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| Aug-15-09 | | capablancakarpov: According to the Laws of chess:
9.3
The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, if: a) He writes his move on his scoresheet and declares to the arbiter his intention to make this move, which shall result in the last 50 moves having been made by each player without the movement of any pawn and without any capture So Ivanchuk wrote that move on his scoresheet but didn´t made the move over the board. |
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| Aug-15-09 | | Jason Frost: Tough luck by Kamsky, forced to draw in what is finally an easily won position. |
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| Aug-16-09 | | zanshin: It looks like Kamsky missed a win on move 61:
click for larger view [-5.51] d=19 61...Bxg3 (0:04.33) 19247kN
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[-5.00] d=14 61...Bxg3 62.fxg3 Qa2 63.Re8 Qxe2 64.Rg8 Kh6 65.Rf8 Qxe3 66.Kg2 (0:00.01) 10kN |
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| Aug-16-09 | | kurtrichards: Kamsky was so spent in this game against Ivanchuk in round 6 and probably the reason why he lost in round 7 against Alekseev. Kamsky seems to have lost his luck...sigh. |
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| Aug-17-09 | | denver8: Oh Gata! 44...Bg3! 45 fg Qf1 46 Rg2 Rf2 47 Rf2 Qf2 48 Kh1 Qg3 0-1 |
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Nov-01-09
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Here is an interesting line (in which White is permitted to promote his d-pawn on the 122nd move just before Black forces mate) illustrating how (but-for the 50-move rule) the final position could quickly have been won by Black after 114. Rd4+: 114. ... Bxd4 115. exd4 Qg6+ 116. Bg2 Ke1 117. d5 Qf6 118. f3 Qh4 119. d6 Qf2+ 120. Kh2 Qe3 121. d7 Kf2 122. <d8=Q> Qf4+ 123. Kh1 Qh6+ 124. Qh4+ Qxh4+ 125. Bh3 Qxh3#. |
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| Mar-07-10 | | technical draw: I wonder if Kamsky noticed that Ivanchuk was counting the moves on his scorecard over and over again? He probably did but there was really nothing he could do as long as Chucky didn't move any of his pawns. |
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| May-18-11 | | engineerX: Asked about his memorable games, Ivanvhuk mentioned this one (in an interview found here http://www.chessintranslation.com/2...):
"You remember games where, despite being positionally lost, you nevertheless managed to escape with a draw. One such example is the game against Gata Kamsky at the tournament in Armenia in 2009. I was saved from a loss by the 50-move rule, which states that if not a single piece has been taken over the course of those moves then the game is declared a draw. Kamsky almost gained the chance to take my piece, but only on the 51st move. So I put up as much resistance as I could: I calculated whether he’d be able to carry out the capture, and how long I could avoid it. (smiles)" |
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| Sep-11-11 | | sfm: <capablancakarpov:
So Ivanchuk wrote that move on his scoresheet but didn´t made the move over the board.>
Correct, the same is the case for three-fold repetition. You can never make a move, then claim a draw.Writing 114.Rd4, then claiming the draw. LOL! What a prankster! |
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| Sep-11-11 | | SimonWebbsTiger: according to <Geurt Gijssen> <Bulletins are sometimes misleading. I checked the game
Ivanchuk – Kamsky and also saw the move 114.Rd4+. I called the chief
arbiter of the tournament and asked him whether the move 114.Rd4+ was
played. He assured me that the move was not played, but that Ivanchuk
indicated that he had the intention of playing this move. I usually indicate
in the bulletin and in the PGN file that there was a draw claim.> |
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| Sep-11-11 | | sfm: I wrote:
<Writing 114.Rd4, then claiming the draw. LOL! What a prankster!>but I realized that there was actually no better move than that - White can't avoid Black either making a (decisive) capture or mating next move. Talk about luck! Saved by the bell, by one single move on the 50-moves rule!! Unique in chess history? |
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Dec-26-11
 | | Eggman: "Saved By The Bell" is a most appropriate title for Boxing Day, n'est pas? |
