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Mihai Suba vs Jan Timman
Thessaloniki Olympiad (1984), Thessaloniki GRE, rd 5, Nov-23
English Opening: King's English Variation. General (A20)  ·  1-0

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Jan-08-06
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  nasmichael: Play from the position at move 30--try a couplet of games, once as black and once as white, to discover some interesting relationships between these pieces. Knight, Bishop, and Rook can each have benefits beyond what you may already see, in open space and in closed space.
Dec-31-08  Gmonster: Hi NasMichael- Very interesting. Would you mind taking a look at my recent game with the English? Maybe tell me where I went wrong in the game? Or at least what the critical point in the game was?

Was it 35. Ke3, but I should have played Bd1 instead?

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2008.12.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "gmonster"]
[Black "tokyotim"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ChessCat "CHESSCAT 1.0"]
[PlyCount "78"]

1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nc6 3. Bg2 Nf6 4. Nc3 d6 5. e3 Be6 6. d3 Bg4 7. Nge2 g6 8. h3 Bf5 9. e4 Be6 10. O-O Bg7 11. Nd5 O-O 12. Bg5 h6 13. f4 hxg5 14. fxg5 Nh5 15. Qd2 Nd4 16. Nxd4 exd4 17. Rae1 Nxg3 18. Rf3 c6 19. Nf4 Nh5 20. Nxh5 gxh5 21. Ref1 Qd7 22. g6 fxg6 23. Qg5 Rf6 24. Rxf6 Bxf6 25. Qxg6+ Qg7 26. Rxf6 Qxg6 27. Rxg6+ Kf7 28. Rh6 b5 29. Rxh5 bxc4 30. dxc4 Rg8 31. Rh7+ Ke8 32. Kf2 Bxc4 33. a4 d3 34. Bf3 d2 35. Ke3 Rg3 36. Kf2 Rxf3+ 37. Kxf3 d1=Q+ 38. Ke3 Qc1+ 39. Kd4 c5# 0-1

Jan-08-09  Gmonster: Hi Nasmichael - What online (or offline) chess program can I use to set-up the position and play (I assume against a computer)? So I play from White (vs the computer) starting at move 30, then from Black (vs. the Computer). I like the idea, just not sure how to go about doing it.
Apr-03-09  Everett: Suba could have merely walked the king up the Q-side and eaten some pawns starting on move 30. Black has no moves to free his game.
Oct-03-11  DrGridlock: Suba comments on this game in his book, "Dynamic Chess Strategy." Suba's note after black's 20'th move ... Rxg1 is:

"20 ... Bg7 allows a pretty combination which wins two pawns at least. The reader is invited to find it by himself."

I did some (futile) searching before turning to Rybka for some help. Rybka finds:

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Analysis by Rybka 2.2n2 mp 32-bit :

1. (2.18): 21.Rg2 Ne6 22.Qxd8+ Rbxd8 23.Rdg1 Nxf4 24.Rxg7+ Kf6 25.Rxg8 Rxg8 26.Rxg8 Nxh5 27.Rb8 Ke6

2. (1.94): 21.Rg6 Kf8 22.Rd6 Bh8 23.Na4 Rg7 24.Nb6 Kg8 25.Qb4 Ne8 26.Rxh6 Nf6 27.Nxd7 Nxd7

3. (1.29): 21.Ng6+ Kf6 22.f3 exf3 23.Rdf1 Nb5 24.Qb4 a5 25.Qb3 Nxc3 26.Qxc3 Kf7 27.Ne5+

4. (1.23): 21.Qb4 Kf8 22.Ng6+

5. (0.96): 21.Nce2 Ne6 22.Qb4 a5 23.Qa3 Nxf4 24.Nxf4 Bf6 25.Rxg8 Qxg8 26.Qxa5 Qd8 27.Ng6+

Rybka's best continuation - Rg2 - doesn't strike me as a "pretty combination." Is this what Suba had in mind, or can anyone else find a "pretty combination" in this position?

Jun-02-15  Bycotron: I love the position after black's 16th move!

Timman had chosen to keep his King in the center and as yet he is not subject to direct attack. Without getting into specific analysis, he must have been dreaming of moves like c5, b5-b4, Nb5 and eventually d5 or h5, opening the f8 Bishop's diagonal and getting most of his pieces pointed toward Suba's king!

Suba is right on the mark with 17.c5! immediately casting a cloud of eminent doom over the black Kingdom. Further resistance is possible, but survival is not!

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