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| Sep-10-10 | | theagenbiteofoutwit: <For those that watched the game live, was there frequently disagreement among the 3 GMs about which moves to play?> Yes, Lagrave and Polgar wanted to make logical moves, Nakamura disagreed. |
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| Sep-10-10 | | freakclub: "The World," eh? |
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| Sep-10-10 | | wordfunph: <yoozum: For those that watched the game live, was there frequently disagreement among the 3 GMs about which moves to play?> i recall there was one position when 3 GMs with different move preferences and most of the time Lagrave/Polgar with the same official moves. |
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| Sep-10-10 | | Anubis33: Yes, for a true "World", there should be no grandmaster consultants. It defeats the purpose. It's supposed to be Carlsen (or whoever) vs. a democratic vote between the Republic of Unified Patzers. :) |
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Sep-11-10
 | | adamico: I agree with <DeepFriedLiver> on most of your thoughts about this match. I found it very interesting to see where the GM's were directing their attention (I assume it was toward areas where they are most familiar or have their greatest strengths. To give an example of one of these tendencies, I recall Polgar voted probably 3 or 4 times at least between roughly moves 9 and 14 for the Ne8 move to open up the kingside with f5. I also agree that I would have liked to have seen some analysis from the GMs and Naka's Tweets every so often gave tidbits that were helpful. It was frustrating though having no sway in the decision-making. I did not like 10. Bg4 and did not vote for it, but I had no influence, nor could I ask one of the other participants more familiar with the position or a player of a higher rating than me about it. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | e4d4: Why is this GOTD? Should've been a larsen one |
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Sep-11-10
 | | Phony Benoni: This game is topical. More importantly, there is usually a delay of a day or two to prepare a proper tribute for a player like Larsen. I'd be surprised if we don't see a Larsen game tomorrow, possibly with a pun like "Larseny". |
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| Sep-11-10 | | hstevens129: I think what I like most about Carlsen is his ability to seamlessly integrate compelling tactics to support brilliant strategic play. It's really a pleasure to behold. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | Marmot PFL: The 3 GMs did not seem to consult and never decided on a coherent plan. As they suggested random King's Indian moves, often in conflict with each other the audience became more confused and switched back and forth between the 3 GMs. No surprise that they were quickly lost. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | The Rocket: A much better pun would be "the world is not enough" |
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Sep-11-10
 | | tamar: "Stop the World. I want to get off" |
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Sep-11-10
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Just a few observations on this game after spending a little time running it through Fritz. First, I would comment that I found the game itself very interesting, quite apart from the dramatic format. Given the time constraints, it is understandable that it was not flawless. As far as move choices at critical junctures are concerned, in playing <28.Nb6!?> (Possibly even 28.Nb6?! is how it should be annotated), Carlsen was “playing to the crowd”. The simple 28. g4 was a safer and objectively much better way to continue here with a solid advantage. Given the applicable time control, the move actually played by Carlsen was probably a reasonable practical choice (hence, the "!?" annotation). Carlsen was bound to handle the ensuing complications better than the consultation team, but, objectively, 28. Nb6 was dubious. After <30. … Bc8?>, the World team was lost. A great opportunity was missed here, as illustrated by these variations: <30...Bf4!> 31.Rb3 Qd8 32.Nc4 Nxd5! 33.exd5 Qh4+ 34.Ke2 Be3 35.Rc3 (35.Rxe3?! Bxc4+ 36.Kd2 Qd4+ 37.Kc2 Bd3+ 38.Kb3 Bc2+ 39.Ka3 Qxe3  ) 35...Bc5 36.Qa4 Qxh2 37.Kd1 Qxg2  . Finally, the move <42. ... Kc7> suggested by some kibitzer during the game would have been no improvement over the actual <42. ... Rc7>; for example: 42...Kc7 43.Rb7+ Kd6 44.b4 Rxa6 45.bxc5+ Ke6 (or 45...Kc6 46.Rxh7  ) 46.Rxh7 . |
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| Sep-11-10 | | Jack Kerouac: Surprise!....the World Sucks.
Or, more realistically, mediocre.
