Hikaru Nakamura vs Magnus Carlsen (2008)

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Hikaru Nakamura vs Magnus Carlsen
Trophee CCAS (2008) (rapid), Cap d'Agde FRA, rd 3, Oct-27
English Opening: Symmetrical Variation. Hedgehog Defense (A30) · 1/2-1/2

White to move.

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Nov-01-08		notyetagm: 55 ... ? click for larger view http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/pos...: <... Nakamura-Carlsen (Nakamura had very good winning chances almost start to finish, <<<but was fortunate at the end that Carlsen repeated instead of playing the probably winning 55/57...Rf5>>>), > (VAR) 55 ... ♖f3-f5! Δ 56 ... ♖f5-g5 click for larger view Does anyone know for sure whether the maneuvre ... ♖f3-f5! was winning for Black on moves 55 or 57, as Monokroussos suggested might be true? <RYBKA 3 EVAL>? Thanks

Nov-01-08		nimh: 1: Hikaru Nakamura - Magnus Carlsen, Cap d'Agde Cap Agde FRA 2008 click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit: (-2.28 !) Depth: 15 00:00:14 609kN, tb=96 55...Rf5 (-2.48 !) Depth: 15 00:00:18 753kN, tb=123 55...Rf5 56.b4 Rg5[] 57.Rxg3 Rxg3 58.b5 Rg5 59.Ka4 Rg4+[] 60.Ka3 Nc5 61.a6 Ra4+ 62.Kb2[] Ke6 63.Kc3 (-2.18) Depth: 15 00:00:20 792kN, tb=177 55...Rf5 (-2.38 !) Depth: 16 00:00:25 1019kN, tb=228 55...Rf5 (-2.58 !) Depth: 16 00:00:33 1343kN, tb=301 55...Rf5 (-2.98 !) Depth: 16 00:00:41 1765kN, tb=378 55...Rf5 56.b4 Rg5[] 57.Rxg3 Rxg3 58.b5 Rg5[] 59.Ka4 Rg4+[] 60.Ka3 Nc5[] 61.a6 Ra4+[] 62.Kb2[] Ke6[] 63.Kc3 Ne4+[] 64.Kb3 Ra1[] 65.Nb6 Nd6[] 66.Kb2 Ra5[] 67.Kc3 Ra3+[] 68.Kb4 Ra1[] 69.Na4 Rb1+[] 70.Kc5 Nxb5[] (-3.52) Depth: 16 00:01:05 2789kN, tb=672 55...Rf5 56.b4 Rg5[] 57.Rxg3 Rxg3 58.b5 Rg5[] 59.Ka4 Rg4+[] 60.Ka3 Nc5[] 61.a6 Ra4+[] 62.Kb2[] Ke6[] 63.Kc3 Ne4+[] 64.Kb3 Ra1[] 65.Nb6 Nd6[] 66.Kb2 Ra5[] 67.Kc3 Ra3+[] 68.Kb4 Ra1[] 69.Na4 Rb1+[] 70.Kc5 Nxb5[] (-3.52) Depth: 17 00:01:18 3603kN, tb=768 (Varend, 01.11.2008) 1: Hikaru Nakamura - Magnus Carlsen, Cap d'Agde Cap Agde FRA 2008 click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit: = (0.10) Depth: 15 00:00:02 114kN, tb=6 56...Nd3+ = (0.10) Depth: 16 00:00:04 192kN, tb=14 56...Nd3+ = (0.10) Depth: 17 00:00:09 429kN, tb=30 56...Nd3+ = (0.10) Depth: 18 00:00:15 699kN, tb=58 56...Nd3+ = (0.10) Depth: 19 00:00:30 1343kN, tb=135 56...Nd3+ = (0.10) Depth: 20 00:00:55 2463kN, tb=279 (Varend, 01.11.2008) 1: Hikaru Nakamura - Magnus Carlsen, Cap d'Agde Cap Agde FRA 2008 click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit: 57...Rf5 58.b4[] Rg5[] 59.Rxg3 Rxg3 (-3.42) Depth: 15 00:00:00 4kN 57...Rf5 58.b4[] Rg5[] 59.Rxg3 Rxg3 (-3.42) Depth: 16 00:00:00 8kN 57...Rf5 58.b4[] Rg5[] 59.Rxg3 Rxg3 (-3.42) Depth: 17 00:00:00 13kN 57...Rf5 58.b4[] Rg5[] 59.Rxg3 Rxg3 60.Ka4 Rg4 (-3.42) Depth: 18 00:00:13 958kN, tb=39 57...Rf5 58.b4 Rg5[] 59.Rxg3 Rxg3 60.b5 Ne5+[] 61.Kb4 Rg4+[] 62.Kb3 Ke6[] 63.a6 Rg8[] 64.Nb6 Nd7[] 65.Na4 Kd6[] 66.Kb4 Rg4+[] 67.Ka3 Kc7[] 68.Kb3 Kb8[] 69.Ka3 Ka7 70.Kb3 Rd4 71.Nb2 Ne5 72.Na4 Nd3 (-3.60) Depth: 19 00:01:54 6172kN, tb=1858 57...Rf5 58.b4 Rg5[] 59.Rxg3 Rxg3 60.b5 Ne5+[] 61.Kb4 Rg4+[] 62.Kb3[] Ke6[] 63.a6 Rg8[] 64.Nb6 Nd7[] 65.Na4 Kd6[] 66.Kb4 Rg4+[] 67.Ka3 Kc7[] 68.Kb3 Kb8[] 69.Ka3 Ka7 70.Kb3 Rd4 71.Nb2 Ne5 72.Na4 Nd3 (-3.60) Depth: 20 00:03:06 10448kN, tb=3011 (Varend, 01.11.2008) So Magnus indeed missed a win several times.

Nov-01-08		notyetagm: <nimh: So Magnus indeed missed a win several times.> Thanks so much for the quick turnaround on the <RYBKA EVALS>. So Monokroussos was correct, that Carlsen playing Black missed the winning maneuvre ... ♖f3-f5! not once but twice(!), on both moves 55 and 57!

Nov-01-08		awfulhangover: On ICC Naka yesterday said he outplayed Magnus in this game. He also said he would beat Magnus even when Magnus plays at his best. Zzzzzz

Nov-01-08		notyetagm: <awfulhangover: On ICC Naka yesterday said he outplayed Magnus in this game. He also said he would beat Magnus even when Magnus plays at his best. Zzzzzz> Better not point out 55/57 ... ♖f3-f5! to Nakamura then. :-)

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