| Sep-10-07 | | TheaN: 8.Bc1? Nb4 9.Qh5? Nc2+, but the general pitfall in this normally Scotch variation (moves 3 and 4 switched) is 9.Qd1 c2. The right play is 8.Nxc3! and White is much better. I drawed one game with it, though, as White, but White's clearly better. |
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Sep-10-07
 | | FSR: TheaN is right about 8.Nxc3 being best and 8.Bc1 being inferior. That said, White's resignation is decidely premature. After 10.Kd1 Nxa1 11.Nxc3, the knight is trapped and White should be able to win it with either (1) b3 and Bb2 or (2) Bd2 followed by Kc1-b1-xN. That will leave White with two knights for a rook and a pawn or two. In the middlegame, the pieces are definitely superior. Krabbe must have been in shock, having gone in such a short time from a position where he thought he was winning a piece for nothing to one where he was losing a rook. |
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| Sep-10-07 | | TheaN: Hm. The Shredder Database lists ONE game with 8.Bc1 (but only one with c3 etc) that continued 8....Nb4 9.Qh5 d5!? 10.exd5? Nc2+ 11.Kd1 Nxa1 and somehow Black pressured White and won. But I guess 8.Bc1 is just playable. |
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| Sep-10-07 | | TheaN: <(but only one with c3 etc)> Of course here, I mean the whole variation from c3 on. So read it as 'one at all'. |
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| Dec-01-07 | | Madjesoomalops: TK (me) did not resign but played on for some 20 moves.
White indeed has no better than the small advantage he keeps after 8.Nxc3 - but in the position after 6.Qd5, quite a few Black players have resigned. |
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| Sep-04-08 | | vonKrolock: quote <FSR: TheaN is right about 8.Nxc3 being best and 8.Bc1 being inferior.> According to www.chesslive.de, in games recorded since 1855, 8.♘xc3 scored +12 =4 -3, while 8.♗c1 scored +14 =1 -5 In the practice, the moves are roughly equal... |
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| Dec-14-15 | | TheaN: Want to get back to this variation 8 years after posting (my english back then, 'drawed' ugh). Thanks to Tim for actually replying to this well known game and Scotch gambit 'trap'): Apparantly best is 8.Bxg7!? on account of 8....Nb4? 9.Qe5! and now if black continues with 9....Nc2+ 10.Kd1 Nxa1?? 11.Bh8  and there's no true defense to the mating net. OTB however, white may discard this type of complications if unprepared. Second best and most solid is 8.Nxc3, white will get the front h-pawn somewhere along the line after 8....gxh6. Yet this doesn't offer any real advantage. The prosaic 8.Bc1?! in fact gives Black the major upper hand after 8....Nb4 9.Qh5 (still best) Nc2+  to  . If 9.Qd1, c2 indeed decides. Definitely an interesting blitz/rapid variation but those that have seen it once will not fall for it again. Yet, instead of looking at these improvements for Black they generally discard the Hungarian instead. |
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Dec-14-15
 | | offramp: Surely the game's only note should be, "White played on..." |
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Oct-11-20
| | FSR: I looked at this line with Stockfish 12 a few hours ago. It recommends 8.Bxg7 Kxg7 9.Nc3, giving White about a +1 advantage due to Black's compromised king position. Instead of 5...dxc3?!, best is 5...Na5! and Black is fine. |
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Jul-07-24
| | FSR: Almost everyone plays 9...Nc2+, understandably. But Stockfish 16.1 says that is equal and that Black should instead play 9...d5! 10.exd5 b5!, when White's best is 11.Nxc3 bxc4 12.O-O with a small advantage to Black (about -0.5). |
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Kibitzing
sac: 6...Nh6