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| May-04-18 | | Justin796: Tal is the reason I enjoy chess, the imagination part. Engines suck. Long live the magician! |
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| May-04-18 | | ChessHigherCat: Yeah, there aren't too many demeaning statements you could make about this game, pure brilliance. |
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| Oct-19-18 | | jonjoseph: I am starting to collect ways that Tal uses the Queen as a bait for distraction . One game he plays a game within a game to surround the oposition Queen and suddenly drops all that and launches an attack on the King . So the way he was thinking is totally different to an engine. It`s not so much a list of moves but broad themes that might be used in war games. Themes that a non player would understand . |
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| Apr-28-19 | | stridergene: Tal is the best when making sacrifices |
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Feb-25-22
 | | PawnSac: < Justin796: Tal is the reason I enjoy chess, the imagination part. Engines suck. Long live the magician! > Unfortunately he died 30 years ago, but
< Tal's games are immortal ! > |
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May-04-22
 | | Knighthawkmiller: +0.68 (25 ply) 13.Rd3 Nxc4 14.Qe1 Bb7 15.h4 h5 16.Qc1 a5 holds a slight improvement for white vs the game 13. Rc1. |
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| Oct-15-22 | | Marcelo Bruno: An approximated similarity with the famous Labourdonnais-McDonnell 50th game? Compare with La Bourdonnais vs McDonnell, 1834 in terms of the Queen sacrifice. |
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| Jan-16-25 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: The first idea was 24...Na4 25. Bxa4? Bxa4 26. Re1 (or similar) Bxd4 27. Qxd4 Bc2#. Refusing the capture, 25. Re1 Nc3+ 26. Kxb2 Nb5 27. Kb1 Nxd4 28. Rc1 Rxc1+ 29. Kxc1 Rc8+ 30. Kd1 Bb5 31. Qd2 Ne2 32. Qd5 Rc1+ 33. Kd2 Bh6+ 34. f4 Bxf4#. B has resources to win the game after capturing the ♘ at d4. While after 29... Rc8+ 30. Kb1 Bb5 31. Qd2 Ne2 32. a4 Rc1+ 33. Qxc1 Nxc1 34. axb5 Nxb3 35. bxa6 Bd4 36. Ka2 Na5 37. Ka3 Nc6 38. Ka4 Na7 39. Ka5 Bc5... win. Maybe, W resigns before all that. |
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| Jan-16-25 | | Mayankk: A Tal game.
Black has already 'sacrificed' his Queen for R+B and has managed to plant his pawn at b2. All the White pieces are performing defensive duties, which gives Black enough time to plan his next line of attack. 24 ... Na4 25 Bxa4 Bxa4 idea, attacking the White Rook which can't leave the last rank, was easy enough to spot. Also with the Bishop at a4. Black is also threatening 26 ... Bxd4 27 Qxd4 Bc2#. So that meant White will likely play 26 Nb3. After 26 ... Rc3, I reckoned Black was calling all the shots and the furthest I could get. |
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| Jan-16-25 | | mel gibson: I chose the same ply but it took me a good minute. Stockfish 17 says:
24. .. Na4
(24. .. Na4 (1. ... Na4 2.Bxa4 Bxa4 3.Nb3 Rc3 4.Qe2 Rbc8 5.Qxb2 Rb8 6.Qxc3 Bxc3 7.Kc2 Bf6
8.Kd2 a5 9.Kc2 Bd7 10.Rb1 Kg7 11.Nd2 Rc8+ 12.Kd1 Ba4+ 13.Nb3 h5 14.g3 Rc3
) +7.28/45 397)
score for Black +7.28 depth 45. |
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Jan-16-25
 | | Check It Out: Tal walks through the forest once again. |
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Jan-16-25
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Already knew this one, but still fun to study again--after all, it's Tal. |
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| Jan-16-25 | | morea: When I looked at the position, my first thought was, how did that lone Pawn get so deep behind enemy lines?! My second thought was to try to use it as a foothold. Perhaps 24...Rc1+ 25. Rxc1 bxc1=Q+ 26. Kxc1 Rc8+? But White just steps out of check and the attack ends. Then I noticed 24...Na4 with the threat of a fork on c3. That's good, so let's try it. White can block it with 25. Ne2, after which we go for another fork: 25...Nc5 26. Qd5 with a threat on f7, which we block with 26...Nxb3 27. axb3 and what now? In this position the g7-b2 diagonal opened up and the Bishop controls it, and we have our vanguard on b2. Can we use it for a mating attack on the a file? 27...Rb5 28. Qd3 Ra5 and we are almost in position for Ra1#, but again White can block the attack with 29. Nd4 and I got stuck here. I was then trying 24...Rc5 to double up the Rooks on the c file, but couldn't get meaningful progress. Next I tried 24...a5 to lodge the Bishop out of its place, but I think White survives even after the reckless 25. Kxb2 (just to deal with the Pawn) a4 26. Bc2 Nc4+ 27. Kc3 Ne3+ 28. Kd2 Nxd1 29. Kxd1. At this point I gave up. In a real game I'd probably play 24...Rc5, and hope that some opportunity presents itself later. ==================