JK |
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| Sep-11-10 | | kevin86: Again,it has been proven-the world stinks!! |
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Sep-11-10
| | Peligroso Patzer: <Marmot PFL: The 3 GMs did not seem to consult and never decided on a coherent plan. *** > The feature of having final move selection determined by a vote of "The World" has a certain appeal, but in many respects a genuine consultation game (i.e., Carlsen vs. the three GMS choosing plans and moves by consultation) would have been more interesting. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | adrboliveira: 26. ...Rb7 was the world's redemption. 26. ...f4, the end!! |
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Sep-11-10
| | Peligroso Patzer: <adrboliveira: 26. ...Rb7 was the world's redemption. 26. ...f4, the end!!> But if <26. … Rb7!?>, then 27. Nb6 seems strong, for example: 26...Rb7!? 27.Nb6 axb6 28.axb6 Rxb6 29.Bxb6 Qxb6+ 30.Qf2 Qb7 31.Bf1 . |
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| Sep-11-10 | | onur87: Before match, Carslen had a big advantage. In chess, crowd is fatal. The necessity is one plan, one person.. |
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Sep-11-10
 | | fm avari viraf: It is aptly said so, "Too many Cooks spoil the broth." In such a format you count the votes & not the real brain which culminates into catastrophe! |
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| Sep-11-10 | | rapidcitychess: I missed it. I chose "The End of The World", must not be enough. |
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Sep-11-10
 | | tpstar: OO WA OO WA cool cool Kitty (1. d4 Nf6), tell us about the boy from New York City (2. c4 g6)/OO WA OO WA come on Kitty (3. Nf3 Bg7), tell us about the boy from New York City (4. g3 0-0)/He's kind of tall (5. Bg2 d6), he's really fine (6. Nc3 Nc6)/Someday I hope to make him mine all mine (7. 0-0 e5)/And he's neat (8. d5 Ne7), and oh so sweet (9. e4 c6)/And just the way he looked at me [last book move], he swept me off my feet (10. a4 Bg4)/Oo-oo-oo-wee-ee (11. a5 cxd5), you ought to come and see (12. cxd5 Qd7)/How he walks (13. Be3 Rfc8), YEAH YEAH [13 ... Rfb8 14. Qb3  ]/And how he talks (14. Qa4 Ne8), YEAH YEAH (15. Nd2 Qd8)/OO WA OO WA cool cool Kitty (16. Qb4 Nc7), tell us about the boy from New York City (17. Nc4)/He's really down [17. Qxb7? Rcb8], and he's no clown (17 ... Na6)/He has the finest penthouse I've ever seen in town (18. Qxb7 Rxc4)/And he's cute (19. Qxa6 Rb4) in his mohair suit (20. f3 Bc8)/And he keeps his pockets full of spending loot [20. Bxa7 is no comparison Nc8 21. Nb5 Nxa7 22. Nxa7 Bc8  ]/Oo-oo-oo-wee-ee (21. Qe2 f5), say you ought to come and see (22. Qd2 Ba6)/His dueling scar (23. Rfc1 Qb8), YEAH YEAH (24. Na4 Rb3)/And brand new car (25. Rc3 Rb4), YEAH YEAH (26. Rca3 f4)/Every time he says he loves me [26 ... Rb3 27. Rxb3 Qxb3 28. Nc3  ], chills run down my spine (27. Bf2)/Every time he wants to kiss me [27. gxf4 exf4 28. Bxf4 Rd4 ], oh he makes me feel so fi-i-ine (27 ... Bh6) [ ]/Oh yeah (28. Nb6), oh yeah [28. g4!? Rb3 29. Qd1 Rxa3 30. Rxa3 ]/OO WA OO WA cool cool Kitty (28 ... fxg3), tell us about the boy from New York City (29. Qxb4 gxf2+)/Oh he can dance (30. Kxf2 Bc8), and make romance [30 ... Bf4!? ]/That's when I fell in love with just one glance (31. Rb3 axb6 [ ])/He was shy (32. Qxb6 Qa7), and so was I (33. a6 Kf7)/And now I know I'll never ever say goodbye (34. Qxa7 Rxa7)/Oo-oo-oo-oo-wee-ee (35. Rb6 Ke8), say you ought to come and see (36. Rxd6 Bf8)/He's the most [36 ... Bd2 37. Rb6 Bd7 38. Rb7 ], YEAH YEAH (37. Rb6 Nxd5)/From coast to coast (38. Rb8 Bc5+), YEAH YEAH (39. Kg3 Ne7)/OO WA OO WA cool cool Kitty (40. Bh3 Kd8?!), tell us about the boy from New York City [40 ... Bd6 41. Rxc8+ Nxc8 42. Bxc8 Kd8 ]/OO WA OO WA come on Kitty (41. Bxc8 Nxc8), tell us about the boy from New York City (42. Rc1 Rc7)/OO WA OO WA cool cool Kitty (43. Rxc5!), tell us about the boy from New York City [the end]/OO WA OO WA come on Kitty (43 ... Rxc5), tell us about the boy from New York City (44. a7 1-0) - The Manhattan Transfer + Fritz 7, "Boy From New York City"Fritz suggests the BOOC endgame after 40 ... Bd6 41. Rxc8+ Nxc8 42. Bxc8 Kd8 which is still . During the game I thought 24 ... Rb3 & 25 ... Rb4 was the clearest example of wasteful one-move-at-a-time chess (the primary drawback for a World team in real time), yet 25 ... Rb4 does avoid trades while down material. A respectable game by the World, and hopefully a bonanza on the PR front. Hopes and prayers on 9/11. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | Blaise99a: Tpstar writes "During the game I thought 24 ... Rb3 & 25 ... Rb4 was the clearest example of wasteful one-move-at-a-time chess " (by the way, I'm a fan of your sing-a-long commentaries) Personally, I was fascinated by blacks Bg4 - Bc8- Ba6-Bc8 -- four moves to return to its original square after having done......what exactly? Amazing. And also classic was the Qb8 just to sit there and hem the rook on a8. - the funny thing was is that each move in and of itself might have been passibly excusable, but the entire sequence was absolutely RIDICULOUS......and educational. |
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Sep-11-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Jack> -- <The World sucks> I think it's called *gravity*. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | SirChrislov: I agree with <fm avari viraf>. 3 Chefs cooking in the same pot with their own spices is how Jpolgar put it. |
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Sep-11-10
 | | HeMateMe: Most of the players were wearing denim, jean jackets. Is that the new hot look? |
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sac: 31.Rb3