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| Aug-31-07 | | TopaLove: <Rawprawn> You missed the white bishop on d5 attacking g8 square. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | Nightranger: < rleeasher: it doesn't seem like white is so bad after 35. Qxc3, Bxe4+
36. Qf2, Bxf2+
37. Kf2
2 rooks and a bishop vs a queen? >
Well, after:
35.Qxc2 Bxe4+
36.Qf2 < Qg3+ >
37.Kh1 Qxf2
38.Bxe4 fxe4
39.Rxe4 Qf3+ and Qxe4 I think the material pendulum swings the other way, and mate will follow soon. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | YouRang: <Nightranger> Right. OR, <37...Bxf2>, threatening ...Qh3#, which will win a rook after 38. Rb3 Qh4+ 39. Kg2 Bxe1  . |
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| Aug-31-07 | | kevin86: I missed this one mainly due to the amazing power the black bishop has in "pinning" the white queen to the d-file on penalty of ...Bd4+. Of course this effect is not possible until black's queen forces the king to g1. A brilliant finish by Gorelov. (a name of a possible religion related to global warming,lol) |
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Aug-31-07
 | | ajk68: It's amazing how white's position starts to crumble around moving 18. It then takes 17 more moves to finish it. I find this game interesting for how the positional advantage translates into the tactical combination to end it. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | lau7aro: Can somebody tell me what happens if white refuses the sacrifice? In 33..Kg1. Or the adversary couldnt resist a rook overlooking the consequent line? |
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| Aug-31-07 | | beenthere240: <lau7aro) 33. Kg1. 34 Qg3 followed by Rh2 sayonara. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | pggarner: <MostlyAverageJoe: <Achilles87: I got this! Altho I'd prefer 34...Bxd4+ > This loses the game after Qxd4.>> After 35.Qxd4, Black has 35...Qg3+ followed by 36...Rc2 and White can't interpose. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | YouRang: <pggarner: <MostlyAverageJoe: <Achilles87: I got this! Altho I'd prefer 34...Bxd4+ > This loses the game after Qxd4.>
After 35.Qxd4, Black has 35...Qg3+ followed by 36...Rc2 and White can't interpose.> Aha, but after 35. Qxd4 Qg3+ 36. Kf1 Rc2, white has 37. Qa7+! If 37...Kg6 38. Qf7#, so black must play 37...Kh8, then 38. Qb8+ Kh7 39. Qg8+, and after the queens exchange, white is up a rook  . |
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Aug-31-07
 | | fm avari viraf: Oliver Sick's position looks weak & sick, therefore, Gorelov could venture with the conspicuous move 32...Rxh3+ 33.gxh3 Qxh3+ 34.Kg1 & Rc2 But what if White declines the Rook & plays 33.Kg1 then I think, 33...Qg3 threatening 34...Qh2+ & White will soon have to surrender. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | YouRang: <lau7aro: Can somebody tell me what happens if white refuses the sacrifice? In 33..Kg1. Or the adversary couldnt resist a rook overlooking the consequent line?> Good question. I think 33. Kg1 is met by 33...Qg3, and now the question is: what's white's best defense? One try might be <34. Re2>: 34...Qh2+ 35. Kf1 Rd3! and the threat against the queen and 36...Qh1+ 39. Kf2 Bxd4+ 38. Re3 Rc2# wins. In any event, white cannot withstand the combined threats from the queen, rooks, bishop, and even the pawns all bearing down on the white king. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | Monkey King: < I incorrectly just assumed 34. ... Rc3 was the solution but it seems that after 35. Rb3! black can resign.> Actually its a draw by perpetual, although 34. Rc2 is obviosly better. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | willyfly: <Skylark> How can you say I'm incorrect while you are in agreement with what I said? Must be a typo :-) |
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| Aug-31-07 | | Magic Castle: Looks like 34....Rc4 will deliver the kill faster than the text. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | birdplaya: First friday puzzle I've solved in a long time(Probably because I actually got to sit down and look at it for once). Must be my lucky day. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <Magic Castle: Looks like 34....Rc4 will deliver the kill faster than the text.> Indeed, the black will get killed after 34....Rc4 35.Bxc4. However, the puzzle's objective was for the black to win :-) |
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| Aug-31-07 | | Billosky: I got this one quite easily, and in just a few seconds, but frankly, I'm not sure it's really worthy of a Friday. Seems more like a Wednesday puzzle to me. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | belgradegambit: Agree very easy for a friday. I'm sure everyone spotted 32...Rxh3+, even in a regular game I would have looked at this. Then all you need is to see the overburdened queen. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | Marmot PFL: If everyone says it's easy for a Friday, I won't argue. Lets just say there were harder Fri and Sat puzzles that I found easier. This one I did not, but those are the ones you learn something from. here I got mentally locked into making 34...Rc3 work for a win, when it only draws. OTB I probably would have noticed this and found Rc2 AFTER playing the first two moves, but luck like that is not reliable. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | psmith: <pggarner>
34... Bxd4+?? 35. Qxd4 Qg3+ 36. Kf1 Rc2 37. Qa7+ (yes, White gets to move) Kh8 38. Qb8+ Kh7 39. Qg8+ and wins. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | psmith: <ppgarner>: 34...Bxd4+?? 35. Qxd4 Qg3+ 36. Kf1 Rc2 37. Qa7+ Kh8 38. Qb8+ Kh7 39. Qg8+ wins for White. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | Crowaholic: It's funny - this is considered a very easy Friday but while virtually everyone saw the rook sac followed by queen check on h3, many did not see 34. ..Rc2!. To be honest, my first idea was 32. ..Bxd4 threatening the rook sac to mate and opening the g file for the rook in case of 33. Qxd4. But then I did notice that the white bishop covers g8, making the g file useless for me. I came to the conclusion that if you cannot push the rook along the g file, then it would have to be the c file, so 34. ..Rc2 and everything else fell in place. The second line which makes this puzzle not so easy is 33. Kg1. ..Qg3 follows naturally and I saw that immediately. But 34. Re2 Qh2+ 35. Kf1 (35. Kf2?? Rf3+ 36. Ke1 Qg1+ 37. Kd2 Rd3#) left me puzzled. The correct - and crushing - follow-up is 35. ..Rd3! according to computer analysis (this seems to be mate in 10 at least). To summarize, it took more than seeing 32. ..Rxh3+ 33. gxh3 Qxh3+ 34. Kg1 to solve this puzzle. Although I got the text line precisely, I did not truly solve the puzzle myself for failing to see the above-mentioned continuation if the rook sac is declined. |
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| Aug-31-07 | | cyruslaihy: i thought Bxd4+ opening the g file after the rook sac and queen check yield the axe |
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| Sep-01-07 | | patzer2: Black solves yesterday's puzzle using a demolition combination starting with 32. Rxh3!!, which is followed by the surprise decoy and deflection move 34...Rc2! After the forced 35. Re2 Rxe2 36. Qxe2 Bxd4+ , the White Queen will fall and Black's extra material will be decisive. |
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| May-13-19 | | siggemannen: Alright i bite... "Sick Sac"? |
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sac: 32...Rxh3+