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| Dec-26-11 | | Billy Vaughan: Haha bien sûr ! I think this pun was mine, but it doesn't appear anymore on my submission list and I don't remember clearly. Anyways I'm a fan of endgame defenses and this one is clever especially at the bell :) |
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| Dec-26-11 | | SatelliteDan: I think Chuck is like some kind of Guiness, savant at times. |
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| Dec-26-11 | | Magic Castle: <zanshin: It looks like Kamsky missed a win on move 61> Yeah but I see a different continuation after 61..Bg3. 62. fg3. Here is my continuation: 62..Qe1+ 63. Bf1.. Qg3 64. Kh1..Qf2
threatening the bishop and the pawn push to g3 whereupon mate or easy win could not be avoided after a few moves. |
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| Dec-26-11 | | 7Heaven: The dub title means because of time control? |
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| Dec-26-11 | | Magic Castle: <7Heaven: The dub title means because of time control?> No. Its the 50 moves rule which means, if no piece was captured after 50 moves, the game is a draw. |
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| Dec-26-11 | | rogl: To make things clear. The 50 moves rule says that a player can claim a draw if no piece has been captured or no pawn has been moved in 50 moves. |
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Dec-26-11
 | | Richard Taylor: "Saved by the bell" comes from boxing where if the referee is counting a boxer who is down out, if the bell (for the end of the round) goes he has another chance) and might even win if he "revives or whatever. So now it means "saved a the last minute" or something such as that. Clearly Ivanchuk's whole strategy was to survive for 50 moves after the last capture and with no pawn moves. |
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| Dec-26-11 | | Ghu: I dont understand why black wont play 11...Nc2
12. Qc5 Nxa1
13. Bxc7 Nd7
14. Bb5 Qc8 and castles next move.
This doesnt seem like white has what he needs for the rook. |
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| Dec-26-11 | | erniecohen: Black missed a win with 105...♕h4 106. ♗d1+ ♔c1 107. ♖d3 ♕h1+ 108. ♔e2 ♕e1+ 109. ♔f3 ♗d2 110. ♗b3 ♕f1 111. ♖d4 ♗e1 112. ♖d1+ ♔b2 and Black gets his capture just in time. After 105...♕h6, white could have drawn without resorting to the 50-move rule, with 106. ♗d1+ ♔c1 107. ♗g4 ♕h1+ 108. ♔e2 ♕e4 109. ♖d1+ ♔c2 110. ♖g1 Black's last chance was 110...♗e5 111. ♔g2 ♕g5+ 112. ♔h3 ♕f6 113. f4 ♔xe3 (just in time again!) 114. f4xe5 ♕f3+. |
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Dec-26-11
 | | Penguincw: Looks like a blunder to me, but the 50 move rule saves the day for Ivanchuk. |
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| Dec-26-11 | | MyDogPlaysChess: Thanks to (engineerX), I have never seen the chessintranslation.com and I love reading players interviews. They are often very instructive and bring chess down from the Olumpus myths into the a more "real"/human perspective. So, thank you. I can't see myself having the nerves or stamina to play a game like this. I compare them with a 8 hours tennis match, but the brain drain is pure torment... Thanks to (sfm) and (capablancakarpov) for explaining the 50 move rules (I never care about it since I never plan on playing a game that long - I settled for a draw or defeat.) But it's good to understand the GM's who do face it the scenarios. |
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| Dec-26-11 | | MyDogPlaysChess: To (Richard Taylor), as a former boxing fan, your definition is quite correct but I want to point out the irony of the term. "Saved by the bell" most often lead to one or more rounds of punishment and even, brain damage. In extreme cases, several of the deaths on the ring have followed "saved by the bell" knockdowns. I wish that referees call for a medical review more often after many of these ingredients. The 1 minute "rest" often allows a boxer to continue beyond his physical possibilities. Specially after sniffing ammonia. Greetings. |
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Dec-26-11
 | | maxi: <rogl> The way I understand it, the conditions must not have changed during the fifty moves. Thus, if at first one side could take en passant and later it couldn't, then 51 moves are required. Same consideration goes for the castling prerogative, but then the counting to 50 begins again the moment the prerogative is lost. |
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