Looking at the solution, I don't think the text line was necessarily better than what I chose after 24...Na4. The Bishop exchange allows the d7 Bishop to enter action with tempo, that's why I preferred 24... Na4 25. Ne2 instead. After that White ran into a mate in 3 with 29. Qa3? Instead 29. Qf1 Rc1+ 30. Rxc1 bxc1=Q+ 31. Qxc1 Rxc1+ 32. Kxc1, but the b Pawn will never be able to promote, and playing a Bishop down against Tal is a loss anyway. |
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Jan-16-25
 | | chrisowen: Er v its wind quilly its Na4 glad ado no fog fig its ebb aka its huck its Na4 its aid. |
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| Jan-16-25 | | TheaN: Sort of missed this one, though I kind of used the same ideas with a different execution that <seems> to work. Will be honest I wasn't 100% sure and Tal's concept of trading to go up one piece in the attack is much more straightforward, somehow discard Na4 early on as I was approaching it as a sac. I chose <24....Bh6?!> which does muddy the waters significantly. Black threatens Rc1+ with Nc4+, given the bishop's now guarding c1. This is surprisingly resilient as long as the b-pawn is on the board, so <25.Kxb2!? Na4+! 26.Ka1> other squares are just worse as the king stays in line of fire of the rooks, <26....Nc5 -+> (though there are more moves for Black here even):
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It's interesting as it almost seems like Black didn't progress, but White <still> can't mobilize his forces because the long diagonal and b-file are open. Bg7 (yes, back) and Ba4 are looming and we kind of get the game line just without Pb2, but White's still toast because Nd4 is a permanent weakness now. |
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Jan-16-25
 | | NM JRousselle: My idea was a5 followed by a4. The "fish" says this is about -5.5. The text is about -6.5. In either case, Black is easily winning. |
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Jan-16-25
| | chrisowen: Said and done Na4 d tal x ie no? :) |
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Jan-16-25
 | | scormus: <Thean ... Bh6?!> No, I'd mark it definitely !?, and
an instructive example of switching the line of attack. My thoughts invariably get tunnelled along the lines of going directly to where the action is, and I miss moves like that. I've lost games becasuse it too.
Today I wasn't sure between the text and 24 ... Na4?!, which SF rates as playable but a good deal weaker than ... Ba4, ... a5, and ... Bh6 for that matter. |
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Jan-16-25
| | chrisowen: I had x scomer um Na4 |
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| Jan-16-25 | | QueenMe: Seems easier than a Thursday puzzle. Almost intuitive. |
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| Jan-16-25 | | mel gibson: <24 ... Na4?!, which SF rates as playable but a good deal weaker than ... Ba4, ... a5, and ... Bh6 for that matter.> I know there were other contenders.
Are you saying that SF17 chose the wrong move? |
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Jan-16-25
| | chrisowen: [Black] Tal (2705)
[White] GrdM2K
Chess.com
1. e3 2c6 2, c4 e6 3. d4 d5 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Nc3 Be7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 a6 8. 0-0 b5 9. Bd3 0-0 10. a3 Bb7 11. Qe2 h6 12. Rd1 Qd6 13. e4 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Qxd4 15. e5 Qg4 16. f3 Bxf3 18.gxf3 Nd5 19. Be4 Nxc3 20. bxc3 Bc5+ 21. Kg2 Rfd8 22. Bb2 Rab8 23. f4 f5 24. exf6 gxf6 25. Bf3 Kf7 26. Rxd8 Rxd8 27. Rd1 Rxd1 28. Bxd1 Bd6 29. Bc1 c5 30. Bb3 c4 31. Bd1 f5 32. Bf3 a5 33. Kf2 Ke7 34. Bc6 b4 35. axb4 axb4 36. cxb4 Bxb4 37. Be3 Kd6 38. Ba4 Bc5 39. Bxc5+ Kxc5 40. Ke2 Kd4 41. Bd7 c3 42. Kd1 a5 43. fxe5 Kxe5 44. Kc2 f4 45. Kxc3 Ke4 46. Kd2 Kf3 49. Kf1 Ke3 50. Bg4 Kd4 51. Kg2 Ke3 52. Bf3 Kd3 53. Bg4 Ke4 54. Bf3+ Ke5 55. Bg4 Kd4 56. Bf3 Ke3 57. Bg4 Ke4 58. Bf3+ Ke3 59. Bg4 f3+ 60. Bxf3 Kf4 61. h4 Kf5 62. Kg3 Ke5 63. Kg4 Kd4 64. Kh5 Ke5 65. Kxh6 Kf6 66. Kh7 Kf5 67. h5 Ke5 68. Kg7 Kf5 69. h6 Kf4 70. h7 Kxf3 71. h8=Q Ke3 72. Qh4 Ke2 73. Qh3 Kd2 74. Kf6 Kc2 75. Ke5 Kd2 76. Ke4 Kc2 77. Qd3+ Kb2 78. Kd4 Ka2 79. Kc4 Kb2 80. Kb4 Ka2 81. Qd2+ Ka1 82. Ka3 Kb1 83. Qb2# |
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Jan-16-25
| | chrisowen: Sorry 2 Nc6 x |
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Jan-16-25
| | chrisowen: [Link "https://www.chess.com/analysis/game..."] |
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Jan-16-25
| | scormus: <mel. Are you saying that SF17 chose the wrong move?>
Sorry, my mistake, it's what I wrote but not what I meant. Somehow ... Na4 and ... Ba4 got mixed round in my head as I was posting.
And of course ...Na4 (not ... Ba4) WAS the text.
And yes, SF16 also has the order 24 ... Na4, ... Ba4, ... Bh6, with ... Ba4 last of those four. Thanks for picking up on it. |
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