Dec-02-05 | | notsodeepthought: What a game. Among the (many) points, 47 Q:c3 would be followed by Nd5+ while if 47 K:c3 then Qd4 mate. |
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Dec-02-05 | | kevin86: A remarkable finish! White has the (no) choice of losing his queen to a skewer on the rank or on the diagonal. The rank one uses the knight to keep the king from his queen. Queen and two knights vs queen-a win:never,oops,almost never. |
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Dec-02-05 | | blingice: Why would he sac his queen? |
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Dec-02-05 | | backyard pawn: <notsodeep> Why, yes! I hadn't noticed your second point. Good get. I just marvel at the coordination between the black pieces in this game. |
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Dec-02-05 | | greyfox: are the nmove all forced??? why did he gave two bishops for nothing?? |
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Dec-02-05 | | kellmano: Even with an exchange of queens, black would be winning here as white's remaining pawn is behind the Troitsky line. Does anyone know how easy it is to win such endings? I imagine it's a bit of a nightmare (no pun intended). |
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Dec-02-05 | | olav dalkeith: what exchange of queens? Black can get the queen for nothing in next 2 moves. |
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Dec-02-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: A very entertaining game!
Of course I get the pun, but is there anything particular "just in time" in this game? I have the impression White could have gotten more around move 15-20. Would 17.Re8+ work for instance? |
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Dec-02-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Never mind, probably not. |
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Dec-02-05 | | Deus Irae: With the exchange of queens, Black is not winning: with ♔+♘+♘ vs. ♔, it is impossible to force mate. |
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Dec-02-05 | | dakgootje: very nice ending and a pretty strange beginning where i thought that white was stronger untill somewhere move 20 or something, but probably the computer programs dont agree with me....which is why i dislike chess programs ;-) Nah not completely true...However great game =) |
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Dec-02-05
 | | WannaBe: Never seen a Sicilian played this way, the name Freak attack, is definitely fitting. |
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Dec-02-05 | | kevin86: I take <kellmano> to heart here. Yes,black can win at two knights vs a pawn-with the pawn so far back. It is one of the hardest endings to play,however,and it would take at least a master endgames player to win it. The Troitsky line shows the limit to which the pawn can be advanced-to prevent the pawn from being able to queen when the blocking knight is removed. Yes,it is a (k)nightmare to execute. |
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Dec-02-05 | | weisyschwarz: Freak Attack? A real version? Anyhow, a great game. Black did well to dodge all that live ammo, and made a great comeback, playing well positionally. Lesson: if your all-out attack fails, you're toast. |
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Dec-02-05 | | itz2000: maybe i'm just a noob but the stuff from 11 to 16 just doesn't make sense as white! He lost a Key to winning with those stuff.
anyway 16 .. Qg5
I think white should have done in that sitsutation
17 Re8+ (black does Kg7 followed by white exchange) 18. Rxh8 .. Kxh8 in 11-16 he lost a weapon for nothing!
can someone explain me this? |
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Dec-02-05 | | hippatxu: <Deus Irae: With the exchange of queens, Black is not winning: with ♔+♘+♘ vs. ♔, it is impossible to force mate.> That´s true but ♔+♘+♘ vs ♔+♙(like in the game) is a theorical mate. |
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Dec-02-05 | | Eatman: Hmm, I imagine that KQNN vs KQ (no pawns) wins most of the time. Tablebase probably has the answer to that. |
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Dec-02-05 | | avidfan: 55.Kxc4 Qa2+ skewers and wins the queen whereas 55.Kc6 Qb6# The Trotsky line represents the limits up to which a white pawn can not be allowed to cross [a5,b3,c4,d5,e5,f4,g3,h5]
if ever Black's two knights hope to mate.
The White pawn's presence allows this mate but must not be captured else it is stalemate. The White king must be cornered with the aid of a <blockading> knight to drive his rival to the edge of the board (a difficult task). Once the weaker king is imprisoned at a corner square, only then can the blockading knight release the pawn. Is there really such a game in the database? |
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Dec-02-05 | | acirce: <The Trotsky line> I thought that was about permanent revolution. |
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Dec-02-05 | | kevin86: <avidfan> you have the line right,but not the name:It is Troitsky. Trotsky,or course,is the Marxist Revolutionary in Russia in 1917. Unfortunately for him,Joseph Stalin took the rulership upon the death of Lenin. Trotsky was soon discredited,exiled,and finally murdered in Mexico in 1940. |
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Dec-05-05 | | avidfan: It's humorous that I could cause such an uproar by mis(s)pelling another Russian's name by omitting an "i". I found an exception to this Troitsky rule in M Dziuba vs M Sorokin, 2005 |
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May-12-07
 | | sleepyirv: <kevin86> It's actually mate and an odd looking one at that, 55. Kc6 Qb6#. |
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Jul-04-07 | | sanyas: The middlegame was much more difficult than it seemed. For example 18...♕xg4 19.♖e8+ ♔g7 20.♘e6+ fxe6 21.♖e7+ ♔f8 22.♖xb7 ♘c6 23.♕xg4 ♘xg4
24.♖g1 ♘d8 25.♖c7 h5 26.h3 ♘f2 27.♖xg6 b4 28.♘e2 ♘xh3 29.♘d4 ♖g8 30.♘xe6+ ♘xe6 31.♖f6+ ♔e8 32.♖xe6+ ♔d8 33.♖ee7. Or 20...♕g5 21.h4 ♕xh4 22.♖xe6 ♘d7 23.♖e7 ♘c5 24.b4 ♗g2 25.♖c7 ♖e8 26.♕xg2 ♖e1+ 27.♔b2 ♖xf1 28.♕xf1 ♘e6 29.♖a7 ♕g5 30.♘d5. |
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Jun-28-12 | | vinidivici: lolol .... really? Freak attack? |
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Jun-28-12 | | DanielBryant: <vinidivici> That was the same thing I was thinking. |
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