxb2> ± to +-... although clearly winning for White it's usually not that easy. |
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| May-31-19 | | TheaN: 'Swapping moves' runs into 28.Qxg7 Qxf6 29.Rxe6+ Qxe6 30.dxe6 Rg8, and now the threat of Rg8 is important. White can salvage a somewhat defendable endgame with 31.Qg3 (Kxe6! -+) but of course it doesn't work. |
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| May-31-19 | | SpamIAm: <stacase>, always look out for the x-ray, even when there's TWO "bodies" in the way, in this case white's knight and black's g-pawn. I didn't see it at first because the old wisdom is indeed true- long backwards moves, particularly long backwards diagonal ones, are the hardest to see. There's a tendency to think, willy nilly, that one must always 'attack' and move the wood forward. |
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| May-31-19 | | mel gibson: I saw the right move but couldn't be bothered calculating it.
Stockfish 10 agrees with the main line:
28. Rxe6+
(28. Rxe6+ (♖e1xe6+ f7xe6 ♕h8xg7+ ♘h6-f7
d5-d6+ ♖d8xd6 ♘f6-d5+ ♖d6xd5 ♕g7xb2 ♘f7-d6 ♖a1-c1 ♖a8-d8 ♕b2-b4 ♔e7-f6
♔g1-f1 ♖d8-d7 ♖c1-e1 ♘d6-f5 ♕b4-f8+ ♖d7-f7 ♕f8-h8+ ♘f5-g7 ♕h8-h6+ ♔f6-e7
♕h6-h4+ ♔e7-d6 ♕h4-d8+ ♖f7-d7 ♕d8-b8+ ♔d6-e7 ♕b8xa7 ♔e7-f7 ♔f1-g2 ♖d5-g5+
♔g2-h1 ♖g5-d5 ♕a7-b8 ♘g7-e8 ♖e1-e4 ♘e8-f6 ♖e4-b4 ♖d5-a5 ♔h1-g2 ♔f7-g6 f3-f4
♖a5xa3 ♕b8-f8 ♖d7-f7 ♕f8-d6 ♖a3-a6 ♕d6-e5 ♘f6-d5 ♖b4-b3 ♖f7xf4 ♖b3-g3+
♔g6-f7 ♖g3-g7+ ♔f7-f8) +4.70/38 152)
score for White +4.70 depth 38 |
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| May-31-19 | | cormier: 14.Be3 Nxc3 15.bxc3 Qc7 16.Bd3 b6 17.Qe2 Bb7 18.Nd2 Be7 = -0.04 (28 ply) |
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| May-31-19 | | cormier: 13.Be3 Rd8 14.Rac1 Bd7 15.Na4 Qc7 16.b4 Rac8 17.Qd2 a6 = +0.29 (30 ply) |
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| Jun-01-19 | | Granny O Doul: White starts out all subtle and sophisticated with Bd3 and Qc2, but once the heat of battle is on, instinct takes over and he wants the queen in front after all. |
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| Nov-07-20 | | fisayo123: Ribli was probably top 10 or close to it at the time of this match, in the prime of his career but was defeated by Smyslov here who was 63 in this Candidates semi-finals. A tremendous upset. And this spectacular game was the best of the match. |
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sac: 28.Rxe6+