Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Jose Raul Capablanca / Hans Kmoch vs Max Euwe / Andre Lilienthal
Consultation game (1935), Hilversum NED, Jan-16
Reti Opening: Anglo-Slav. Bogoljubow Variation III (A12)  ·  1/2-1/2



explore this opening
find similar games more games of Capablanca / Kmoch
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can make these tips go away by registering a free account then visiting your preferences page. Simply check the option "Don't show random tips on game pages." and click the Update Profile button at the bottom.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chessdreamer: Correction: It should read
White: Jose Raul Capablanca/Hans Kmoch;
Black: Max Euwe/Andre Lilienthal :-)
Jun-27-08  wittmann: why not 23. h4, winning a piece?
Jun-27-08  pawn to QB4: 23...Bxd3 24.Qxd3 Nh7?
May-13-17  Paarhufer: This game was played in a radio broadcast. Black's position became passive around move 20 and suspicious soon thereafter.

White's last move, 34.♖f4, was a mistake. A winning plan could be ♖1f2, ♔h2, g4, g5. With a rook on the third rank, White has sometimes ♗c3 protecting b4.

The final position is more dynamic, but still better for White.

May-13-17  JimNorCal: Thanks <pawn to QB4>, I had the same question.
May-30-17  zanzibar: < This game was played in a radio broadcast. >

Source please.

Aside- what was the original names used to prompt <chessdreamer>'s comment?

And was it changed without specifying a reference?

May-30-17  zanzibar: Should this game really be recorded as a draw?

I think "*" is more appropriate, as it's likely the game was just discontinued after the 34th move (never to be resumed?).

May-31-17  sneaky pete: <Zanzibar> You're right, the game was adjourned (and never continued) after 34 moves due to lack of time. There is a small report in the January 1935 issue of Tijdschrift van de Nederlandse Schaakbond.

It was a radio (consultattion) game played in the evening of January 16. Both sides had 45 minutes for the first 20 moves, and even less time for the rest of the game (the radio station closed at midnight).

The game was scheduled to be between Capablanca and Euwe only. The consulting partners were added, maybe out of politeness, since they were available. Probably their names were missing in the original version here.

May-31-17  sneaky pete: The February issue of Tijdschrift reprints annotations by Euwe, first published (no exact date given) in the Dutch newspaper Het Volk. Euwe writes that, after a joint post mortem, a draw was agreed by all four players.

click for larger view

The main lines start with 35.d5 e5 36.d6 exf4 37.dxe7 Qe3+

click for larger view

which Euwe considers dubious for white, and 35.Bc1 Qxb4 36.Be3 e5 37.dxe5 Qb3

click for larger view

May-31-17  zanzibar: Thanks <sneaky> for all that - it's nice having a definitive ref for the result (though a page number would be helpful).

I found a nice writeup in <De Telegraaf - 1935.01.17 p7>:

This was the only contemporaneous newspaper account with the movelist, although this link had a few paragraphs on the event:

The <De Telegraaf> article gives the conclusion as <afgebroken>:

afgebroken = adjourned

(this latter link being a very handy page btw)

* * * * *

Is the Euwe article available online? If not, any possibility of getting a scan?

May-31-17  zanzibar: Here's Euwe talking about the game in an interview:

<B: Do you notice much evolution in technique?

E: In the openings, enormous progress has been made. For example, Timman beat Ribli recently with a theoretical innovation on the 26th move... The masters of other days were often just as creative, in fact their technique in the endgame was sometimes sublime but a man like Capablanca could get by without a deep knowledge of the openings. I once played a consultation game with Lilienthal against Capablanca and Kmoch. Kmoch revealed to me afterwards that he had had to break off at one stage to give Capablanca a long talk on the current situation in their opening! In his best days, however, Capablanca could outplay opponents in the opening too.> (thanks to batgirl)

NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collection[what is this?]
October 21, 2019 (Cycle 3, Game 194 / 859)
from Game of the Day & Puzzle of the Day Collections by Phony Benoni

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us

Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC