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| Jun-16-17 | | whiteshark: Don't spoil this, Fab! |
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| Jun-16-17 | | Petrosianic: I hope he's listening to you. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | Marmot PFL: The rest is a matter of technique as the books like to say. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Black should obviously resign except that if I remember correctly from "Bridge over the River Kwai" soldiers who surrender forfeit all honor and humanity. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | technical win: It's my turn! |
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| Jun-16-17 | | vonKrolock: Resigning not allowed too?! |
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| Jun-16-17 | | beenthere240: And there's always the chance that White could lose on time! |
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| Jun-16-17 | | whiteshark: <0:58 || 0:37> It looks more likely that Nakamura let run down his time, now that he thought already 13 mins on his <54. ...> |
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| Jun-16-17 | | Gregor Fenrir: Possible continuation: 59. … ♔d8 60. h7 ♘f4+ 61. ♔f3 ♘e6 62. ♗xe6 ♔c7 63. e5 ♔b6 64. d8=♕+ ♔b5 65. h8=♕ ♔a4 66. ♕a5+ ♔xa5 67. ♕b8 ♔a4 68. ♕b4+ ♔xb4 69. ♗a2 ♔a3 70. e6 ♔b2 71. e7 ♔a1 72. e8=♕ ♔b2 73. ♕c6 ♔a1 74. ♕c1+ ♔xa2 75. ♔e2 ♔b3 76. ♔d3 ♔a2 77. ♔d4 ♔b3 78. ♕b1+ ♔a3 79. ♔c3 ♔a4 80. ♕b4# |
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Jun-16-17
 | | WannaBe: You can dance
You can jive
Having the time of your life
See that Rook
Watch that pawn
Dig in the dancing Rook
Apologies to ABBA |
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| Jun-16-17 | | beenthere240: A Najdorf poisoned pawn at its best. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | SirRuthless: I foresee players avoiding the Najdorf with e6. It's so dangerous to play that both MVL and Nakamura, plenty of experience in these lines are losing again and again on the black side of it not only to each other but to Caruana and others as well. It's going to be in the main-line KID category of openings pretty soon. You can play it, like Nak did today when a loss wont hurt your event but you must win with black. Else that it's not worth the risk. Great preparation by Fab as usual. Nak should've resigned earlier than he did but that's another issue. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | fisayo123: <SirRuthless> It was the 7. Bg5 line so avoiding e6 is kind of difficult to do. Besides, Nakamura arguably chose the "safest" line here. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | Imran Iskandar: 15. Rg1 is the novelty here, I think. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | ChessHigherCat: : By move 13. White had 5 pieces and the Q actively developed, versus only 2 black pieces and the Q in exchange for the measly pawn. Since Caruana is one of the greatest tacticians who ever lived, N probably could arguably have resigned then (if you think that's an exaggeration, look what happened), but at the latest on move 48, 10 moves before he did. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | Marmot PFL: the Poisoned Pawn variation is always a risk, for both players. Black could have tried to keep the pawn with 17...Rh7 which the site computer likes. returning the pawn is understandable and Caruana thought was a draw after 22...Rxh2 instead of the awful Ng8. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | ChessHigherCat: I know the PP variation is a trade off between material and development but just intuitively you can see by move 13 that a tactician like Caruana was going to crush his opponent in that position. C. may have been characteristically modest when he said he thought it was a draw at move 22. As far as 17...Rh7 is concerned, that's a move only a computer could like, placing the rook on the diagonal of the Q. Granted, it couldn't be exploited immediately because of the N on f6, but I'm sure C. would have figured out a way of punishing it. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | pfren: 17...Rh7 is a genuine mess after 18.Bg4! Nxg4 19.e5!
Usually analysis of such positions ends in a draw, and indeed after a little bit of work I get several lines where the chances are balanced... but admittedly it's very difficult to play these lines OTB without previous preparation. |
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Jun-16-17
 | | HeMateMe: I think black could have resigned a little sooner. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | kingfu: Imran Iskandar is right. 15.Rg1 is a new move. It might shed some new light on The Poisoned Pawn Variation. Black's lack of development and 5 Queen moves are suspect. |
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| Jun-16-17 | | Everett: <Since Caruana is one of the greatest tacticians who ever lived> By what standard, and who's on your short list? |
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| Jun-16-17 | | ChessHigherCat: I'm not going to give a doctoral dissertation defending my opinion, which is subjective to some extent like all opinions, but it's based on my observations of his games. He reminds me of Tal, whipping up fantastic combinations apparently out of the blue, totally fearless and scornful of "point values" because he has a higher vision in mind (no, I don't know the precise Cartesian coordinates of his vision). |
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| Jun-16-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Just to give one example of his tactical brilliance: Caruana vs Nakamura, 2016 |
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Jun-16-17
 | | Sally Simpson: Hi ChessHigherCat,
Not going to argue with your opinion but all of the top players are great tacticians. They have to be to be up there and survive. We rarely get to see them spread their wings like they do in this game. Games such as this are refreshing and inspiring but, sadly, not the norm at this level. (possibly a bad choice of an example, by his own admission Caruana admitted analysing and then rejecting a stronger tactical continuation.) Caruana vs Nakamura, 2016 (kibitz #5) |
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Jun-16-17
| | HeMateMe: can we use Gaussian elimination to determine who the best tactician ever, is? You would eliminate the lesser tacticians, right? does that work, here? |
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