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Jul-29-07 | | Mameluk: This endgame should be somewhere analyzed to death, it´s 21st century. |
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Jul-29-07 | | ruyv: acirce: Carlsen got tired of doing nothing. Probably now somebody will tell us that he "blundered". hate to say but maybe...
with no computer analysis I think that g5 and b5 (to answer b4 to Nc3) would have saved a pawn. |
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Jul-29-07 | | ghristo: Hmm it looks kike it isn't a draw. White have chances for win after a4 |
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Jul-29-07 | | Mameluk: Still draw, Carlsen loses ´just´ that f7 pawn. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Atking: 34.a4 b6 35.Rxa7 Rb2 36.Rb7 Rxb2 37.a5 |
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Jul-29-07 | | Ulhumbrus: 35 Rxf7 Rb2! 36 Rxa7 Rxb3 appears to draw. |
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Jul-29-07 | | MorphysMojo: Can Grischuk win with the extra pawn (after he makes the time control)? How good is his endgame tchnique compared to Carlsens, or could any GM draw this? |
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Jul-29-07 | | acirce: Must be a draw, and Carlsen has played this quickly and seemingly confidently. Of course, he showed against Aronian that he can still mess up. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Ulhumbrus: 35 Rxa7 Rb2 36 Rb7 Rxb3 37 a5 b5 38 a6 Ra2 39 a7 b3 may draw. |
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Jul-29-07 | | MadBishop: I reckon it's a draw. Plus time is also a factor! |
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Jul-29-07 | | Gegga: Time is absolutely no factor... |
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Jul-29-07 | | acirce: Ok, but Grischuk didn't have to allow 3+2 on the same wing, did he? This is of course elementary. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Strongest Force: If Carlsen wants a draw his king must be more active than Grischuk's. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Xaurus: <acirce: Must be a draw, and Carlsen has played this quickly and seemingly confidently. Of course, he showed against Aronian that he can still mess up.>Wasn't that pretty much the other way around? As I recall, Magnus displayed some masterful endgame techniques in the match vs Aronian. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Eyal: <zanshin: Evals now favoring white (19-ply)> But this is an example where such +1 evals are completely meaningless, since even with a pawn up, such a position with 3 vs. 2 pawns on the same wing is drawn. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Atking: <If Carlsen wants a draw his king must be more active than Grischuk's.> it must be the <Strongest Force:> :( |
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Jul-29-07 | | acirce: <Xaurus> Aronian vs Carlsen, 2006 saw Magnus blunder in a rook endgame that should be basic on 2700 level. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Strongest Force: Black has good drawing possibilities. |
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Jul-29-07 | | zanshin: <Eyal: <zanshin: Evals now favoring white (19-ply)> But this is an example where such +1 evals are completely meaningless> I agree. I think this is a draw. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Ulhumbrus: The most that Grischuk can do now is to set Carlsen an examination on endgame technique. |
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Jul-29-07 | | Jesspatrick: One drawing plan is to liquidate both black pawns while not allowing white's extra pawn to reach the 6th rank. This will result in a book draw based on Philidor's analysis. |
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Jul-29-07
 | | Sneaky: I was about to ask "what's the tablebase value?" but now I see, this is too complex for tablebase. Instinct tell us that it should be a relatively easy draw, but if White is good he can press Black to make a few "only moves" before he reaches salvation. |
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Jul-29-07
 | | Open Defence: if the Rooks were off this is a win for White... but forcing a trade looks remote |
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Jul-29-07 | | sofouuk: Motylev has 2 minutes to play 11 moves against Polgar - looks precarious |
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Jul-29-07
 | | Open Defence:  click for larger viewthis is drawn as well.... |
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