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| Jan-28-16 | | Marmot PFL: Good win by the US champ over the author of "Winning with the Dutch" |
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| Jan-28-16 | | zanzibar: A little tactical from White's 26th move:
Bang (kibitz #86) |
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| Jan-29-16 | | thegoodanarchist: I expected this game to be illustrative of the "modern" way of defeating the Dutch. Meaning, the 21st century way to do so. Instead, it just shows how a super GM wins your queen through tactical means, when you are a 2300. |
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| Jan-29-16 | | ndg2: Perhaps, winning the queen is the "modern, 21st century" way? Previously they broke through with pawns, fortified outposts and similar positional, boring stuff. |
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| Jan-29-16 | | zanzibar: <tga> walking through SCID's Tree analysis with <MillBase>, it's funny how the game bounces around different eras. After move 8...a5 it follows only this 1971 game:
L Lengyel vs Spassky, 1971
bouncing to 1990 on the next move, then later back to the modern era after 10.e3, when it follows these games: <Spassov,L--Serafimov,T (2009)>
<Markos,J--Stocek,J (2003)> 10...Kh8 puts it unique from then on.
FWIW - it starts to deviate from more mainstream Dutch at 6...d5 (23%), 7.Qc2 (15%), 7...Nc6 (9%). |
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| Jan-29-16 | | zanzibar: BTW- Nakamura handled this opening pretty well I think. By move 18 Stockfish 6 puts him up a pawn (+1.02/24) in eval. Owes c-file, good outpost on e5, x-ray of e5/king on a1-h8, no real weakness save b3 if that. 
click for larger viewWhat's not to like about Nakamura's handling of the opening? |
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| Jan-29-16 | | thegoodanarchist: <What's not to like about Nakamura's handling of the opening> Indeed. Just looked at the game again. I am very impressed. |
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| Jan-29-16 | | JoeBerylwood: What's impressive about a 27XX beating a 23XX IM with white? |
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| Jan-29-16 | | zanzibar: <JoeB> seeing as you wrote... < <WannaBe> then I don't know what Anand and Nakamura are doing there. The prizes aren't much and they don't seem to be using any interesting preparation. They aren't making any effort to squeeze out extra half-points in the endgame. If this is
their standard then they have no chance in the candidates> Tradewise Gibraltar (2016) (kibitz #33) It seems they would have to do a triple somersault, blindfolded, while making each of their moves, in order to impress. |
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Jan-31-16
 | | PawnSac: < JoeBerylwood: What's impressive about a 27XX beating a 23XX IM with white? > i think u r missing several important points here.
< Marmot PFL: Good win by the US champ over the author of "Winning with the Dutch" > We r talking about an international master and former British champion who spent
a significant amount of time, research, and personal experience in a particular
opening line. Suffice it to say he is somewhat of an expert in the Dutch system, and it would be expected that in this particular opening he would perform above the average player of the same rating who is not as prepared in this system. So when a superGM outplays him strategically in his pet line, there MUST be some special value to the contest. Therefore this game has some theoretical value to say the least. I'm sure there is something to be learned by any genuine student of the game. |
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| Feb-01-16 | | JoeBerylwood: That makes more sense. Thanks for that. |
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| Jul-20-17 | | wtpy: A good rule to follow might be when a supergrandmaster stops defending a pawn directly,it's a good time,in the words of Elmer Fudd,to be vewy,vewy careful,and not just go grab it. Because super gms can be even trickier than Bugs. |
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| Jul-20-17 | | patzer2: For today's Thursday solution I quickly got as far as the discovered attack with check combination 26.e6! Nxe6 27.Bxg7+ Kxg7 28.Qb2+ Kg8 29.Rxc5  .But after 29...Nxc5, I opted for 30. Qb4 instead of 30. Qb6. However, after 30...Nd7 31. Qxb7 it doesn't appear to make any difference. At any rate, it's a pleasure watching GM Nakamura's technique in winning this "won game." It makes the computers high assessment of the combination more understandable. P.S.: Difficult to find improvements for Black in White's expert positional dismantling of this Dutch defense. Perhaps the Stockfish 8 suggestion 13...Bh5  (+0.54 @ 28 depth) might improve Black's survival chances. |
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| Jul-20-17 | | ChessHigherCat: The two obvious plans of attack look like spoilers. e6 followed by Bxg7 to win the queen is spoiled by Nxe6. Bb4 to pin the Queen fails to QxQ. Qxf5 would clear the way for both threats but black could just play Bd6 attacking the Q and creating a pawn blockade. So let's see if there's a faster plan:
