| Mar-02-05 | | fgh: Of course, Leko is going to win this tournament. Hahahaha! |
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| Mar-02-05 | | hintza: Leko's performance at Linares 2005 has been something of a mystery to me. He made it clear that it was a top priority of his to win Linares, the last of the "Grand Slam" that is made up of Dortmund, Corus and Linares. He is known for being among the best in terms of physical strength, so exhaustion seems a little far-fetched as a possible reason for games such as this. |
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| Mar-02-05 | | Granite: Games like this should reduce the prize money these players recieve by 50%. How sad is a 13 move draw? Pathetic. |
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| Mar-02-05 | | me to play: hintza, I wouldn't get too worried about Leko just yet, after all he is only 1 point behind with half the tournament yet to be played. btw, great quote in your profile...anyone that quotes from Shakespeare is fine by me. :] |
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| Mar-02-05 | | hintza: <me to play> Thanks for the encouraging words, I hope you're right about Leko. Don't worry, I haven't written him off quite yet. About the quote: for some reason it just makes a lot of sense to me, I can't really explain why I was compelled to put it on the profile. One day I will find a different quote to put there! Or maybe it will remain as it is forever! I will not change it until I find something better anyway. From your profile I see we are both admirers of Leko (his chess, that is, not his fashion sense!), so I hope for both of us that he will go on a Corus-type run and finish at the top! :-) |
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| Mar-02-05 | | shortsight: Leko must have ben preparing to face kasparov the following game, that's why he needs all the time available. oh, unintentionally, i'm finding excuses for Leko! |
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| Mar-02-05 | | WillC21: <shortsight> Actually, while it might sound like we are making excuses for Leko, I am not sure it is so far from the truth. He knows Kasparov is next and probably doesnt wanna wear himself down, instead put a half a point in the bank and be very well rested. It's sad, but most likely the truth. |
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| Mar-02-05 | | iron maiden: Let's not forget, of course, that Kasparov did pretty much the same thing today. |
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| Mar-02-05 | | PinkPanther: Leko is the best in terms of physical strength? I'd damn near bet my soul he couldn't benchpress 150 pounds. |
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| Mar-03-05 | | WillC21: <PinkPanther> In terms of physical strength, he meant very strong mental endurance without the effect of overall body/mind fatigue. He wasn't talking about brute force muscular strength or size. |
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| Mar-03-05 | | Notes: Well. Lékó is a quite good soccer player, and he can run marathon distance as well. But this time I think he has chosen the wrong tactics.
The bes way to beat Kasparov, is to beat Vallejo. If he takes the time and energy to beat Vallejo and makes a half point against Kaspi, then he's having 1.5 pts. Whit this draw he's gonna make only 1 point over all. |
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| Mar-03-05 | | acirce: This was a bit surprising actually -- given Vallejo's form here you would have thought Leko would try harder even as Black. There won't be many more good chances. Maybe he really is exhausted. |
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| Mar-07-05 | | Whitehat1963: This game is unmentionably pathetic. I like <Granite>'s idea above. Reduce their prize money for draws under 20 moves. Make them demonstrate why it is a draw. Something. Anything but this. How would you feel if you paid to watch this ridiculous display of passivity? |
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| Mar-07-05 | | RisingChamp: Well are you paying to watch this "ridiculous display of passivity"?I doubt it,and nobody has asked you to pay in any case.That suggestion has no merit,as one can merely extend the game,or constantly repeat moves etc.If you want to tinker with the format and make 3 1 0 format fine,but the players have a right to play any way they like within the rules of the game.It is not some Coliseum where they are duelling for your benefit and you can sit back and insult them for a lack of bravery while eating popcorn and watching. |
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| Mar-07-05 | | acirce: You almost never hear this kind of insulting nonsense in real life from people who play this kind of OTB tournaments themselves. In the overwhelming majority of cases it's by more or less anonymous internet kibitzers who like to grab a beer, turn on the computer, watch a game for free and expect the players to entertain you like it's their duty or something. I wonder why!? First of all, we who actually play tournaments and know a little what it is about, have a much bigger understanding of all the different practical reasons to take a "premature" draw. Second, if you spend some time along with all kinds of chessplayers, for example by playing in a club and travelling together with other club members on tournaments and matches, you learn to respect diversity. You may have a daring, enterprising style, but you won't insult your clubmate if he is "boring" and plays it safe. If he agrees to a 15 move draw you may laugh with him and say "Heh, typical, right!?", but you certainly won't insult him or call his game "unmentionably pathetic" or a "ridiculous display of passivity". |
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| Mar-07-05 | | flamboyant: Im sure if I was at linares I could draw leko lol! maybe im exagerating a bit but it seem that to draw him all you have to do is keep equality after 15 moves and he'll offer draw! |
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| Mar-07-05 | | sneaky pete: <flamboyant> You're mistaken. You couldn't draw Leko, be he sure could and would draw you! |
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| Mar-09-05 | | Dionyseus: <acirce> <flamboyant> 15 moves? This game didn't even last 15 moves. This game, like all of Leko's games in this Linares, is pathetic. <iron maiden> At least Kasparov's game against Topalov lasted 21 moves, also note that Topalov is a much higher caliber player than Vallejo. |
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| Mar-10-05 | | RisingChamp: Oh yes!someone rated 1400 on an internet chess server,is ideally placed to comment on a world championship candidates play as being pathetic.Its quite clear that you dont understand very much about chess at their level,and it doesnt make you qualified to complain abt the outcome simply based on the number of moves.Have you somehow noticed that the only ones here who complain abt quick draws are 1300 players who dont play big OTB tournaments and have neither experienced high tension play,nor understand high level chess. |
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 | | Open Defence: <RisingChamp> if they can't stand the heat they should get out of the kitchen, fortunatly the likes of a Fischer or Kasparov come along to keep the world wide interest in chess going. However, for over 50 years people have been saying that GM draws will kill the game, it has not yet happened, but no doubt, it prevents chess from capturing the imagaination of the masses ♕ OD ♕ |
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| Mar-10-05 | | RisingChamp: Not really-the last bit at least,people who are interested in chess like the game regardless of the way it is played at the highest levels,and those who are not interested find it boring no matter how well or inventively it is played,this at least is my experience. |
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| Mar-10-05 | | Where is my mind: Chess has recently found a wider audience on the internet .It's probably unrealistic for them all to be conoisseurs.The choice now is , does Chess pander to the masses
and become more obvious or does
it miss an opportunity to become more mainsteam?
I agree with< open defence >Kasparov has done a great deal to promote Chess in his lifetime.People who rarely play the game know of him and his achievements.It's a shame some of his peers seem disrespectful. It will be interesting to see what type of Chessplayers the internet generation produces.Maybe they will all be more attacking entertaining players in the style of Kasparov and Topalov.Then there would be no need for 3-1-0 scoring which is a lame idea. This year Linnares adjusted the way players were payed,the more wins the more money.
Minnor adjustments like this will improve Chess.Also sites like this will educate 1400 players to have a greater understanding and appreciation of Chess. |
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| Apr-19-18 | | Ediciones3jaques: Parecerá pasivo el juego pero esta partida aparece en el Manual de Ataque 1 de Jacob Aagaard como una linea secundaria para igualar... |
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