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Salvador del Rio de Angelis vs Thomas E Rendle
"Salvador Dally" (game of the day Jul-05-2005)
Gibraltar Masters (2005), La Caleta GIB, rd 8, Feb-01
French Defense: Winawer. Retreat Variation Armenian Line (C18)  ·  0-1



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Jul-05-05  notsodeepthought: "L" Salvador would have been my suggestion for the daily pun, given the outcome.
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  WannaBe: Sal. (Dally) Dali... That's a good..

White did not castle and was the Queen's play a mistake? After black castled, white's queen seemed to be hung out to dry...

Jul-05-05  InitiativeCheck: Even exchanging queens didnt let White breathe.
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: White had a number of places where he could have "offered" a draw by perpetual, but disdained them, for example at moves 18 and 33. Nonetheless, Black's play looks incredibly reckless to me. If this is sound, then I'm glad I never tried to make the Winawar part of my repetoire.
Jul-05-05  DanielBryant: 18...Rxf3 is the kind of exchange sacrifice I would completely pass over. Can anybody recommend any good books dealing with the exchange sacrifice?
Jul-05-05  e4Newman: <An Englishman: > When I play against the French I encourage the Winawer by playing 3.Nc3, so my opinion is already biased. But, I've not seen my opponents have much luck with 5...Ba5. I wonder if that's partly what's turning you off.
Jul-05-05  mymt: isnt there a trap for white in the 5. ...Ba5 line?
Jul-05-05  aw1988: Eh, there's many traps, but the move itself isn't bad.
Jul-05-05  EinZweiDrei: There's a brilliant Fischer-Tal draw in this same messy French variation, featured in 'My 60 Memorable Games'.
Jul-05-05  xqdashi: <DanielBryant> You can try "Positional Sacrifices" by Neil McDonald. It covers a lot interesting types of sacrifices including exchange sacs, Q for R+B, etc. all with positional or dynamic considerations rather than immediate tactical follow-ups. It is an excellent book.
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  kevin86: What an ending!! Black keeps up the pressure,despite being the exchange down----then winds up a piece ahead.
Jul-05-05  artemis: <an englishman> what line do you use against 1. e4 e6 then. I preffer the tarrasch, with 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2, allowing me to play c2-c3 at any time and giving a positional edge. I find that particularly in the unitedstates, where so many amateurs are booked up on long tactical variations, that getting into a strategic fight tends to leave my opponents (even up to the 1800 level) dazed and confused. It really is amazing at how positionally inept many class a players are. If you want a tactical brawl, then play the winawer by all means though.
Jul-05-05  meloncio: Salvador "Dally" Dalí (1904-1989), catalonian, surrealistic painter and eccentric man.

There are a lot of anecdotes about his extravagances, but I liked his fine irony when he once said "Picasso says he's communist, nor I". Great!

Jul-06-05  Lawrence: The full quote is "Picasso is Spanish and so am I, Picasso is a painter and so am I, Picasso is a genius and so am I, Picasso is a Communist and neither am I."
Jul-06-05  meloncio: <Lawrence> Well, there's a slightly different hue. Mine sounds more sarcastic and yours (the true one) is lighter, don't you think?

Do you know a story about the bad relationship between Dalí and his severe father? There is an obscene anecdote, perhaps apocryphal, but funny anyway.

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  An Englishman: Dear Artemis: I never had to play against the French in my playing career--to paraphrase Gilbert & Sullivan, "I was an Englishman." I did, however, *give up* the French because in the early 70's, there weren't too many lines that gave Black acceptable winning chances. 3...c5 was and is quite sound, but to my way of thinking it was also insufficiently aggressive.
Jul-07-05  Lawrence: Hi <meloncio>, about the bad relationship yes, I knew, but don't know the anecdote.
Jul-08-05  meloncio: <Lawrence> Many people say it never happened, but the legend still remains. Anyway I never heard such a cruel obscenity:

They were annoyed, maybe a little more than usual. Then Salvador, very young then, wanting to hurt his father, and perhaps to finish his relationship forever, sent him a postal packet containing a little plastic bag with some semen inside, and a note: "Papá, ahora ya no te debo nada" (Daddy, I'm not in debt with you anymore).

Please, translate the note if not correct. Really I don't know how to express in english the real meaning of this surrealistic insult. By the way, the legend don't say what the father then did.

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  patzer2: White seems to have missed a chance to win by not playing 21. f4!

Playing it out 21. f4! with Fritz 8 @ 14 depth gives:

21. f4! Qc5 22. Qf7 Rh8 23. Kf1 Rf8 24. Qh7 Qc7 25. Kg2 Bb5 26. Qxc7+ Kxc7 27. Bxb5 Nxb5 28. a4 Nbd4 29. Ra3 Ne2 30. Re1 Nfd4 31. Ra2 Kd7 32. Kf1 Nxf4 33. Re3 Nc6 34. Rxc3 Ng6 35. Rb2 Rf7 36. h3 Rh7 37. Kg2 Rg7 38. Kh2 Rf7 39. Rb1 Ncxe5 40. a5 bxa5 41. Rb7+ Ke8 42. Rxf7 Kxf7 43. Bxe5 Nxe5 44. Rc7+ Kf6 45. Rxa7 Nf3+ 46. Kg3 Nd4 47. Rd7 Nb5 48. Rb7 Nd6 49. a7 Nxb7 50. a8=Q .

White missed a last chance to draw with 33. Kg3! Rg4+ 34. Kf3 Rf4+ 35. Kg3 +,giving White a draw by threefold repetition.

After the mistake 33. Ke2?, Black initiates an unusual pursuit combination with two minor pieces and a pawn (while the exchange down) to harrass the White King and win a decisive piece. The pursuit combination beginning with 33...Bb5+! is interesting, instructive and worthy of study.

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  patzer2: The following Duke University site contains a biographical sketch of Salvador Dali -- .
May-30-06  Trendy: A few notes to this game (I was Black). ..Rxf3 was a new idea and isn't in books. The play is imprecise as you would expect in a complex unknown position. I feel that quoting 20 move deep lines by Fritz rather misses the point, which is that Black has good comp. This sac was repeated in Sutovsky-Berry, where the strong GM with white was lucky to escape with a draw vs a player 350 points lower rated!
Sep-03-08  Dr. J: White's 35 Rxe5 looks to me like a blunder, far inferior to 35 h5, keeping the rooks connected, and saving at least one tempo for the advance of the h-pawn. An attempt by Black to continue as in the game would fail: 35 h5 Rd2+ 36 Kc1 Ba4 37 h6 Rxc2+ 38 Kb1 Rb2+ 39 Ka1 Bb3 40 a7 Ra2+ 41 Kb1 c2+?? 42 Kc1 wins. ( 41 ... Rb2+draws by perpetual.) Are there improvements?

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