26. Qb2 Qe7 27. Bb4 wins the exchange.
26. Qb2 Qa7 27. e6 Nxe6 and this line doesn't work (drat) Super accelerated plan:
26. e6 Nxe6 27. Qb2 Qe7 28. Bc4 c5 29. Rxc5 Nxc5 30. Bxc5 Qd8 31. Bb5 Qd6 32. Bxf8 Rxf8 (tilt, time to look) |
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| Jul-20-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Damn, I overlooked the simple check'em and wreck'em tactic in the last variation with 27. Bxg7+ Kxg7 28. Qb2+. Actually I think I saw it and then got distracted which amounts to the same thing (losing) |
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| Jul-20-17 | | Checker2: Strange week. I missed Monday's puzzle completely, found Wednesday's easy and today I saw the first two moves of the solution in a flash. |
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| Jul-20-17 | | agb2002: White has the bishop pair for a bishop, a knight and a pawn. Black is about to play Ne6.
The black queen is defenseless. This suggests 26.e6, creating the double threat Bxg7+ and exf7: A) 26... Nxe6 27.Bxg7+
A.1) 27... Kxg7 28.Qb2+ wins decisive material. For example, 28... Kg8 29.Rxc5 Nxc5 30.Qb6 (30.Rc1 Nb3) 30... Ne5 31.Qxb7 + - [Q vs r+n]. A.2) 27... Nxg7 28.Qxc5 + - [Q vs n+p].
A.3) 27... Kg8 28.Qxc5 Nxc5 29.Bxf8 Nb3 (29... Kxf8 30.Rxc5 + - [R vs p]) 30.Bd6 Nxc1 31.Rxc1 + - [B vs p]. B) 26... Bxe6 27.Bxg7+ wins.
C) 26... Qe7 27.exf7 + - [2B vs n+2p]. |
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Jul-20-17
 | | Dionysius1: Material is pretty much even by 25...Nxc5, which is the end of the combination. It's pretty but is it that clever? What is it about the position at 25 that made it worth Nakamura's time to play the combo please? |
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Jul-20-17
| | Dionysius1: Sorry - last message had a move number mistake. I can't delete it, so message should read "Material is pretty much even by 29...Nxc5, which is the end of the combination. It's pretty but is it that clever? What is it about the position at 29 that made it worth Nakamura's time to play the combo please?" |
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| Jul-20-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: 26.e6 Nxe6 (26...Bxe6 runs into 27.Bxg7) 27.Qxf5 (pinning the black pieces to each other's defense), and 28.Bb4 picks up the exchange on f8. |
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| Jul-20-17 | | King Harvest: Garden variety combo there. Pawn grabbing against <Nakamura>...what could go wrong? |
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| Jul-20-17 | | Iwer Sonsch: 27...Qxa3 refutes it. |
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| Jul-20-17 | | The Kings Domain: Got the puzzle but missed the follow up 28) Qb2. Good game. |
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Jul-20-17
 | | Richard Taylor: e6 as played is the thematic move but I missed it. I was concentrating on 26. Qb2 threatening a skewer but then Qa7. So I thought that 26. Qb1 was the move as if then Qa7 17. Qxf7 threatens to win with e6 but white White has a strong advantage (according to the machine), obviously 26. e6 is "obvious" once one sees it. But 26. Qb1 also should win according to the engine. <Dionysius 1> Nakamura played it correctly (according to my engine) and it wins material and the game soon. The only minor quibble is that 30. Qb4 was slightly better, but it isn't really relevant. |
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Jul-20-17
| | Richard Taylor: Perhaps 26. Qb1 should win is a bit strong. Much more incisive and beautiful is what Nakamura played. |
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sac: 27.Bxg7+