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Henrik Danielsen vs John Nunn
EUCup Gr2 (1999), Reykjavik, rd 2, Sep-25
Bird Opening: Dutch Variation (A03)  ·  0-1



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Mar-29-11  Lokaz: Poor Danielsen must eihter have lost on time, or I'm missing something in the final position.
Mar-29-11  MaxxLange: Yeah, looks like it. Move 39! And White can win the c-pawn
Mar-29-11  Kinghunt: How could Danielsen have lost on time when it's Nunn's move?
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  Eric Schiller: Very simple. Often the player makes the move before the arbiter notices the flag is down. Or has had time to declare the time forfeit.
Mar-29-11  Kinghunt: And that last move is still recorded as part of the official game score? I would have thought that it would have been stricken from the record as the game had been forfeited before it was played.
Mar-29-11  MaxxLange: yes, a move that was played on the board, just before an arbiter called the flag down, would be included, I think, in the "official" score. This is because the move was made on the board, and it was a legal move. THEN, just after that, the arbiter ruled that the game was lost by time forfeit.

The arbiter does not speculate about on which move the flag fell, or make a ruling about which move was the last legal move. He simply observes that, RIGHT NOW, a flag is down, before the 40th move control, and he rules that the game is over.

Mar-29-11  MaxxLange: another possibility is that Danielsenn's flag was hanging by a thread - remember, these old-timers used mechanical clocks - and, it fell when he punched the clock button, because of the mechanical shock
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  Eric Schiller: 1999, I doubt they used mechanical clocks. Modern clocks would freeze after flag fall, even if Nunn had replied.

Much less pressure on the arbiters these days!

Mar-31-11  blcknghtbong: i think on move 25 white could have place his rook on c6, eventully putting pressure by rc1,nc3,nb5 etc.
Sep-07-11  ColeTrane: my two favorite players!
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