< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Nov-18-04 | | Dionyseus: acirce said: <72.Rh7> There indeed seems to be a crucial difference from the game if Black plays on the same idea, interesting. However, 72..Rd1+ 73.Kc6 Rc1+ 74.Kb7 Rb1+ 75.Ka7 Rd1 seems to draw (?) looking at tablebases for the positions that can occur without the d- and h-pawns Yes, Rh7 is not the winning line it seems. How about 66.Rff7. if h3, then Kxd4 wins. |
|
Nov-18-04 | | jeffnool: ChessBase 9.0 threat animation immediately displays the cruncher: 54.Rxh5, with the threat 55.Rh7+ and mate to follow. Black has no sensible defence, e.g. 54...Kc7 55.Rh7+ Kb8 56.Rb6+ Ka8 57.Rxb3 and White is a rook and pawn up. But Kasparov, who had been working for a long time on a plan a few moves earlier, continued with 54.Rc6 h4 55.Rb1 Rg3+ 56.Kf4 Nd4 57.Rb7+ Kd8 58.Ra6 Kc8 59.Rh7 Kb8 and ultimately the game ended in a very frustrating draw for the world's number one player...this is from the chessbase.com |
|
Nov-19-04 | | arjunkakar: Age catching up fast on kasparov. The basic class is there which is why he reaches the winning postion so deftly but i am sure no one would be more dissapointed than him for not being able to close this one out. Full marks to motylev for holding his nerves and hanging on. |
|
Nov-19-04 | | AdrianP: A crying shame. The way Garry conjured a winning position out of pretty much nothing, without any obvious mistakes from Motty, was very impressive and Garry has obviously not lost any of his calculative abilities - it seems to be more his concentration that is a problem. Still Garry's there or thereabouts, maybe he just needs to shake off a bit of rustiness. These time controls encourage sloppiness in the endgame. |
|
Nov-19-04 | | AdrianP: Some brief notes, here:
http://www.chesscafe.com/misha/rsf2... |
|
Nov-19-04 | | sourcerer: thanx adrianp for the link |
|
Nov-19-04 | | acirce: <Garry Kasparov was terribly disappointed after his 76 move draw versus Motylev. Kasparov played excellently in the opening and middlegame. As usual he spent a lot of time, but Garry had total control throughout the game. After the time control Black sacrificed an exchange for nebulous drawing chances, which somehow broke Kasparov’s concentration, as he erred immediately with 43.Kf4 instead of 43.Kh4, which would have lead to an easier victory. Now things had definitely become more complicated and Motylev did everything within his power to make Kasparov’s life difficult in the endgame. He defended stubbornly and resourcefully and only overnight analysis will decide where White lost half a point. “Kakoj nefart!” exclaimed Garry’s second, GM Yuri Dokhoyan, after the draw was agreed, which could be translated as “What bad luck!” But has a broader meaning in Russian chess slang. After the players had signed the scoresheets, Kasparov paled, stood up, and shook his head in dismay. Missing a win was extremely disheartening for him.> Good to point out that it's not only Kasparov playing. It's easy to look at a game like this like "Kasparov played excellent, Kasparov should have won, but Kasparov blundered it away" while in fact he also had an opponent who in fact defended himself very well and played a good game too. Had he not done so, he would have lost. |
|
Nov-19-04 | | vonKrolock: <54.Rc6> Really somewhat painful to miss a move that threats one of the easiest of all the mating combinations, the Two-Rooks-Sweep, whith highly evident heavy material losses for Black in case that he dont decided to resign here... I'll not hurry to drive conclusions from the GKK's draws in the initial Rounds of the Super-Final... At any case, the image of an Alekhine or Capablanca, elegant weltmanns entering in his forties - life's Autumn - haughty confronting their own colossal reputations, their huge public images greedy to be satisfied, like hungry tiranossaurs, whith Tourney performances, comes strongly than that of the quiet and myopic coffe-trinking grey fox Botwinnik - that defended against everybody in his matches - or that of an imperturbable Emanuel Lasker, sending aromatic clouds of his (Dannemann?!) cigars' smoke, seemingly immune to the advancement of the decades |
|
Nov-19-04 | | acirce: When Mig Greengard is around, Garry only needs to glance at the screen to find the winning continuations or the miraculous drawing lines way before anybody else. He needs to work on that ability OTB I guess. ;-) |
|
Nov-19-04 | | cheski: “Kakoj nefart!” Maybe it could be translated into 'Your own bl**** fault'
as the 'broader meaning'? Who knows. It was disheartening for us too. And I think he missed more than one chance towards the end. There were some inexplicable moves from Black as well. Very saddening to see a good game spoilt. |
|
Nov-19-04 | | azaris: <When Mig Greengard is around, Garry only needs to glance at the screen to find the winning continuations or the miraculous drawing lines way before anybody else. He needs to work on that ability OTB I guess> No, he just has to bring Mig along with him when he plays. |
|
Nov-19-04 | | acirce: <cheski> for "us"? Personally I would have found it disheartening if Motylev's heroic defensive efforts had been all in vain. |
|
Nov-19-04 | | admiralnemo: "Fear is the mind killer" As they say in "Dune". Kasparov seemed to have an unholy fear of black's c-pawn, how else can we explain his blindness to his own chance for checkmate? |
|
Nov-19-04 | | cheski: <acirce> I cannot agree with you that move 53....c3 made Motylev deserve the Brilliancy Prize. Do You? |
|
Nov-19-04 | | acirce: When on earth did I say that? |
|
Nov-19-04 | | RayMaynard: Just a general comment, seems Petrov defense doesn't get much credit versus "flashier" defenses like sicilian. Actually it is a very tough defense to crack!! In WC, Kramnik had a draw and then win with Petrov and then Leko never played 1.e4 again! |
|
Nov-19-04 | | tanginamo: getting old. time to have a match (rematch) with korchnoi & smyslov, & an arbiter for kramnik-anand match. |
|
Nov-20-04 | | ongyj: Really enjoyed this game. No mater you missed the win Gary, u've displayed ure World #1 form. May you be victorious and reign the World Crown again! |
|
Nov-20-04 | | richardg: I would like to have seen the result of this game if Black had played 51.R*a6...R*d5 52. what would Kasparov reply? I suspect he could lose. |
|
Nov-20-04 | | aw1988: Actually, after 51...Rxd5 white has a decisive advantage after 52. Rg1. |
|
Nov-23-04 | | Snow Man: Petroff is a BRICK WALL. Period. |
|
Dec-10-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: I dont think enough credit is being given to black for this great performance. I like Kasparov as much as the next guy, but Motylev played just as well. Thats all their is to it. |
|
Jan-02-05 | | aw1988: <Snow Man> The Petroff is not so much a brick wall as, say, the Berlin. That truly is rock-solid. The "brick wall" of the Petroff DOES have some foundation faults, it is not bulletproof. |
|
Feb-24-05 | | DutchDunce: <“Kakoj nefart!”> Wonder what "Kakoj ne" means? The last syllable isn't too hard to decipher.... |
|
Feb-24-05 | | Knezh: Lol it actually means "what a bad luck!" |
|
 |
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·
Later Kibitzing> |